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Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Are the British going to send the coast guard?

    I think they have couple of destroyers in Persian gulf. Another one on the way, If they going in militarily, they ask Trump to join it be difficult for him to turn down an ally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Gatling wrote: »
    He doesn't give a feck about his inbred base there are others who want a war ,but trump has already said he would take action hence the carrier group , other fleet vessels ,along with enough airpower to remove most of Iran's military being moved into the area

    For some reason Iran thinks they can get a better deal out of this ,they will rapidly alienate any support if they don't back down

    Did it ever occur to you,that without the US presence there...there would be no issues in the strait of Hormuz


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    War between former USA and UK if something goes wrong. If the Americans pretending to be Iranians kill anyone from the British ships and the British find out, relations go south very quickly. 2 former pals and nuke powers on a war footing. And all to cover up a stupid rally Bolton's racist pals set up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    The Yanks and Brits are like the school bullies who have cornered a little kid and are amazed that not only is he refusing to hand over his lunch money...but he has now gone and grabbed their lunch money :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Gatling wrote: »
    He doesn't give a feck about his inbred base there are others who want a war ,but trump has already said he would take action hence the carrier group , another fleet vessels ,along with enough airpower to remove most of Iran's military

    He probably won’t make that speech about his inbred base at his next rally. He wants to be re-elected.
    For some reason Iran thinks they can get a better deal out of this ,they will rapidly alienate any support if they don't back down

    Let’s see what happens. Any war could cause a world wide recession and could be devastating to the west. Even People like yourself who tend to support wars that kill millions of brown people might have some opposition if it affected your livelihood.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    War betweem former USA and UK if something goes wrong. If the Americans pretending to be Iranians kill anyone from the British ships and the British find out, relations go south very quickly.

    What da fauq are you smoking !!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Even People like yourself who tend to support wars that kill millions of brown people might have some opposition if it affected your livelihood.

    Stop with the nonsense I'm one of the few in this thread was said no war ..


    But war won't effect my livelihood not one bit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    British-linked tanker Mesdar has updated its position, it may have got released? Early reports maybe a sign Iran is willing to release one of the tankers, maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    I think they have couple of destroyers in Persian gulf. Another one on the way, If they going in militarily, they ask Trump to join it be difficult for him to turn down an ally.

    Might want to research the falklands.

    (Of course I realise that there are far more war mongers in the US these days, many with a hatred of Iran).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


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    Gatling wrote: »
    What da fauq are you smoking !!!

    The truth. Perfect crisis to divert attentions away from the negative publicity over the 'send her back' rallies. Typical John Bolton tripe. This drivel was not happening when Bolton wasn't influencing things was it??? People need to wake up to the evil of this April 2018 American filth. Worst American regime ever. And the worst is yet to come unless this shower are taken down now for good.

    April 2018 regime want to get the UK out of the 2015 deal too. All very clear who is behind all this.


  • Site Banned Posts: 57 ✭✭Faye McAleer


    British-linked tanker Mesdar has updated its position, it may have got released? Early reports maybe a sign Iran is willing to release one of the tankers, maybe?

    I don't think so.

    Which of the tankers had members of the Garda Armed Support Unit onboard?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,955 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    A rather inopportune time for the UK to have it's flagship carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, pulled up at the side of the channel waiting for the AA van to arrive and fix it .... again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    I don't think so.

    Which of the tankers had members of the Garda Armed Support Unit onboard?

    Transponder for the second tanker has just come online and its moving away from Iranian Coast. Right now it looks to be released. There no need for Iran to hold two tankers, they only need one to bargain with..


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Transponder for the second tanker has just come online and its moving away from Iranian Coast. Right now it looks to be released. There no need for Iran to hold two tankers, they only need one to bargain with..

    Or it simply wasn't taken or Iranians didn't like the armed security on board

    One tanker won't give them much leverage just a case of how much are the cleric's and Revolutionary guard willing are willing to lose .

    A weakened military could lead the people of Iran to make changes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    The US and UK are in a bit of a bind here,if they attack Iran they look bad on the world stage after seizing an Iranian ship.... an eye for an eye and all that...


