Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

Chiparus · 26-07-2019 03:50PM

Another near miss on my cycle this morning!

Duckjob · 26-07-2019 04:08PM

Chiparus wrote: »

The problem with that is the out of control guy coming from behind, this video is from the same bend a couple of years ago

Well, a couple of points -

- firstly, if you were further out he/she will be able to see you from earlier on the bend (assuming they're not instagramming or the like) and have more chance to react.

- In reacting, seeing you further out in the road is likely to influence him/her more to make the decision to kill their speed and wait rather than chance passing you on the bend.

- Of course, they may be of that sad mentality of "f**kin cyclist, not going to slow me down, don't pay road tax" and plough on through regardless, but to be honest, if someone is that determined to be dangerous on the road there's very little you can do stop them.

- On roads like that I always keep one ear and one eye out over my shoulder to suss out potential trouble from behind. If you're out a bit and it looks like they're going to skim you or worse at least you've got some escape room to play with on the left.

Ferris · 26-07-2019 04:57PM

Fifth point - by staying out, and if you do get squeezed, at least you have some room to maneuver and avoid contact. If in doubt, stay out.

magicbastarder · 27-07-2019 07:40PM

not a near miss, but an interesting 'that could have ended badly' story - and the first time i can remember circumstances a bit like this.

i was southbound on the R122, heading for oldtown, and catching up with three lads in front of me, also on bikes. we were approaching this junction - https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5369881,-6.3238188,17.75z - with me maybe 10m, more likely about 15m or even 20m behind the three guys in front.
there was a cement truck waiting to pull out of the junction from our left, and as we approached it, two (i think) of the guys in front indicated left. it was only as i saw the cement truck move i realised that the driver was looking on the four of us as a single bunch, and probably assumed we were all turning left onto the road we was exiting.
thankfully i saw it happening in enough time, and as i swerved in anticipation of him pulling out, he obviously realised i wasn't turning left and stood on the brakes.

if i'd been directly behind the three guys, both myself and the cement truck driver would have had a second or two less to cop the situation. something i'll definitely be considering in future.

TheJak01 · 29-07-2019 12:34PM

Cycling down the Rochestown avenue earlier today. Finally got myself a camera in the amazon prime sale last week, so this is the first time I've caught on on camera. The wide angle doesn't make it look as bad, but it felt pretty hairy at the time. Driver never slowed down and didn't move out at all. Caught him at the next set out lights, and the lad was using his phone. Fairly disappointing.

Could I have been more in the middle of the road considering there were cars approaching? Probably. However, no excuse at all for that carry on, and considering he had the email of the company he worked for plastered all over the van he was driving I've sent an email to the company with an extended video. Nothing nasty, just a reminder that we all have a responsibility to look after each other on the road, and that dangerous passes in what is essentially a giant advert for their company probably isn't the greatest look for potential clientele.

https://streamable.com/6uf5q

micar · 30-07-2019 07:17PM

Cycling to work yesterday. Coming down constitution hill towards the qusys to a junction where I have a green light.

No traffic behind me. BMW turns right into my path.

I think he has a green arrow and thinks that there's is red light for me.

This isn't the first time I had this happen at this junction .

https://youtu.be/tugNvBClqHg

DaveyDave · 30-07-2019 07:25PM

If he had a green arrow your light would be red. He had the same green as you so should have yielded to you. I used to commute that way a few years ago, always had to be on my toes if I had green all the way.

CramCycle · 31-07-2019 12:48AM

DaveyDave wrote: »

If he had a green arrow your light would be red. He had the same green as you so should have yielded to you. I used to commute that way a few years ago, always had to be on my toes if I had green all the way.

About to say the same, driver was just a !"£$^&*

ED E · 31-07-2019 01:02AM

It was a BMW, we don't need to elaborate further.

droidus · 31-07-2019 11:26AM

Yeah, thats happened to me a few times there. It's especially bad if the right turning lane has a van or truck in it obstructing the sightlines.

Tombo2001 · 31-07-2019 11:36AM

Re Constitution Hill - I think in this case, the BMW driver just didn't see you.

There is an issue with those lights - not related to the above though - that the lights coming from Dorset Street are so far back from the cross roads - that frequently the amber gambler will go through the Amber slash red light - but still has a few seconds to get to the actual cross roads; by which time the other lights are already green and people are ready to go.

Its a very tricky junction and not just for cyclists.

crisco10 · 31-07-2019 11:50AM

Definitely a junction that "promotes" conflict. Have had it a few times myself, in the evening it's pretty bad because sight lines are obstructed all over the place.

I've had what happened to you happen me a fair few times. Exacerbated by the fact you have just come down a fairly steep hill so tend to be going faster than the motorist will think you are (if they DO see you).

wardides · 31-07-2019 11:54AM

micar wrote: »

Cycling to work yesterday. Coming down constitution hill towards the qusys to a junction where I have a green light.

No traffic behind me. BMW turns right into my path.

I think he has a green arrow and thinks that there's is red light for me.

This isn't the first time I had this happen at this junction .

https://youtu.be/tugNvBClqHg

As a car driver that is absolutely bonkers. How can he not see you there?

Just as an aside, if there are two cycle lanes, one either side of the road, are cyclists legally obliged to cycle with the flow of the traffic? Or can they use either lane?

Tombo2001 · 31-07-2019 11:56AM

wardides wrote: »

As a car driver that is absolutely bonkers. How can he not see you there?

