Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

Relhcstirt

Quelly & Dan. Is that possible!!

deiseach

Deise Gael wrote: »

I remember when he was appointed as Waterford manager a former class mate of his in De La Salle saying to me may God help Waterford hurling because this guy is a complete egomaniac and we'll never be able to get rid of him.

Gardner

deiseach wrote: »

Hahah spot on!

Some spoofers on this page!

freedominacup

EYEBALLSOUT wrote: »

Its disappointing, I know but sadly, Waterford GAA is toxic at the moment.

Really?? The entirety of Waterford GAA is toxic atm? Would people ever get a grip? There's very little toxic in Waterford GAA at the moment. A lot of people doing great work every day and seeing the results.

There is an inordinate amount of sh1te posted about one small element of the association in the county by people who refer to "them" and what "they" should do instead of "we" and "us" and what we need to do. Hackles raised immediately when they are asked what they have done lately to help the association beyond buy a few tickets for inter county matches because the answer is they've done f'all.

rebel girl 15

Can the backseat moderators please report posts as opposed to moderating and saying what should and shouldn’t be allowed - we don’t necessarily read every post but we get instant notification if a post is reported. If we’ve missed any in this thread please report then and we’ll look at them

Just a reminder - we do not tolerate personal abuse of players, management or officials. Discussion fine but it was over the line

Cornerstoner

Cornerstoner wrote: »

Bonnar now 5/4 but Queally is in to 6/4 all of a sudden with PP

Both joint favs now at 5/4. Surprisingly DMG is 12/1 even after all of his recent interviews saying everything but he wants the job again...

hardybuck

Cornerstoner wrote: »

Both joint favs now at 5/4. Surprisingly DMG is 12/1 even after all of his recent interviews saying everything but he wants the job again...

Careful now, his exact words were, "I'm not saying that I'm disinterested or interested. I suppose I'm not saying I'd be willing or unwilling to talk to them, but we'll see what happens..."

What part of that isn't clear to you!?

thesaturdayman

Cornerstoner wrote: »

Both joint favs now at 5/4. Surprisingly DMG is 12/1 even after all of his recent interviews saying everything but he wants the job again...

queally even money from 9/1opening show.... he was 5/4 45 minutes ago!

Cornerstoner

hardybuck wrote: »

Careful now, his exact words were, "I'm not saying that I'm disinterested or interested. I suppose I'm not saying I'd be willing or unwilling to talk to them, but we'll see what happens..."

What part of that isn't clear to you!?

I thought I might be able to understand it given that I've got a 3rd level degree, maybe I need to do a Masters?

hardybuck

Cornerstoner wrote: »

I thought I might be able to understand it given that I've got a 3rd level degree, maybe I need to do a Masters?

I have a Masters, and unless anyone with a PhD wants to weigh in, I declare it to be a nonsensical ramble.

Stopitwillya

hardybuck wrote: »

Cornerstoner wrote: »

Both joint favs now at 5/4. Surprisingly DMG is 12/1 even after all of his recent interviews saying everything but he wants the job again...

Careful now, his exact words were, "I'm not saying that I'm disinterested or interested. I suppose I'm not saying I'd be willing or unwilling to talk to them, but we'll see what happens..."

What part of that isn't clear to you!?

These interviews are being used to send a message to the players. He says he is 50/50, a bit like Davy last year with Wexford. However if a bus load of players were to suddenly arrive at my house then I'd be definetly interested.
If I don't go for the job I will take it in a year or two, when the kid is finished the junior cert.

It comes across as if he believes he has a divine right to the job.

TheScoringGoal

Stopitwillya wrote: »

These interviews are being used to send a message to the players. He says he is 50/50, a bit like Davy last year with Wexford. However if a bus load of players were to suddenly arrive at my house then I'd be definetly interested.
If I don't go for the job I will take it in a year or two, when the kid is finished the junior cert.

It comes across as if he believes he has a divine right to the job.

Or he's undecided if he wants the job or not.

hardybuck

TheScoringGoal wrote: »

Or he's undecided if he wants the job or not.

Well an answer like "I'm not sure. I've been on holidays, and I haven't really thought about it", would have been a far more appropriate response.

