Irish Youtuber - cold shower punishment for 2 yr old

italodisco · 19-08-2019 10:53AM

Anyone who thinks physical punishment of a 2 yr old is okay needs to be dragged off into a shed late at night and beaten for hours and i for one volunteer for the role

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 10:53AM

Sardonicat wrote: »

You might want to think about that.

They grew out of it. Perfectly normal happy kids.

Both boys though.

Sittingpretty · 19-08-2019 10:53AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I dont have any.

What would YOU have done if your daughter repeatedly took her nappy off and smeared poop? There is nothing else wrong with her?

How would make her know its not ok and correct her?

Oh you don’t have any children? Yet here you are pontificating to people who have children what is and isn’t correct in terms of parenting and punishment.

Dismount your high horse love, I’m done.

Sardonicat · 19-08-2019 10:54AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

But I am not expert.

REALLY.?

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 10:54AM

italodisco wrote: »

Anyone who thinks physical punishment of a 2 yr old is okay needs to be dragged off into a shed late at night and beaten for hours and i for one volunteer for the role

You are saying i should be beaten for hrs?

Sardonicat · 19-08-2019 10:55AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

They grew out of it. Perfectly normal happy kids.

Both boys though.

Imagine that. They grew out of it. Without being punished.

You're talking out if so many sides if your mouth at once I'm surprised your head hasn't turned inside out.

munster87 · 19-08-2019 10:56AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

A lot of the ones i used to babysit yes.

And again no I never slapped them or put them in cold showers and they stopped it.

All kids go through the poo smearing stage. Or well a lot do.

I didnt of course.

I think its considered pica only after a certain age. But I am not expert.

Sorry, I thought you had extensive experience the way you are talking on here. Babysitting? Is that it?

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 10:56AM

OSI wrote: »

Victims of abuse will often try to rationalise it as normal behaviour, especially when they see it happening elsewhere.

I was not a victim of abuse.

My mother and father are not abusers to say otherwise is slander.

No meant no. Punishments were not threats they were deeds.

I felt loved safe and secure.

shesty · 19-08-2019 10:56AM

If you know anything about two year olds, you know this is not ok.

A cool shower or bath is one thing, either due to speed, lack of hot water at that instant or the child being hot.Whatever.

Deliberately spraying a child with cold/cool/lukewarm,whatever, water to try and discourage some sort of behaviour is all manners of wrong and more importantly achieves...nothing.

And then to go and put it on the internet....jesus wept.Not that smart at all.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 10:58AM

munster87 wrote: »

Sorry, I thought you had extensive experience the way you are talking on here. Babysitting? Is that it?

Very little beyond that tbh.

sbsquarepants · 19-08-2019 10:59AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

That isn't what happened for the last time.

She was put in the shower because she had covered herself in poo so they had to wash her.

She likes hot showers ...she was beginning to do it simply to get up out of bed during the night to get one. This went on for months.

So the next time they washed her they gave her a luke warm shower.

And i don't think putting a toddler in a cold shower would kill anyone.

Went on for months? What a pile of shíte (forgive the pun)

She's 2 years old - how many months could this realistically be going on for? Put some clothes that she can't open on her ffs, don't hose her down with cold water like she's in fúcking long kesh!

And "it won't kill them" is probably not the best parenting yardstick by the way. Anyone who puts a toddler in a cold shower as punishment is a scumbag, plain and simple - and if that's what your mother done, then that's what your mother is! Putting a properly dressed child outside for a nap is not the same thing as hosing them down with cold water, they aren't in any way comparable.

sbsquarepants · 19-08-2019 11:03AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

All kids go through the poo smearing stage. Or well a lot do.

.

I have never heard of any kid that done that.

I would imagine it's extremely unusual.

Sardonicat · 19-08-2019 11:04AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Very little beyond that tbh.

Yet here you are, lecturing everyone on how to deal with continence issues in small children.

SusieBlue · 19-08-2019 11:04AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Very little beyond that tbh.

I mean this in the nicest way possible, you need to stop posting your very limited personal experiences as fact.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 11:05AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Went on for months? What a pile of shíte (forgive the pun)

She apparently has been talking about it in videos for months.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 11:06AM

SusieBlue wrote: »

I mean this in the nicest way possible, you need to stop posting your very limited personal experiences as fact.

I have to admit i have limited experience with children.

I am not going to pretend otherwise.

SusieBlue · 19-08-2019 11:09AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I have never heard of any kid that done that.

I would imagine it's extremely unusual.

Its very unusual, it typically only occurs with children who are on the spectrum or who have sensory issues.
Its considered by medical professionals to be a psychological issue and an eating disorder. Definitely not something that should be ignored or that they can "grow out of".

Mam of 4 · 19-08-2019 11:09AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

She apparently has been talking about it in videos for months.

Am not getting into this to and fro with you but I have a few questions.

How can you state as fact , that the child in question "has no sensory issues" ?
How do you know that ?
Do you think all sensory issues are diagnosed before the age of two ?

italodisco · 19-08-2019 11:10AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

You are saying i should be beaten for hrs?

If you think its okay to abuse and cause physical or mental suffering to a 2 year old then yes, kicked around and your children taken off you for their own safety.

Juat look at that eastern european couple who are in the courts here at present for abusing their daughter, think shes 9 yrs old.

Willing to bet they'll say 'oh my daddy did that to us geowing up, in mother russia this very good way to teach child'.