  • Site Banned Posts: 57 ✭✭Faye McAleer


    Is that two or three tankers seized in the Strait of Hormuz?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    Time for John Bolton to go. Simple as. Bolton should belong only in dystopian fiction, Sadly, this clown is real. The Fascist North American state's national anthem should be 'Send in the clowns'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Is that two or three tankers seized in the Strait of Hormuz?

    One single vessel apparently


  • Site Banned Posts: 57 ✭✭Faye McAleer


    Gatling wrote: »
    One single vessel apparently

    No, two vessels were seized, I have heard reports that a third was also seized but that hasn't been confirmed.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    The truth. Perfect crisis to divert attentions away from the negative publicity over the 'send her back' rallies.

    lol

    Hate to break it to you, but outside liberal circles, most people could give a **** about that nonsense.

    Or at least, certainly not to the degree that anyone would risk starting a war over it to try and deflect attention away from it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Gatling wrote: »
    Or it simply wasn't taken or Iranians didn't like the armed security on board

    One tanker won't give them much leverage just a case of how much are the cleric's and Revolutionary guard willing are willing to lose .

    A weakened military could lead the people of Iran to make changes

    IRGC are claiming they have now released Mesdar oil tanker. They still are keeping the Stella tanker, for now.

    They only wanted their oil tanker back and are likely trying to negotiate this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    Time for John Bolton to go. Simple as. Bolton should belong only in dystopian fiction, Sadly, this clown is real. The Fascist North American state's national anthem should be 'Send in the clowns'.

    “Fascist North America” would you ever give over.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    Time for John Bolton to go. Simple as. Bolton should belong only in dystopian fiction, Sadly, this clown is real. The Fascist North American state's national anthem should be 'Send in the clowns'.

    “Fascist North America” would you ever give over....


  • Site Banned Posts: 57 ✭✭Faye McAleer


    IRGC are claiming they have now released Mesdar oil tanker. They still are keeping the Stella tanker, for now.

    They only wanted their oil tanker back and are likely trying to negotiate this.

    Why did they take the Mesdar in the first place?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling



    They only wanted their oil tanker back and are likely trying to negotiate this.

    They were offered it back days ago

    Publicly offered it back so now we're into piracy or terrorism .

    The British should now drain the Iranian oil and sell it off


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,322 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    “Fascist North America” would you ever give over.....

    Well I mean they are second only to Uganda in the country involved in the most wars....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    “Fascist North America” would you ever give over....

    What else are they? Warmongering. Sanctions. And oh yes a pregnant woman who gets shot nearly jailed in Alabama. Anyone excusing America's current regime's VILE agenda needs a reality check. At best, this Bolton regime is insulting but we know they are worse than just that. I would hate to see who the next Republican president would be if this trend continues: some awful mongrel of Commander Fred, Joseph McCarthy and Hitler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    lol

    Hate to break it to you, but outside liberal circles, most people could give a **** about that nonsense.

    Or at least, certainly not to the degree that anyone would risk starting a war over it to try and deflect attention away from it.

    There is no nonsense. America's history is vile and there are plenty evil racist types who are there in the background waiting in the aisles. No, I don't think Trump is a real racist but I do believe there is an evil base of racists out there.

    Liberal = free. We are ALL supposed to be free. The opposite to that is UNFREE. So, anyone who thinks liberal is a dirty word are advocates of the unfree. The horrors of slavery, segregation and prohibition and the paranoia of McCarthysim where capitalists were condemned as communists. This is all the types of America we need to NEVER see gain footing ever again.

    Of course, there is hyperbole by these Democrat congresswomen and so on but threats do exist and namecalling from both sides feeds extremists. There is a campaign by evil people like Bolton to start wars with all sorts of dirty trickery and the sad fact is guys like Bolton could look good compared to the filth that could eventually take their place in America if all this current paranoid McCarthyist-style stuff continues.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    What else are they? Warmongering. Sanctions. And oh yes a pregnant woman who gets shot nearly jailed in Alabama. Anyone excusing America's current regime's VILE agenda needs a reality check. At best, this Bolton regime is insulting but we know they are worse than just that. I would hate to see who the next Republican president would be if this trend continues: some awful mongrel of Commander Fred, Joseph McCarthy and Hitler.

    Honestly that post is a load of sensationalist nonsense, there’s very little difference between how America is run from one administration to the other. It doesn’t just transform on a dime after each election.


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