It's not as if he went on one interview and rambled, he went on at least three that I've seen.

PTH2009

Quelly with Dan would be decent but we have to look at quellys disaster as under 21 manager in 2014 which we were beaten by a bad Cork team and we had quite a good team that year at that grade.

He won a county with Passage and got Abbeyside to a final. Did he win a county with Ballygunner ???

Stopitwillya

PTH2009 wrote: »

Quelly with Dan would be decent but we have to look at quellys disaster as under 21 manager in 2014 which we were beaten by a bad Cork team and we had quite a good team that year at that grade.

He won a county with Passage and got Abbeyside to a final. Did he win a county with Ballygunner ???

That under 21 team was a good team and should have won easily
He was never with Ballygunner. Was with rower inistigoe in Kilkenny and they went backwards under him.
He was also with Youghal in Cork and despite not winning silverware with them apparently done an excellent job.

mountgomery burns

Stopitwillya wrote: »

That under 21 team was a good team and should have won easily
He was never with Ballygunner. Was with rower inistigoe in Kilkenny and they went backwards under him.
He was also with Youghal in Cork and despite not winning silverware with them apparently done an excellent job.

Youghal won the intermediate under him did they not?

That 21 team was very green, they were unlucky not to beat Clare the previous year who went onto win the all Ireland. Hard to judge a fella on straight knockout, same with Hartley and the 21 teams of 2011/2012.

hardybuck

PTH2009 wrote: »

Quelly with Dan would be decent but we have to look at quellys disaster as under 21 manager in 2014 which we were beaten by a bad Cork team and we had quite a good team that year at that grade.

He won a county with Passage and got Abbeyside to a final. Did he win a county with Ballygunner ???

Eddie Brennan, while obviously still not a top manager yet, has spoken about how his disastrous time as Kilkenny U21 manager helped improved him as a manager.

TheScoringGoal

Stopitwillya wrote: »

That under 21 team was a good team and should have won easily
He was never with Ballygunner. Was with rower inistigoe in Kilkenny and they went backwards under him.
He was also with Youghal in Cork and despite not winning silverware with them apparently done an excellent job.

He was Ballygunner manager in 2007 and 2008.

Mastermcgrath

Stopitwillya wrote: »

It comes across as if he believes he has a divine right to the job.

He’s been at it since his first interview after he stepped aside he was talking about coming back again some day. something along the lines of; ‘I might decide back in a few years when the likes of Austin Gleeson and TDB are 27 or 8 and in their prime’ I thought it was an utterly bizarre statement to make at the time. Like that they’re not ready to win an AI for 3 or 4 years so I’ll step back and let someone else have them until then. 12 months down the line he’s still rambling on about it. In his own head it’s not over

Stopitwillya

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Youghal won the intermediate under him did they not?
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After he was gone but he gets alot of credit for the job he done down there. I think former GAA president Christy cooney was the manager when they won the intermediate.

blueflame

While Queally was in charge the night of the U-21 defeat against Cork in Walsh Park, was that not the same night that our Senior Panelists had separate bottles of drink left out for them in the dressing room and our Senior Manager at the time was waiting on a bus outside the ground after the game to bring them to wade in the sea to aid their recovery - not that I am insinuating that those kind of actions would be seen as interfering in team preparation or moral or anything like that!!!

Queally as I would see it would be an honest grafter with the good of Waterford Hurling at heart, but unfortunately I have to be honest and say I feel he would be much in the same mould as Paraic Fanning and would face the same problems that he faced with plenty of outside interference.

As regards Derek's interest in returning to the fold, not one bit surprised. The conspiracy theorist in me feels that this sparks of "i'll take a break, let or indeed help the new guy fall flat on his face so that I am proven right in my approach and i can return free to continue my journey to well-being"

As regards the County Board, I heard that they have gone and decided that the Senior Quarter Finals are going to be played on Saturday 31st August - the same day that the Tony Forristal is being played, so looks like there will be no Tony Forristal Finals for Walsh Park this year. One day in the year when underage players, parents and club people are playing or involved not only in Tony Forristal but in the other underage tournaments around the country and we arrange a full list of senior fixtures ? - so much for wanting to promote hurling in Waterford - do you think this would happen in Kilkenny - what a joke

hardybuck

Is there any news on Walsh Park redevelopment?

