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Sex and the City author "Truly alone"

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  • #32
    eviltwin
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    OP I wonder about the women you know if you think we are thick enough to base our lives on a TV show


  • #33
    suicide_circus
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    OP I wonder about the women you know if you think we are thick enough to base our lives on a TV show

    i dont think people who are influenced by media are thick.

    i think people who think that media has no influence on them are pretty naieve though.


  • #34
    suicide_circus
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    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    There was no anti-motherhood sentiment though. The OP had that all wrong. There were four main characters, two of whom had kids.

    We can all acknowledge the impact the show had on women in terms of fashion, and prior to it there were no female-led sitcoms that openly discussed sex, so it had a lot of influence in that sense.

    Either way, the "haha, that b1tch ended up alone" sentiment was wholely unnecessary and pretty nasty.

    didnt call her a bitch. that was you.


  • #35
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    didnt call her a bitch. that was you.

    She was paraphrasing obviously. Let’s not pretend your OP doesn’t have a snide slant.


  • #36
    CrankyHaus
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    Was SATC any good or was it just vapid escapism?

    I'm the wrong gender for it, but the odd time I saw it the TV show seemed to be well written and solidly casted, Cattrell in particular had proper comedy chops. The movies looked like absolute cringey cash in drivel though: the insipid materialism turned up to 11 and anything of value chucked overboard.


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  • #37
    eviltwin
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    i dont think people who are influenced by media are thick.

    i think people who think that media has no influence on them are pretty naieve though.

    You said yourself she made her name convincing women not to have kids. I've never met a woman who made that decision because of a TV show. She presented an image of a certain group of people based on her own lived experience, it's entertainment not a manifesto.


  • #38
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    Was SATC any good or was it just vapid escapism?

    I'm the wrong gender for it, but the odd time I saw it the TV show seemed to be well written and solidly casted, Cattrell in particular had proper comedy chops. The movies looked like absolute cringey cash in drivel though: the insipid materialism turned up to 11 and anything of value chucked overboard.

    It’s pretty disliked by both genders in my experience. I enjoyed and still enjoy the TV series (I ignore the films) but I no longer bother defending it. It’s not worth the energy. It’s a unpopular show and I’m not going to change anyone’s mind.


  • #39
    [Deleted User]
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    However the former party girl also revealed that she regularly has Botox and doesn't until 4pm - because she's not hungry until then.

    Forget the kids, she should stop eating botox.


  • #40
    suicide_circus
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    You said yourself she made her name convincing women not to have kids. I've never met a woman who made that decision because of a TV show. She presented an image of a certain group of people based on her own lived experience, it's entertainment not a manifesto.
    fair enough. i just always kind of saw it as extension of the "girl power" of the 90s which did attempt to have social influence. perhaps i'm way off the mark.


  • #41
    kikilarue2
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    It’s pretty disliked by both genders in my experience. I enjoyed and still enjoy the TV series (I ignore the films) but I no longer bother defending it. It’s not worth the energy. It’s a unpopular show and I’m not going to change anyone’s mind.

    Yup, it's a guilty pleasure. it was quite materialist, but it also dealt with a bunch of serious topics, particularly around relationships - sexual politics, infidelity, heartbreak.

    And it's a bit like the Big Bang Theory at the moment - everyone claims to hate it but somehow it's the most popular comedy in America so someone's gotta be watching it.


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  • #42
    kikilarue2
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Forget the kids, she should stop eating botox.

    Why? She looks amazing.


  • #43
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    Yup, it's a guilty pleasure. it was quite materialist, but it also dealt with a bunch of serious topics, particularly around relationships - sexual politics, infidelity, heartbreak.

    And it's a bit like the Big Bang Theory at the moment - everyone claims to hate it but somehow it's the most popular comedy in America so someone's gotta be watching it.

    I don’t even class it as a guilty pleasure, I just like it full stop. Flawed characters, frequently funny.


  • #44
    suicide_circus
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    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    Yup, it's a guilty pleasure. it was quite materialist, but it also dealt with a bunch of serious topics, particularly around relationships - sexual politics, infidelity, heartbreak.

    And it's a bit like the Big Bang Theory at the moment - everyone claims to hate it but somehow it's the most popular comedy in America so someone's gotta be watching it.

    watch the big bang theory without the canned laughter. train crash stuff, SATC is Shakespeare in comparison.


  • #45
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    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    Was SATC any good or was it just vapid escapism?

    I'm the wrong gender for it, but the odd time I saw it the TV show seemed to be well written and solidly casted, Cattrell in particular had proper comedy chops. The movies looked like absolute cringey cash in drivel though: the insipid materialism turned up to 11 and anything of value chucked overboard.

