All-Ireland SFC Final 2019.- Dublin V Kerry - Read Mod Note in Post #1

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

I think the hysteria after the Mayo game has been OTT personally. They beat an ageing and injury ravaged team well. Most of us thought Dublin would win and that there was a good chance of a rout given the issues Mayo had. So it transpired. Kerry hammered mayo a few weeks before that, albeit they were probably in worse shape at the time.

I understand why everyone thinks Kerry can not win. It would be one of the greatest shocks in a final in many years. The beauty of sport is that anything can happen though. If Kerry can get a couple of goals who knows. I have been impressed with their conditioning this year and I don’t think they will wilt in the closing stages as many of Dublin’s opponents do.

The most likely outcome is a Dublin win of course, but Kerry might do better than a lot of people think

I hope it’s a close match for the sake of the game but these guys are imo unstoppable, they are like the all blacks in their prime, the second half against mayo was scary, I don’t think anybody will touch them for a good number of years because of the depth of talent they have compared to everyone else, I hope kerry put it up to them but can’t see it.

Seadin wrote: »

I expect Kerry to get a lucky goal to beat Dublin and i expect Kerry to do something that no one expected and beat the Dubs who i think are beatable.

Dont know where all this confidence from some posters here saying it be a 10+ point win for Dublin. People thinking like that are in for a real reality check when Kerry come to croke park to stop a Dublin team going for a 5 in a row. Kerry are so dangerous when no body gives them hope. I beat you if Dublin win they will earn it thats for sure. It isnt a foregone conclusion. Dublin havent hammered any team in a final looking back the last few years.

Usually I'd agree, but I don't think that Dublin team are going to be caught unawares by anything or anyone hiding in the long grass as it were. The only way to beat them is to do something that they won't have prepared for and try to unsettle the system they have in place, but I think at this stage they're prepared for every possible scenario that could play out. It's very difficult to rattle them as they can play any way you like and the level of preparation done in the lead up to games is so thorough that really nothing is left to chance. Mayo used to get under their skin in the past by creating chaos and drawing them into a dogfight and physical battles where you nearly lost a sense of who was supposed to be marking who. It only works if you can sustain it for 70 minutes and make sure you keep the scoreboard ticking over on your own end. Kerry have the forwards to do that much, especially in one on one situations, but I don't if they will have the physicality to win all their individual battles all over the field over 70+ minutes and when Dublin run the bench.

I also think it's naive to think that Dublin won't have some plan to stifle the Kerry forward line. I think they will still get a decent score up as forwards of that quality will still get their scores, but I don't see them having the run of the place, while down the other end, I think Con and Mannion could potentially cause mayhem there for Morley & friends.

Kerry will learn from the Tyrone first half and will beat Dublin. Mark my words.

BonnieSituation wrote: »

They won't

Jayus, I wish I was as confident.

Fecking Clifford running around like he is on air, kicking points from mad angles with his Kingdom quiff

I suppose you just stop the ball getting to him.
No point in trying to stop him when he has the ball.
I think Howard could drop back and shadow him help out cooper when required.

I see its the usual again the diehard Dubs are hyping up Kerry while realists wonder if it'll be a 10+ point winning margin for Dublin again?

This game will be over at half time . Mannion and con o Callaghan will have field day against them backs. It’s quiet simple ask yourself how many of that Kerry team gets on dubs team . I’m serious when I say there’s a fair few of them wouldn’t get on Dublin bench . The only people giving Kerry a chance are the cute dubs on here and Jim Gavin !! .

I'm sure Kerry will put it up to them for a while (many teams actually do with Dublin for the first half at least) but they will be ground down eventually. I would expect the result to not be in doubt from 10 to 15 minutes out as I expect Dublin will plunder a few goals as the game opens up.

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Have my doubts about that. Donegal were so successful partly because nobody had a clue how to play against their system at the time. Everyone has played against a version of it multiples of times now.

It wasn`t simply the defensive system Donegal played that beat Dublin in 2014. It was a weakness in Dublin`s on system that they identified and exploited.

Deleted User wrote: »

Kerrys big problem will be getting the ball into the Kerry Forwards. Its why they lost the league final, no service. They have to win midfield which i can't see happening against Dublin, it worked against Mayo in the championship because they had no fit starting midfielders.

The Kerry kickout will be pressurized with the high potential of goals from any miskicks. Moran as good as he is will be crowded and jostled in midfield.
For Dublin Cluxton kicks out so quickly and accurately there is almost always someone free, if not going long the lads in midfield will normally scoop it up.

Tommy Walshs athleticism will be very important to retain any ball in the forward line, but i think his aggressiveness and at times stupid tackling will not be allowed against Dublin in a final. I would not be surprised to see him pick up two yellows or a black. Also against Dublin i can't see Clifford getting some of the easy frees he has been getting against other opposition.

There will probably be 4 times more Dubs than Kerry supporters at the game, so massive pressure on the referee to give hometown decisions.

Maybe you could say Kerry didnt win the midfield in the league final because Kerry didnt have their first choice midfield available. Seen as that was the reason that Mayo lost the midfield battle in Killarney.:rolleyes:

Mokuba wrote: »

FYI, Paddy Power have Dublin -10 at 3/1. They have Kerry just to win the game at 9/2. Dublin -10 is considered more likely to happen than Kerry just winning at all.

Codding yourself if you expect this to be a contest. I'll happily back Dublin -10.

There's nowhere i can find that has Dublin at 3/1 -10 spread. Was that a promotional bet?

Prestonites wrote: »

Dublin wont win it covering 10 point spread

Yeah I think guy was talking abiut a promo bet

All the funnier when Kerry win

Deleted User wrote: »

Kerrys big problem will be getting the ball into the Kerry Forwards. Its why they lost the league final, no service. They have to win midfield which i can't see happening against Dublin, it worked against Mayo in the championship because they had no fit starting midfielders.

The Kerry kickout will be pressurized with the high potential of goals from any miskicks. Moran as good as he is will be crowded and jostled in midfield.
For Dublin Cluxton kicks out so quickly and accurately there is almost always someone free, if not going long the lads in midfield will normally scoop it up.

Tommy Walshs athleticism will be very important to retain any ball in the forward line, but i think his aggressiveness and at times stupid tackling will not be allowed against Dublin in a final. I would not be surprised to see him pick up two yellows or a black. Also against Dublin i can't see Clifford getting some of the easy frees he has been getting against other opposition.

There will probably be 4 times more Dubs than Kerry supporters at the game, so massive pressure on the referee to give hometown decisions.

One of the reasons, another reason why Kerry lost the league final was because of 3-11 conceded and they were wide open in defence for all 3 goals.


73 mins played Mayo 2-11 Kerry 2-10 and this was the "defending" for the goal that sealed the league title for Mayo.