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Banned! :mad:SmartinMartin wrote: »A simple 'no' would have sufficed
and you an all.That's actually wibbs in the second photo
Looks like a Moeris ATP British issued watch. ATP = Army Trade Pattern. Similar specification to the German army issued DH watches and the Swiss sold to both(with the notable exception of Rolex who wouldn't sell to the nazis)fulladapipes wrote: »I was in Arnhem today (A Bridge Too Far) and saw this watch in the museum. One for Wibbs to educate us on, perhaps. Hopefully these photos come through ok.
Nice little watches and the easiest of the ATP series to find. Here's one on ebay for under 300 quids.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Thanks R. Yeah it's pretty cool alright. I'm currently reading a great book on the crashes of allied and axis aircraft on Irish soil during "The Emergency", entitled Luftwaffe Eagles over Ireland and on one page it has one of these compasses recovered from one such incident and mine beside it.Rootsblower wrote: »Wow Wibbs I love the wrist compass.
Still works too.
In the pic above the watch and the compass are sitting atop the tailwheel from a Junkers JU87 Stuka dive bomber(they were also fitted to FW 190's). Damn thing can still hold air in the tyre...Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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And of course what would I be wearing today only the watch worn by the guys on the other side of the Bridge Too Far...
Pretty much the opposite number of the ATP watches.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Hi, I want to buy a watch, my first one I've ever spent more than probably 35 euro on! I saw some minimalist ones I liked the look of, Daniel Wellington, but did a search on boards and saw a thread saying they're only a fashion watch, and that something like Tissot or Orient would be better. Budget about 200-250.
I saw these on Amazon and I'm wondering if they are legit, because they're a fair bit cheaper than I would have thought, like nearly 50% cheaper than I would have thought, any input appreciated, thanks
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Orient-Japanese-Automatic-Leather-Calfskin-FAC0000EW0/dp/B072K5JSF5/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Orient-Analog-Japanese-Automatic-Leather-FAC00005W0/dp/B01MXPSU8R/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=orient+bambino&qid=1562627340&s=gateway&sr=8-80 -
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The continuing story of me wearing oddball stuff nobody else would.. It's rare to be fair, even rarer in working order and NOS, but delicate and as prone to damage as a butterfly's wing. In a cement mixer.
I only bring it out a few times a year so it is preserved for the future. I love that it vibrates on the wrist and the seconds hand is smoooooth.
The crown is on the backplate like some of the Bulova Accutrons. Never mind all that, it was the watch world's only cybernetic movement*. CybereffinNetic. Game over. I was sold. Cos me.
They go for around the 1500 quid mark if you can find a working one. Longines themselves don't have a working one. Two styles, my example and one where the seconds hand goes under the dial markers as it sweeps. Very cool. Really only a museum piece TBH. Very delicate to impacts and the time and wear on some components. I believe there's a chap in Germany can repair them, but yeah not really practical, so only for the oddballs. *ahem*
Daftly expensive when new in 71-72, around the 1000 quid mark when an Omega Speedmaster was under 200, though cheaper than the Swiss Beta 21 quartz which was more like 1500 and the Seiko Astron was double that again. Clearly a bargain. Even came with free insurance for the first two years of ownership.
The only replacement part listed was the entire movement, which was built by hand from the miniaturised components normally found in hearing aids(which by their very nature were made as small as tech would allow). The quartz crystal was hand cut from natural Brazilian quartz and hand tuned with microscopic slivers of gold leaf to 9350 Hz(if that blows you're boned) under a microscope. When we think of battery watches today the tech is almost entirely produced by machine processes for the obvious reasons of cost, reliability and scalability.
I love that this is a relic of a time when the tech was new and some were still attempting it by hand using the old labour intensive watchmaking skills of working in miniature. To think at the time this was actually considered a "cheaper" way to produce the new fangled quartz watches, because it didn't use a "silicon chip" which were mad money on their own and supply was patchy. It likely made sense back then(these were first prototyped in 1966) as it kept things more inhouse and less reliant on Motorola or whomever and could repurpose their existing highly skilled staff into the new tech.