    Kim Cattrell was a caricature of a character, and she played it very well.

    I didn't mind the show, didn't love it or hate it but it had some very witty lines and was an easy watch.

    I'm not ashamed to admit that as a person with zero style of my own, I enjoyed the fashion and interiors most of all. The stylists were excellent on that show.

    All the hatred is completely over the top and unwarranted, imo.


  • #46
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Candie wrote: »
    Kim Cattrell was a caricature of a character, and she played it very well.

    I didn't mind the show, didn't love it or hate it but it had some very witty lines and was an easy watch.

    I'm not ashamed to admit that as a person with zero style of my own, I enjoyed the fashion and interiors most of all. The stylists were excellent on that show.

    All the hatred is completely over the top and unwarranted, imo.

    Re: the fashion, for me, I liked it but it wasn’t why I watched the show. Kind of like Mad Men. The outfits were just an added bonus.

    I totally agree that the vitriol the show inspires is OTT. And the judgements made on those who liked it.


  • #47
    El_Duderino 09
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7295837/Sex-City-writer-admits-regrets-choosing-career-having-children.html

    Candace Bushnell, who made her millions from convincing women to choose career over motherhood in her vapid souless novels has buyers regret.

    *Slow hand clap*

    OP, on a topic completely unrelated to all these "women, amirite?" Posts. How's the love life these days?


  • #48
    [Deleted User]
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    Wait a minute the purpose of children is to make sure you are not lonely when you get old? a tiny bit self-absorbed maybe?


  • #49
    [Deleted User]
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    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    Why? She looks amazing.
    My attempt at a joke Kiki:pac: there was a typo in the article.

    No problem with botox at all. It's the modern equivalent of giving-out to a woman over 40 for for showing her knees, which apparently used to be a bit of a thing.


  • #50
    suicide_circus
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    OP, on a topic completely unrelated to all these "women, amirite?" Posts. How's the love life these days?
    happily married about 3 years. not an incel mgtow, sorry to disappoint


  • #51
    kikilarue2
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    happily married about 3 years. not an incel mgtow, sorry to disappoint

    And is your wife refusing to provide you with progeny on the basis that Carrie and Samantha didn't?


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  • #52
    suicide_circus
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    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    And is your wife refusing to provide you with progeny on the basis that Carrie and Samantha didn't?
    eh, no, we're doing just fine.

    boy, for a point that was so totally nonsensical it seems to have caused an unusual amount of annoyance.


  • #53
    J. Marston
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    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    What kind of person takes pleasure from another human's loneliness?

    Well said, was thinking the same. It takes a special kind of spiteful cúnt to take shots at that.


  • #54
    kikilarue2
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    eh, no, we're doing just fine.

    boy, for a point that was so totally nonsensical it seems to have caused an unusual amount of annoyance.

    I'd say you've caused a good deal of bemusement moreso than annoyance. The part that annoyed me wasn't so much your main point, which was just wrong but sure we're all wrong now and then, but that you felt the need to be so mean about it.


  • #55
    Reviews and Books Galore
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    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    Yeah, SATC and Bridget Jones are pointless, but watching 20-something men chase a ball around a field - that's a meaningful hobby.


    The women's soccer team doesn't deserve to be shamed for picking that as a career path and women shouldn't be shamed for watching that.:cool:


  • #56
    ToddyDoody
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    happily married about 3 years. not an incel mgtow, sorry to disappoint

    Marriage is a badge of honour.


  • #57
    eviltwin
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    eh, no, we're doing just fine.

    boy, for a point that was so totally nonsensical it seems to have caused an unusual amount of annoyance.

    I think it was the smug pleasure you took at the article and the condescending "now ladies be warned" implication.


  • #58
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    pleasant Co. wrote: »
    That's true, growing up, at some point I wanted to be a vampire slayer....things have worked out pretty well.


    Now that, was a good show.


  • #59
    suicide_circus
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    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    I'd say you've caused a good deal of bemusement moreso than annoyance. The part that annoyed me wasn't so much your main point, which was just wrong but sure we're all wrong now and then, but that you felt the need to be so mean about it.

    "so mean"... do you hear yourself?


  • #60
    suicide_circus
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    I think it was the smug pleasure you took at the article and the condescending "now ladies be warned" implication.
    i would say the "now ladies be warned" bit is coming from Bushnell herself if anyone. You didnt need me to read that into it.


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  • #61
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    "so mean"... do you hear yourself?

    Maybe you didn't intend it to come across as it did, but the OP sounded quite spiteful, to be fair.


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