PTH2009

hardybuck wrote: »

Is there any news on Walsh Park redevelopment?

Apparently waiting on money to go through

Faracial at this stage. The place should be knocked by now

Road-Hog

blueflame wrote: »

While Queally was in charge the night of the U-21 defeat against Cork in Walsh Park, was that not the same night that our Senior Panelists had separate bottles of drink left out for them in the dressing room and our Senior Manager at the time was waiting on a bus outside the ground after the game to bring them to wade in the sea to aid their recovery - not that I am insinuating that those kind of actions would be seen as interfering in team preparation or moral or anything like that!!!

Queally as I would see it would be an honest grafter with the good of Waterford Hurling at heart, but unfortunately I have to be honest and say I feel he would be much in the same mould as Paraic Fanning and would face the same problems that he faced with plenty of outside interference.

As regards Derek's interest in returning to the fold, not one bit surprised. The conspiracy theorist in me feels that this sparks of "i'll take a break, let or indeed help the new guy fall flat on his face so that I am proven right in my approach and i can return free to continue my journey to well-being"

As regards the County Board, I heard that they have gone and decided that the Senior Quarter Finals are going to be played on Saturday 31st August - the same day that the Tony Forristal is being played, so looks like there will be no Tony Forristal Finals for Walsh Park this year. One day in the year when underage players, parents and club people are playing or involved not only in Tony Forristal but in the other underage tournaments around the country and we arrange a full list of senior fixtures ? - so much for wanting to promote hurling in Waterford - do you think this would happen in Kilkenny - what a joke

Thought Walsh Park was being demolished soon....? Obviously nothing new will be ready for next season and maybe not the one after either......don’t really see the significance of u14’s not playing in Walsh Park.....the much lauded ‘Carrig-a-nór’ complex with east access and egress and ample parking is surely the place for the forriatal final...?

hardybuck

PTH2009 wrote: »

Apparently waiting on money to go through

Faracial at this stage. The place should be knocked by now

Well this is a big project. Anyone who has built a house and needed to secure finance will tell you about the pain involved.

Hopefully they take learning from the expensive mess they made in Cork.

EYEBALLSOUT

freedominacup wrote: »

Really?? The entirety of Waterford GAA is toxic atm? Would people ever get a grip? There's very little toxic in Waterford GAA at the moment. A lot of people doing great work every day and seeing the results.

There is an inordinate amount of sh1te posted about one small element of the association in the county by people who refer to "them" and what "they" should do instead of "we" and "us" and what we need to do. Hackles raised immediately when they are asked what they have done lately to help the association beyond buy a few tickets for inter county matches because the answer is they've done f'all.

Waterford GAA is toxic at the moment- its underperforming and sliding towards the edge of a cliff.

Underage development squads are getting hockey’d- Westmeath and Offaly beat Waterford u15s. U14 Sonny Walsh Team lost to every team in Munster except Kerry.

Minor teams aren’t performing
U20 teams (Hurling & Football) got destroyed in respective championship games
Senior team hasn’t won a game in 2yrs.
We have 2 Sunday Game representatives having a go off each other every 2nd week plus its made its way into the written media and dare i say it on to this forum.
Open your eyes, come in out of the fog. People are not happy with the direction we’re going. I wouldn’t call Development squads, Minor , u20s and seniors just one small element of the association.
Wake up.

EYEBALLSOUT

Stopitwillya wrote: »

That under 21 team was a good team and should have won easily
He was never with Ballygunner. Was with rower inistigoe in Kilkenny and they went backwards under him.
He was also with Youghal in Cork and despite not winning silverware with them apparently done an excellent job.

• Queally managed Bg in 2007 but lost Ballyduff upper

emergingstar

I reckon Derek Mcgrath will be the next Waterford Manager

PTH2009

emergingstar wrote: »

I reckon Derek Mcgrath will be the next Waterford Manager

Cant see it myself as I think we will wait another while til he comes back. Hard to knw, I could see him taking the job in another county like Wexford

If he does return the pressure on him and the team for 2020 would be immense

mountgomery burns

Don't think the County board want him back either. Can't see it happening, so let's all just relax