Blah blah blah

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 11:12AM

italodisco wrote: »

If you think its okay to abuse and cause physical or mental suffering to a 2 year old then yes, kicked around and your children taken off you for their own safety.

Kicked around I see.

I am too young to have kids just yet.

italodisco · 19-08-2019 11:15AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Kicked around I see.

I am too young to have kids just yet.

Dont have any please

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 11:16AM

italodisco wrote: »

Dont have any please

I fully intend to.

Lackadaisical · 19-08-2019 11:20AM

I really cannot understand how anyone could possibly think this is in anyway acceptable.

I’m not a parent but I grew up with siblings and cousins who were a lot younger than me and I’ve a 4 year old niece and I just can’t even comprehend how a conflicted situation could even occur with a 2 year old or any kid tbh. The psychological damage that would do either is potentially enormous too.

At two years old kids are completely trusting of their parents and other care givers and the world is very much taken as literal. Someone breaking that trust would be turning their world upside down and causing serious trauma.

Everything in any experience of child rearing in my family anyway is about positive reinforcement, actually explaining how the world works and trying to instill a sense of empathy and ability to think about things from other people’s perspectives. I can’t ever understand how anyone ends up in conflict with a toddler. It makes no sense. Your job is to protect, support and nurture and ensure they’ve a safe, loving environment.

Parenting / child rearing courses should be mandatory in school and to be honest I think Ireland (and a lot of anglophone countries) have a huge issue with a legacy of brutality towards children both from parents and the historically from the education system and it has never really been tackled in terms of equipping adults with the psychological skills needed to actually understand and interact with kids.

Sometimes I think it explains why an element of society continues to have issues with responding to all challenges by lashing out with violence - that’s what they’ve been taught to do.

italodisco · 19-08-2019 11:22AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I fully intend to.

I sincerely hope your partner will see what you are like and not leave you alone with them.

Or alternatively a neighbor will report you to tusla and the ispcc .

You are not fit to parent. Not in the slightest.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 11:24AM

italodisco wrote: »

I sincerely hope your partner will see what you are like and not leave you alone with them.

Or alternatively a neighbor will report you to tusla and the ispcc .

You are not fit to parent. Not in the slightest.

Why because I said if it were legal i would not be against lightly smacking a child?

Because I said I would like my child to nap outdoors? I would like to bring her/him to ice baths?

Wow that is some totalitarian state there.

givyjoe · 19-08-2019 11:24AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Is it an awful thing to do?

Nothing wrong with it. Maybe thrown in some water boarding when they really step out of line.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 11:26AM

givyjoe wrote: »

Nothing wrong with it. Maybe thrown in some water boarding when they really step out of line.

They really have been water boarding their children haven't they???

italodisco · 19-08-2019 11:26AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Why because I said if it were legal i would not be against lightly smacking a child?

Because I said I would like my child to nap outdoors? I would like to bring her/him to ice baths?

Wow that is some totalitarian state there.

I'm not going to keep feed this sick fok, you go bring your child to the ice baths and slap them while your at it. Well done.

I'm done with this mongrel.

Mod: Banned

the beer revolu · 19-08-2019 11:27AM

italodisco wrote: »

I sincerely hope your partner will see what you are like and not leave you alone with them.

Or alternatively a neighbor will report you to tusla and the ispcc .

You are not fit to parent. Not in the slightest.

Someone who suggests dragging someone into a shed and beating them for hours because of views they hold, is severely lacking a moral compass, in my view.
I sincerely hope that you don't have or will never have children.

BTW I disagree with everything ILTVOY has said in this thread.

Sittingpretty · 19-08-2019 11:35AM

Lackadaisical wrote: »

I really cannot understand how anyone could possibly think this is in anyway acceptable.

I’m not a parent but I grew up with siblings and cousins who were a lot younger than me and I’ve a 4 year old niece and I just can’t even comprehend how a conflicted situation could even occur with a 2 year old or any kid tbh. Thw psychological damage that would do either is potentially enormous too.

At two years old kids are completely trusting of their parents and other care givers and the world is very much taken as literal. Someone breaking that trust would be turning their world upside down and causing serious trauma.

Everything in any experience of child rearing in my family anyway is about positive reinforcement, actually explaining how the world works and trying to instill a sense of empathy and ability to think about things from other people’s perspectives. I can’t ever understand how anyone ends up in conflict with a toddler. It makes no sense. Your job is to protect, support and nurture and ensure they’ve a safe, loving environment.

Parenting / child rearing courses should be mandatory in school and to be honest I think Ireland (and a lot of anglophone countries) have a huge issue with a legacy of brutality towards children both from parents and the historically from the education system and it has never really been tackled in terms of equipping adults with the psychological skills needed to actually understand and interact with kids.

Sometimes I think it explains why an element of society continues to have issues with responding to all challenges by lashing out with violence - that’s what they’ve been taught to do.

Trust me, as a parent of small children, it is VERY easy to get into conflict with them. They will test your very last nerve and drive you to the very verge of your sanity. However it is all about how you react to that. Putting them
In a cold shower is a failure as a parent. Walking away, taking a deep breath and dealing with it rationally, kindly and with the understanding that they are learning and don’t understand how life works yet is proper parenting.

This admission by this family doesn’t surprise me in the slightest.

Irish Youtuber - cold shower punishment for 2 yr old

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