Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Changes in the GAA - super thread

15556586061109

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    threeball wrote: »
    There's lads higher up than me asking those questions already so no point in me asking but good to know I touched a nerve. Ye don't like being confronted with the truth.


    Nope. Just making the point that some county boards can't be trusted. Others, like Dublin, invest wisely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭threeball


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    threeball wrote: »
    There's lads higher up than me asking those questions already so no point in me asking but good to know I touched a nerve. Ye don't like being confronted with the truth.


    Nope. Just making the point that some county boards can't be trusted. Others, like Dublin, invest wisely.

    Hard to know how well it's invested there's so much of it sloshing around in the Dublin coffers. Be hard to make a bollox of it with €17m to play around with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    threeball wrote: »
    Hard to know how well it's invested there's so much of it sloshing around in the Dublin coffers. Be hard to make a bollox of it with €17m to play around with.

    Because they're worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Nope. Just making the point that some county boards can't be trusted. Others, like Dublin, invest wisely.

    Invest all our (GAA) money wisely
    That's the biggest joke of all.
    There are clubs in Dublin with better facilities than most counties have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Invest all our (GAA) money wisely
    That's the biggest joke of all.
    There are clubs in Dublin with better facilities than most counties have.

    When the treasurer slams the serious abuse of a credit card in Galway GAA I'm not really surprised.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    A strike will eventually happen if as I predict Dublin go onto do 10 in a row and more. Especially as we'll have a super compatible and exciting hurling championship not dominated by Dublin. They might have won the hurling once or twice by then but not enough to ruin it. Counties will eventually say enough is enough. I think they'll just hand Dublin byes at the beginning and forfeit the match but eventually counties will come together and say you can have Sam Dublin but the rest of us will play a different competition and only counties are invited.

    A civil war is coming and it will be popcorn worthy. I wish we could just skip dublin's next 5 or 6 sams and get it going already.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    RoyalCelt wrote: »
    A strike will eventually happen if as I predict Dublin go onto do 10 in a row and more. Especially as we'll have a super compatible and exciting hurling championship not dominated by Dublin. They might have won the hurling once or twice by then but not enough to ruin it. Counties will eventually say enough is enough. I think they'll just hand Dublin byes at the beginning and forfeit the match but eventually counties will come together and say you can have Sam Dublin but the rest of us will play a different competition and only counties are invited.

    A civil war is coming and it will be popcorn worthy. I wish we could just skip dublin's next 5 or 6 sams and get it going already.
    The Football competition would be a Great Competition without Dublin .

    No other County Teams should Play Dublin .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    I have noticed no non-dubs have commented on my post about the age profile of this Dublin squad and the implications it may have 2/3 years down the line


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    blinding wrote: »
    The Football competition would be a Great Competition without Dublin .

    No other County Teams should Play Dublin .


    Pangs of desperation now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Pangs of desperation now.
    Reality . It would be a much more genuine competition without Dublin .


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭dunnerc


    blinding wrote: »
    Reality . It would be a much more genuine competition without Dublin .

    Keep on dreaming:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    We all know thats not going to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,042 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Gotta say - love how the Dublin apologists are spinning away and deflecting and distracting like mad on this thread

    Keep at it lads. Giving us all a welcome laugh


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    As a start I recommend that fans from other Counties boycott matches against Dublin .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭dunnerc


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    We all know thats not going to happen.

    A few idiots here appear to disagree :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭dunnerc


    Gotta say - love how the Dublin apologists are spinning away and deflecting and distracting like mad on this thread

    Keep at it lads. Giving us all a welcome laugh

    Gotta say - love how the Dublin haters are getting more desperate with their stupid suggestions.

    Keep at it lads . Giving us all a welcome laugh :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    blinding wrote: »
    As a start I recommend that fans from other Counties boycott matches against Dublin .

