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Sex and the City author "Truly alone"

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  • #2
    Potential-Monke
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    She must have been truly alone to write that tripe in the first place


  • #3
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7295837/Sex-City-writer-admits-regrets-choosing-career-having-children.html

    Candace Bushnell, who made her millions from convincing women to choose career over motherhood in her vapid souless novels has buyers regret.

    *Slow hand clap*

    Aaahh, wha’?


  • #4
    SusieBlue
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    Two of the women had children, in fact the show highlighted Charlotte's fertility struggles and her journey to conceive.
    How did that encourage viewers to put their careers before motherhood?


  • #5
    EmmetSpiceland
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7295837/Sex-City-writer-admits-regrets-choosing-career-having-children.html

    Candace Bushnell, who made her millions from convincing women to choose career over motherhood in her vapid souless novels has buyers regret.

    *Slow hand clap*

    At least it had a better message than the “Bridget Jones” franchise.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • #6
    Autecher
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    Suicide Circus, that ogling women thread just got closed and you start this one? You've just thrown a live grenade into after hours.


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  • #7
    kikilarue2
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7295837/Sex-City-writer-admits-regrets-choosing-career-having-children.html

    Candace Bushnell, who made her millions from convincing women to choose career over motherhood in her vapid souless novels has buyers regret.

    *Slow hand clap*

    What kind of person takes pleasure from another human's loneliness?


  • #8
    suicide_circus
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    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Two of the women had children, in fact the show highlighted Charlotte's fertility struggles and her journey to conceive.
    How did that encourage viewers to put their careers before motherhood?

    i thought that was the whole point of the protagonist?


  • #9
    suicide_circus
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    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    What kind of person takes pleasure from another human's loneliness?

    i'm not ""pleasured"


  • #10
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    i thought that was the whole point of the protagonist?

    Did you ever read the book or watch the show?


  • #11
    suicide_circus
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    Did you ever read the book or watch the show?
    yes i had to sit through a good deal of the show


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  • #12
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    i thought that was the whole point of the protagonist?

    She’s a fictional character. Who the fuck bases huge life decisions on what a fictional character does?


  • #13
    kikilarue2
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    Yeah, SATC and Bridget Jones are pointless, but watching 20-something men chase a ball around a field - that's a meaningful hobby.


  • #14
    suicide_circus
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    sorry ladies, yikes


  • #15
    kikilarue2
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    i'm not ""pleasured"

    There's a strong bang of schadenfreude off your OP.

    At least she's got her millions to keep her company, more than most of us can say.


  • #16
    Autecher
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    sorry ladies, yikes
    I did try to warn you....

    Autecher wrote: »
    Suicide Circus, that ogling women thread just got closed and you start this one? You've just thrown a live grenade into after hours.


  • #17
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    sorry ladies, yikes

    But, like, seriously. Who do you think would say “I really want kids but Carrie doesn’t want them so now I don’t know what to think!”? Do you not realise how daft that sounds?


  • #18
    Autecher
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    But, like, seriously. Who do you think would say “I really want kids but Carrie doesn’t want them so now I don’t know what to think!”? Do you not realise how daft that sounds?
    ODB! You actually made Desperately passive aggressive your signature! I thought you were messing when you said that the other day. Haha! I llike that :D


  • #19
    [Deleted User]
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    I dunno. I mean, the main reason I had a third boob installed was because of Total Recall. And I had one eye taken out and the remaining one repositioned because of Futurama.

    Most tellingly of all there was this one time I bought a dress because I saw one similar on tv and liked it, so it's not like it's completely unheard of to base your serious life choices on the half-hour antics of fictional characters.

    Thanks for the heads-up, OP. That'll learn me.


  • #20
    suicide_circus
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    Autecher wrote: »
    I did try to warn you....

    eject! eject!!


  • #21
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Autecher wrote: »
    ODB! You actually made Desperately passive aggressive your signature! I thought you were messing when you said that the other day. Haha! I llike that :D

    I couldn’t pass it up. Plus I am a passive aggressive wagon, so why not? :pac:


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  • #22
    suicide_circus
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    But, like, seriously. Who do you think would say “I really want kids but Carrie doesn’t want them so now I don’t know what to think!”? Do you not realise how daft that sounds?
    i think its stylishness and popularity may have made certain lifestyle choices seem more appealing. Like the way porkpie hats got popular with breaking bad.