Just as an aside, if there are two cycle lanes, one either side of the road, are cyclists legally obliged to cycle with the flow of the traffic? Or can they use either lane?

I think its that thing of following the car in front of them; simply that. The two cars in front pass through first, the pedestrian is crossing and the third car then isn't concentrating and goes with the flow.

Actually looking at the video, the pedestrian didn't leave too much room either.

Boom_Bap · 31-07-2019 12:09PM

That junction is just a race to beat the lights from all sides.

xckjoo · 31-07-2019 12:09PM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

I think its that thing of following the car in front of them; simply that. The two cars in front pass through first, the pedestrian is crossing and the third car then isn't concentrating and goes with the flow.

Actually looking at the video, the pedestrian didn't leave too much room either.

It's always the feckin third car! Seriously. There must be something to it. I usually notice it when being overtaken. First car waits for space and overtakes with plenty of room, second is a bit closer but still fine. Then car number 3 will decide to squeeze through no matter what space is left.

droidus · 31-07-2019 12:29PM

There's also the added madness of having 2 x 2 lane roads widening to 3 lanes before the junction which results in 3 x 3 lane roads intersecting and 2 of them then becoming 2 lane roads immediately after the junction.

Tombo2001 · 31-07-2019 12:32PM

I had an unusual one yesterday.

Couple of cars passed me - might have been the Third Car that went past was not super close, but close enough for me to think - "I didn't like that".

Do the inevitable catch up with the traffic ten seconds later at the lights.

Now folks many times in this situation I see said driver has phone in their hand.

But this man had something more unusual in his hand - a can of beer.

Quite surprised that were still people around who had not received that memo.

ED E · 31-07-2019 12:38PM

Hope you called that in.

jive · 01-08-2019 04:40PM

Had some lunatic overtaking me this morning as I was joining the N11 from the road where Oatlands college is, literally merging in on top of me and i ended up with my hand against the rear window of the car still moving. Of course there's 3 legends in there, start shouting out the window and revving the engine followed by close pass in the bus lane. As I'm coming up to the junction near the Radisson one of em has the back door open, in the middle lane of the N11, thankfully I'm tipping along downhill at 40 odd and they're in traffic. Didn't see them again but also didn't get a reg to report.

I knew I was having too good a run of it lately, very few close passes or any issues on the commute

jive · 01-08-2019 06:44PM

Just had a white van overtake on the way home about 20m from a blind bend, oncoming car came around the bend, he squeezed onto me and I slammed on, he slammed on and the oncoming car had to slam on. Everyone’s a loser!

Surely that’s it now for the year I’ve had my 2 proper bad experiences on the 1 day...!

tommythecat · 01-08-2019 08:55PM

Tombo2001 wrote: »

I had an unusual one yesterday.

Couple of cars passed me - might have been the Third Car that went past was not super close, but close enough for me to think - "I didn't like that".

Do the inevitable catch up with the traffic ten seconds later at the lights.

Now folks many times in this situation I see said driver has phone in their hand.

But this man had something more unusual in his hand - a can of beer.

Quite surprised that were still people around who had not received that memo.

Was it a Heineken Zero though?! ðŸ˜‰

Chiparus · 01-08-2019 09:11PM

Probably blinded by my flashing light , or my high vis?

rushfan · 01-08-2019 09:20PM

Chiparus wrote:

Probably blinded by my flashing light , or my high vis?

Straight through a red light? Unreal.

ChrisJ84 · 01-08-2019 09:20PM

Cyclist down on Warrenhouse road this evening, just at the junction with Moyclare. Fire brigade and Gardai on scene, looked pretty serious as they hadn't moved him off the road.

Pigeon Reaper · 02-08-2019 09:04AM

ChrisJ84 wrote: »

Cyclist down on Warrenhouse road this evening, just at the junction with Moyclare. Fire brigade and Gardai on scene, looked pretty serious as they hadn't moved him off the road.

Possible hit and run. Hopefully the woman will recover quickly.

site_owner · 02-08-2019 10:37AM

do you know any more, or have you seen the story reported anywhere?

magicbastarder · 04-08-2019 04:17PM

three times in the last two days i've had to do an abrupt right hand out, palm facing backwards, fingers splayed 'stop overtaking me' gesture when a motorist decides to overtake around a blind bend into oncoming traffic (two of the three) or simply decides to overtake into clearly visible oncoming traffic.
one of them actually gunned it harder when i did this today, on the climb up past ardgillan from the skerries-balbriggan road. the chap in the oncoming car had to stand on the brakes.

RobbieMD · 04-08-2019 04:57PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

three times in the last two days i've had to do an abrupt right hand out, palm facing backwards, fingers splayed 'stop overtaking me' gesture when a motorist decides to overtake around a blind bend into oncoming traffic (two of the three) or simply decides to overtake into clearly visible oncoming traffic.
one of them actually gunned it harder when i did this today, on the climb up past ardgillan from the skerries-balbriggan road. the chap in the oncoming car had to stand on the brakes.

Is that the lovely steep hill as part of the Rás last stage? Well not this year but previous years. Narrow and twisty road for overtaking on with very little vision ahead.

magicbastarder · 04-08-2019 05:13PM

not sure about the Ras, but this is she, and yes, not a road which lends itself to overtaking:

https://www.strava.com/segments/711687

Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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