    Do you think this will go on forever or will this Dublin team decline as per my post yesterday and it will become again a 4 or 5 horse race like it always was? Why was there never any outcry that realistically even when it was at its most competitive only 4 or 5 teams would ever have a chance every year. Nothing has changed for the likes of Louth. Leitrim, Sligo, Antrim in the last 50 years, they are still cannon fodder, where is the outcry on this? Or are some people just selfishly looking out for their county alone (those teams that have come close - i.e. Mayo) and that is why their anger is directed at Dublin and not at the system overall. How would they suggest they level the playing field between the likes of Mayo and Leitrim or Kerry and Waterford etc etc


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    kilns wrote: »

    Do you think this will go on forever or will this Dublin team decline as per my post yesterday and it will become again a 4 or 5 horse race like it always was? Why was there never any outcry that realistically even when it was at its most competitive only 4 or 5 teams would ever have a chance every year. Nothing has changed for the likes of Louth. Leitrim, Sligo, Antrim in the last 50 years, they are still cannon fodder, where is the outcry on this? Or are some people just selfishly looking out for their county alone (those teams that have come close - i.e. Mayo) and that is why their anger is directed at Dublin and not at the system overall. How would they suggest they level the playing field between the likes of Mayo and Leitrim or Kerry and Waterford etc etc
    They could try the financial doping that has been done with Dublin;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    blinding wrote: »
    They could try the financial doping that has been done with Dublin;)

    Would you like to address the age profile of this current Dublin team and explain why financial doping is not stopping the average age rising?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭dunnerc


    How sad is that ? Sorry teacher :rolleyes:


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭toffeeshel


    kilns wrote: »

    How would they suggest they level the playing field between the likes of Mayo and Leitrim or Kerry and Waterford etc etc

    Can’t be leveled because Mayo has 4 times the population of Leitrim and Kerry has 3 times the population of Waterford.
    Oh hang on a minute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Gotta say - love how the Dublin apologists are spinning away and deflecting and distracting like mad on this thread

    Keep at it lads. Giving us all a welcome laugh


    Not deflection just reality.
    Of the options suggested by people on here and probably yourself, do you truly believe,
    A)Dublin GAA will be split into 2/4/6/8.
    B)Fans will boycott games.
    C)Inter county players will go on strike rather than play Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭dunnerc


    @Beechwoodspark fixed that for you teacher


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭threeball


    kilns wrote: »

    Do you think this will go on forever or will this Dublin team decline as per my post yesterday and it will become again a 4 or 5 horse race like it always was? Why was there never any outcry that realistically even when it was at its most competitive only 4 or 5 teams would ever have a chance every year. Nothing has changed for the likes of Louth. Leitrim, Sligo, Antrim in the last 50 years, they are still cannon fodder, where is the outcry on this? Or are some people just selfishly looking out for their county alone (those teams that have come close - i.e. Mayo) and that is why their anger is directed at Dublin and not at the system overall. How would they suggest they level the playing field between the likes of Mayo and Leitrim or Kerry and Waterford etc etc

    I've said years ago counties should be amalgamated to make them relevant. Leitrim and Sligo, Westmeath and Longford, Offaly and Laois, only a small sample of counties who do need to join together to really put in a challenge but that still doesn't address the funding issue of Dublin.

    Before the funding Dublin were a top county capable of challenging in any year but not unbeatable. The funding has taken Dublin to a different level due to the conditioning of players. A few counties can live with Dublin for 50 mins but they can't live with the conditioning or the replacements that Dublin have over 70-75 mins. Even Cork stuck with ye but conditioning got them in the end.

    Deny it all ye want but Dublin are nowhere until the U20 grade and then at the age conditioning makes a real difference they just explode from nowhere. Dublin have plenty of average footballers with supreme conditioning. Johnny Cooper, Eoin Murchan, Philly Mc, MDMA are run of the mill players that have their equal or better in many other counties but they're as well conditioned as an Aussie rules player and thats mostly down to money. Other counties can't live with that. Dublin don't need to add wonderkids every year, just one every 3yrs to add quality to the athletes that surround them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    threeball wrote: »
    I've said years ago counties should be amalgamated to make them relevant. Leitrim and Sligo, Westmeath and Longford, Offaly and Laois, only a small sample of counties who do need to join together to really put in a challenge but that still doesn't address the funding issue of Dublin.