  • #23
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    i think its stylishness and popularity may have made certain lifestyle choices seem more appealing.

    Right... but clothes... children. Kind of a big difference there.


  • #24
    [Deleted User]
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    One minute it's looking at fashion on television and the next it's all "Ooh, I really want kids...but I think I'll have a new pair of shoes instead" Fickle yokes, those women.

    Women, sort yourselves out!


  • #25
    kikilarue2
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Right... but clothes... children. Kind of a big difference there.

    No, women place all decisions, from whether to invest in a pair of Jimmy Choos to whether or not to have children at the same level.

    And if they should choose not to have children, they obviously deserve to be mocked for that decision if they feel lonely as they get older.

    Obvz.


  • #26
    suicide_circus
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Right... but clothes... children. Kind of a big difference there.
    ok i'm wrong. but i think there is a kernel of truth in there somewhere.


  • #27
    [Deleted User]
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    ok i'm wrong. but i think there is a kernel of truth in there somewhere.

    I think you may think that because it suits your biases. We all do that to some extent.

    We don't all open threads to mock people about it, but we all do it.


  • #28
    Tiddlypeeps
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    But, like, seriously. Who do you think would say “I really want kids but Carrie doesn’t want them so now I don’t know what to think!”? Do you not realise how daft that sounds?


    People are influenced more than you would think by the media they consume. For example there is often a spike in certain professions following culturally significant movies for example the original Jurassic Park caused a spike in Paleontology and Archaeology.


    It's not that someone would sit down and say I want this thing but I'm not gonna do it because X person from Y show doesn't do it, it's much more subtle than that. For example if a teenage girl who watched Sex in the City might be drawn to the lifestyle shown and pursue similar, whereas if they were otherwise not exposed to that lifestyle by other means they might only be exposed to people in their community. Which for a young woman in a rural area might mean the only other women they are exposed to are all stay at home mothers or teachers.


    I'm not saying Sex in the City actually did influence anyone this way, I have no idea, I'm just saying it's not a ridiculous suggestion as it was a very popular show when it aired.


  • #29
    Porklife
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    To be fair, I have learned some life lessons from that show. There's an episode where Miranda is questioning whether a guy she likes will call or not and Carries bf sets her straight - there is no confusion...if a guy likes you he's calling you no matter what and if he doesn't, he's just not that into you! Wise words from a guy called Burger!


  • #30
    pleasant Co.
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    Tiddlypeeps wrote: »
    People are influenced more than you would think by the media they consume. For example there is often a spike in certain professions following culturally significant movies for example the original Jurassic Park caused a spike in Paleontology and Archaeology.


    It's not that someone would sit down and say I want this thing but I'm not gonna do it because X person from Y show doesn't do it, it's much more subtle than that. For example if a teenage girl who watched Sex in the City might be drawn to the lifestyle shown and pursue similar, whereas if they were otherwise not exposed to that lifestyle by other means they might only be exposed to people in their community. Which for a young woman in a rural area might mean the only other women they are exposed to are all stay at home mothers or teachers.


    I'm not saying Sex in the City actually did influence anyone this way, I have no idea, I'm just saying it's not a ridiculous suggestion as it was a very popular show when it aired.

    That's true, growing up, at some point I wanted to be a vampire slayer....things have worked out pretty well.


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  • #31
    kikilarue2
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    Tiddlypeeps wrote: »
    PIt's not that someone would sit down and say I want this thing but I'm not gonna do it because X person from Y show doesn't do it, it's much more subtle than that. For example if a teenage girl who watched Sex in the City might be drawn to the lifestyle shown and pursue similar, whereas if they were otherwise not exposed to that lifestyle by other means they might only be exposed to people in their community. Which for a young woman in a rural area might mean the only other women they are exposed to are all stay at home mothers or teachers.

    There was no anti-motherhood sentiment though. The OP had that all wrong. There were four main characters, two of whom had kids.

    We can all acknowledge the impact the show had on women in terms of fashion, and prior to it there were no female-led sitcoms that openly discussed sex, so it had a lot of influence in that sense.

    Either way, the "haha, that b1tch ended up alone" sentiment was wholely unnecessary and pretty nasty.


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