Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

914 wrote: »

Is he not with Dunhill now?

Dunhill...no disrespect to them but it's not exactly a launch pad for a coach with ambitions to be managing a side challenging for senior All Irelands.

He either doesn't want to put in the work to get to the next level or bigger teams don't want him.

914 wrote: »

So if he was to get Dunhill back senior and be competitive at senior level would that not be a greater success that lets say managing Ballygunner for a year and winning a county title?

The aim of Waterford is to win an All Ireland and he haven't done that since 1959 with managers who have had prior senior experience so why not try something different.

With the names being mentioned do you see us winning an All Ireland in 2-3 years?

If he won an intermediate with Dunhill and got them competitive at senior level, he'd certainly be a stronger candidate than he is now. But none of that has happened yet.

hardybuck wrote: »

If Sean Power genuinely wanted the job, or was suitable for the job, he'd have gone off and cut his teeth at senior level. That could have been in a good senior club side, or in another county setup.

To my knowledge he hasn't done that, and until he does he shouldn't come into consideration.

John Kiely by the way had prior experience at senior intercounty level, both as a coach and as a player, before taking the Limerick role.

That’s your subjective opinion. There’s no set criteria for intercounty management, sometimes it’s about being in the right place at the right time. I beleive Sean Power was better set up for this job than Fanning was. He was just finished his second year with the u21s, he knew all the young lads well, had unprecedented success with them, and he is respected. For whatever reason he wasn’t even considered. would he have done any worse than Fanning? No way

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Did Power have 3 years with the 21s? 2016-2018?

Sheedy won 2 minor all Irelands with Tipp if I remember correctly, but if you'd asked the players on those teams going to Senior they would have said they'd have him over anyone else. Now, if we're led to believe player power is so prevalent in Waterford then surely if the players had the same opinion of Power he'd be in charge already?

I think Queally should be involved anyway, if not as manager as a selector at least.

Two years after winning a National League as a player Sheedy managed the Tipp intermediates who won a Munster title. Then he served as a senior selector, then got the minors and won a minor All Ireland.

But yes, a compelling point about player power.

Queally is the man. Bonner heading back to Carlow I’d say.

Cornerstoner wrote: »

Bonnar now 5/4 but Queally is in to 6/4 all of a sudden with PP

from 9/1 someone must know something

upthedeise16 wrote: »

The betting situation is actually mad, wouldn’t at all surprise me if our county board chairman would know the inside dealings and have a bet on it. Potentially the person who is going to get the job could do the same and just get someone to put on the bet for him. Could actually be a great way for the county board to fundraiser, threw a few thousand on the man due to get the job!

New manager every year!

We would have a new stadium in no time

Queally has come into the equation because Dan wants him as manager and himself as the coach.

upthedeise16 wrote: »

The betting situation is actually mad, wouldn’t at all surprise me if our county board chairman would know the inside dealings and have a bet on it. Potentially the person who is going to get the job could do the same and just get someone to put on the bet for him. Could actually be a great way for the county board to fundraiser, threw a few thousand on the man due to get the job!

Jesus Christ, does anyone on this thread have a clue what they're talking about?

Put €50 on any candidate on the list and watch the price collapse. Try and put €1000 on and they'll suspend the market and close your account.

Heard Ken McGrath during the week saying its all well and good blaming the managers but the players are the ones who've received little if any blame over the last two years. Ken seemed to be saying that the buck stops with the 15 players that cross the line and for Watetford the players have been very poor in Munster last two years. From the outside looking in, it doesn't look like the talent is there. For starters the forwards ate miles off the likes off Tipp. Hope they sort it out as Waterford are great to watch when in full flow .

People are rewriting history just a little I think. 2018 the team were within a point of cork, beat Tipp other than the ghost goal and had a stupid amount of injuries after the Clare game going into the Limerick game.

I'm not saying the buck doesn't stop with them but to compare the attitude of the 2018 team to the 2019 team is unfair. The probls of 2019 are more than just player attitude and Ken should know better as he played through the turmoil of the collapse of Justin and the appointment of Davy. The buck certainly didn't stop with the players in 08, it stopped with Justin as I recall.

I'm not in anyway defending the performance or attitude of our players or managers but I think Ken isn't adding anything new to the discussion. Nobody is deluding themselves in thinking that all we need is a new manager but that has to be the first step which is why everyone is focused on it.

To be fair, who ever manages the county is short a forward line.

Brick Walsh single handedly held together the forward line best he could and now hes not there we're e ****ed.

None of our current forwards pick bar Maurice Shanahan have lit up the place in the past.

Are there forwards hiding somewhere?

Mulbert wrote: »

To be fair, who ever manages the county is short a forward line.

Brick Walsh single handedly held together the forward line best he could and now hes not there we're e ****ed.

None of our current forwards pick bar Maurice Shanahan have lit up the place in the past.

Are there forwards hiding somewhere?

****ing hell hahaha