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Irish Youtuber - cold shower punishment for 2 yr old

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  • #332
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I'm re posting your words directly
    . You are trying to twist them yourself.
    The funny thing is you repost them and then what you write underneath is NOTHING LIKE what you have reposted making it obvious.


  • #333
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    The funny thing is you repost them and then what you write underneath is NOTHING LIKE what you have reposted making it obvious.

    I'd say you're enjoying yourself.


  • #334
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Thorough this thread i was called an abuser. Someone said i should be put in a shed and beaten for hrs.

    I want an apology.

    Cold showers are not abuse.


  • #335
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,458 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    The funny thing is you repost them and then what you write underneath is NOTHING LIKE what you have reposted making it obvious.

    Perhaps you need to clarify what you meant by
    'It'seems a shame how far the law has gone now'?


  • #336
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    I'd say you're enjoying yourself.


    Yeah I dont think that family are enjoying it though do you?


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  • #337
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Perhaps you need to clarify what you meant by
    'It'seems a shame how far the law has gone now'?


    I mean parents can be charged for as much as restraining their child. For the tiniest lightest smack.

    Or giving a cold shower if it were up to you lot.


  • #338
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,721 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    LellsBells wrote: »
    Guys ....a very well known Irish YouTuber has posted a vlog this week talking about how they use COLD showers as punishment for their 2 year old child. They have since released a statement saying it was “tepid water” and the vlog has been edited to remove the content. Luckily the clip is still available online, along with other videos where their older daughter talks about giving her doll a cold shower because she was bold!

    I can’t believe that YouTube and the Irish media are doing nothing about it! In fact, anyone that has mentioned it on Instagram has received legal letters telling them not to mention it!

    What are your thoughts on this?

    There’s a term for that. It’s called Child Abuse.


  • #339
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭nthclare


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Thorough this thread i was called an abuser. Someone said i should be put in a shed and beaten for hrs.

    I want an apology.

    Cold showers are not abuse.

    Putting some one who's not emotionally developed enough to understand right from wrong into a cold shower as punishment isn't exactly good now is it.

    So I'm of the understanding that you're totally aloof to this kind of treatment of say toddlers is not abusive......

    Make up your own mind as to what I think of your response to the situation...

    Because if I was to post it here I'd probably get carded.......


  • #340
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    He is adjunct professor of psychology of UCD.
    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Its the advice from an adjunct professor of psychology in UCD
    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    It was a child psychologist who gave the advise.
    Dr John Sharry adjunct professor of UCD.
    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    He is a professor of child psychology. And a parent.
    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    An adjunct professor of child psychology dr john sharry wrote an article
    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    But it was Dr John Sharry adjunct professor of psychology in UCD.

    We heard you the first time


  • #341
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    tayto lover wrote: »
    There’s a term for that. It’s called Child Abuse.
    No not according to this child psychologist Dr John Sharry from UCD. He is non tenure faculty member. (to be very specific)

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/parenting/at-night-my-son-smears-poo-on-himself-and-his-bed-1.3418237?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Flife-and-style%2Fhealth-family%2Fparenting%2Fat-night-my-son-smears-poo-on-himself-and-his-bed-1.3418237
    For example, if when he smears he gets a warm bubble bath and lots of lovely attention from you, then he is getting rewarded by the cleaning. Some parents recommend giving their children a cold shower after the smearing so the cleaning is uncomfortable for the child.
    .
    it is important to make sure the cleaning process is at least neutral and possibly mildly unpleasant (eg so the child associates cold water with smearing and thus is motivated to avoid the behaviour in the future)."


    You can't just go around accusing people of abuse.

    Child abuse is a crime.


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  • #342
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    I want an apology.

    Cold showers are not abuse.

    but you have said that slapping a child is fine, so no apologies here!!


  • #343
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    nthclare wrote: »
    Putting some one who's not emotionally developed enough to understand right from wrong into a cold shower as punishment isn't exactly good now is it.

    So I'm of the understanding that you're totally aloof to this kind of treatment of say toddlers is not abusive......

    Make up your own mind as to what I think of your response to the situation...

    Because if I was to post it here I'd probably get carded.......


    Its not me who is saying it. Its a child psychologist who also is a parent.

    He is also a SOCIAL WORKER

    https://www.solutiontalk.ie/about/

    His name is Dr John Sharry.


  • #344
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    bubblypop wrote: »
    but you have said that slapping a child is fine, so no apologies here!!
    Its not legal. That is that.

    You would be arrested.

    If it weren't illegal a very light smack I would have no issue with.


  • #345
    tedpan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭tedpan


    retro:electro wrote: »
    We heard you the first time


    This guy never stops trolling...


  • #346
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    tedpan wrote: »
    This guy never stops trolling...


    I am not trolling.

    But the OP of this thread was.


  • #347
    wench
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭wench


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    it is important to make sure the cleaning process is at least neutral and possibly mildly unpleasant
    His very words. It should be at least mildly unpleasant.
    If you're going to claim it was "his very words", it would behoove you not to drop the three words in the middle, completely changing the meaning.

    He said it should be "at least neutral", not at least mildly unpleasant.


  • #348
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,721 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    No not according to this child psychologist Dr John Sharry from UCD. He is non tenure faculty member. (to be very specific)

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/parenting/at-night-my-son-smears-poo-on-himself-and-his-bed-1.3418237?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Flife-and-style%2Fhealth-family%2Fparenting%2Fat-night-my-son-smears-poo-on-himself-and-his-bed-1.3418237

    .



    You can't just go around accusing people of abuse.

    Child abuse is a crime.

    Putting a two year old child into a cold shower is child abuse.


  • #349
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Well someone should call Tusla and tell them one of their social workers suggested abuse in an Irish times article.


  • #350
    Xcellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    What are valid forms of punishment these days?


  • #351
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    If it weren't illegal a very light smack I would have no issue with.

    well, you would be wrong, it is never OK to use violence against a helpless baby/child.


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  • #352
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Putting a two year old child into a cold shower is child abuse.
    Not according to a Dr of child psychology in UCD who is also a social worker and a parent.


  • #353
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    What was that doctors name again?


  • #354
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    bubblypop wrote: »
    well, you would be wrong, it is never OK to use violence against a helpless baby/child.

    Well you can't even restrain them now. It would be illegal. So you don't worry.


  • #355
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    What was that doctors name again?
    John Sharry.


  • #356
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,721 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Not according to a Dr of child psychology in UCD who is also a social worker and a parent.

    He’s wrong and shouldn’t be in that job so.


  • #357
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    tayto lover wrote: »
    He’s wrong and shouldn’t be in that job so.
    He is on twitter you can ask him if you like.


  • #358
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,458 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Well you can't even restrain them now. It would be illegal. So you don't worry.

    Of course you can restrain children. You just can't use violence or the threat of violence to do so.


  • #359
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Of course you can restrain children. You just can't use violence or the threat of violence to do so.
    No you can't. You could charged.


  • #360
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    John Sharry.

    Of UCD


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  • #361
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    John Sharry.

    And he's a parent and a social worker?


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