    Before the funding Dublin were a top county capable of challenging in any year but not unbeatable. The funding has taken Dublin to a different level due to the conditioning of players. A few counties can live with Dublin for 50 mins but they can't live with the conditioning or the replacements that Dublin have over 70-75 mins. Even Cork stuck with ye but conditioning got them in the end.

    Deny it all ye want but Dublin are nowhere until the U20 grade and then at the age conditioning makes a real difference they just explode from nowhere. Dublin have plenty of average footballers with supreme conditioning. Johnny Cooper, Eoin Murchan, Philly Mc, MDMA are run of the mill players that have their equal or better in many other counties but they're as well conditioned as an Aussie rules player and thats mostly down to money. Other counties can't live with that. Dublin don't need to add wonderkids every year, just one every 3yrs to add quality to the athletes that surround them.

    I will only ask this question once, could you provide evidence that any of the Games Development funding from the GAA (1.3m Euro) is used for the physical condition of players?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    threeball wrote: »
    I've said years ago counties should be amalgamated to make them relevant. Leitrim and Sligo, Westmeath and Longford, Offaly and Laois, only a small sample of counties who do need to join together to really put in a challenge but that still doesn't address the funding issue of Dublin.

    Before the funding Dublin were a top county capable of challenging in any year but not unbeatable. The funding has taken Dublin to a different level due to the conditioning of players. A few counties can live with Dublin for 50 mins but they can't live with the conditioning or the replacements that Dublin have over 70-75 mins. Even Cork stuck with ye but conditioning got them in the end.

    Deny it all ye want but Dublin are nowhere until the U20 grade and then at the age conditioning makes a real difference they just explode from nowhere. Dublin have plenty of average footballers with supreme conditioning. Johnny Cooper, Eoin Murchan, Philly Mc, MDMA are run of the mill players that have their equal or better in many other counties but they're as well conditioned as an Aussie rules player and thats mostly down to money. Other counties can't live with that. Dublin don't need to add wonderkids every year, just one every 3yrs to add quality to the athletes that surround them.
    amalgamting counties isnt the answer. Tiered competition makes far more sense.
    Weaker/smaller counties amalgamating wont be challenging all too often at top end of competition and these counties would do far better in a competition where they play more sides of their level and have realistic chance to win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    amalgamting counties isnt the answer. Tiered competition makes far more sense.
    Weaker/smaller counties amalgamating wont be challenging all too often at top end of competition and these counties would do far better in a competition where they play more sides of their level and have realistic chance to win.

    I agree, running two competitions of 16 teams side by side with the exact formats , no messing about with them and culminating with a finals weekend (one final on the saturday the other on the Sunday)

    Imagine the breath of fresh air it would bring to see someone like Longford geniunely competing to win a competition, it may take a while for people to buy into it but the way things are it is not sustainable, the provincial systems are outdated and should be done away with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Salvation Tambourine


    threeball wrote: »
    d.
    Deny it all ye want but Dublin are nowhere until the U20 grade and then at the age conditioning makes a real difference they just explode from nowhere. Dublin have plenty of average footballers with supreme conditioning. Johnny Cooper, Eoin Murchan, Philly Mc, MDMA are run of the mill players that have their equal or better in many other counties but they're as well conditioned as an Aussie rules player and thats mostly down to money. Other counties can't live with that. Dublin don't need to add wonderkids every year, just one every 3yrs to add quality to the athletes that surround them.

    What do you think Dublin are doing with their money for the conditioning of the players that the likes of Cork, Kerry, Donegal and Tyrone aren't?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,641 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Nokotan wrote: »
    What do you think Dublin are doing with their money for the conditioning of the players that the likes of Cork, Kerry, Donegal and Tyrone aren't?

    Dublin have inherent advantages for players in that most can work or go to college close to home. This does make things like training easier, the problem is this is nothing to do with money it’s just a natural advantage like population.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    salmocab wrote: »
    Dublin have inherent advantages for players in that most can work or go to college close to home. This does make things like training easier, the problem is this is nothing to do with money it’s just a natural advantage like population.

    That is not a new issue however, Dublin have always had that advantage. They have just been very lucky to have a group of gifted players all come along at once, due to population they will always have excellent players but not all at once, this core group have been all together now for a long time


Advertisement