*IE the electro mechanical circuit is slaved to the quartz circuit and the latter tweaks the former in an internal feedback loop when it goes out of true. I suppose an atomic radio signal watch might be similar, though at a remove. An atomic watch would be as the display would be quartz driven with the atomic bit regulating it.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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The continuing story of me wearing oddball stuff nobody else would.. It's rare to be fair, even rarer in working order and NOS, but delicate and as prone to damage as a butterfly's wing. In a cement mixer.
I only bring it out a few times a year so it is preserved for the future. I love that it vibrates on the wrist and the seconds hand is smoooooth.
The crown is on the backplate like some of the Bulova Accutrons. Never mind all that, it was the watch world's only cybernetic movement*. CybereffinNetic. Game over. I was sold. Cos me.
They go for around the 1500 quid mark if you can find a working one. Longines themselves don't have a working one. Two styles, my example and one where the seconds hand goes under the dial markers as it sweeps. Very cool. Really only a museum piece TBH. Very delicate to impacts and the time and wear on some components. I believe there's a chap in Germany can repair them, but yeah not really practical, so only for the oddballs. *ahem*
Daftly expensive when new in 71-72, around the 1000 quid mark when an Omega Speedmaster was under 200, though cheaper than the Swiss Beta 21 quartz which was more like 1500 and the Seiko Astron was double that again. Clearly a bargain. Even came with free insurance for the first two years of ownership.
The only replacement part listed was the entire movement, which was built by hand from the miniaturised components normally found in hearing aids(which by their very nature were made as small as tech would allow). The quartz crystal was hand cut from natural Brazilian quartz and hand tuned with microscopic slivers of gold leaf to 9350 Hz(if that blows you're boned) under a microscope. When we think of battery watches today the tech is almost entirely produced by machine processes for the obvious reasons of cost, reliability and scalability.
I love that this is a relic of a time when the tech was new and some were still attempting it by hand using the old labour intensive watchmaking skills of working in miniature. To think at the time this was actually considered a "cheaper" way to produce the new fangled quartz watches, because it didn't use a "silicon chip" which were mad money on their own and supply was patchy. It likely made sense back then(these were first prototyped in 1966) as it kept things more inhouse and less reliant on Motorola or whomever and could repurpose their existing highly skilled staff into the new tech.
*IE the electro mechanical circuit is slaved to the quartz circuit and the latter tweaks the former in an internal feedback loop when it goes out of true. I suppose an atomic radio signal watch might be similar, though at a remove. An atomic watch would be as the display would be quartz driven with the atomic bit regulating it.
Wow, that's quite a piece.
It's like the old longitudinal speedo in US cars!
Lovely to have a genuine piece of history, even if it is an evolutionary dead end. Put it with your Betamax video player and 3DFX graphics card.0 -
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I haven't contacted them. I must. The serial says 71, but their serial number system changed in the late 60's IIRC so things can get a bit funny after that. They didn't appear in any catalogues at the time that I can find and didn't seem to have been built in any great numbers.What year was the Longines made, did you contact them about it Wibbs?
Longines were part of the Swiss group which contained pretty much all the big names, Omega, Longines, Rolex, Patek and a dozen others who came up with the Beta 21 quartz movement by pooling resources because of the massive costs involved at the time. Beta 21's with Longines on the dial are even rarer again, rarer than even the Rolex ones(which are real beauties of case and strap design). I missed out on one a few years back for 800 quid. There was some bad blood among the other Beta 21 partners when Longines came out with the above UltraQuartz on their own and by surprise.
Probably the daftest movement ever squeezed into a watch case...
Tiny wires and components hand soldered in.
Girard Perregaux and JLC had gone their own way from the start and came up with the most successful and forward thinking of the Swiss quartz movements, half the price of the others, more accurate, more robust and the battery lasted over a year(if you get six months from the Longines you'd be lucky). On that note one of mine needed a new battery this very morn(Renata 344 for these and many other early quartz).
Job done. On wrist, ready for the day
Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Picked it up gradually over the years M. I have one of those memories where once something of interest to me goes in it tends to stay put, so that helps.
I have one of those memories too, Wibbs!
Unfortunately it was f all use being able to quote the Godfather word-for-word, when Paper 2 was asking about Juno and the Paycock and Othello
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Frankie5Angels wrote: »I have one of those memories too, Wibbs!
Unfortunately it was f all use being able to quote the Godfather word-for-word, when Paper 2 was asking about Juno and the Paycock and Othello
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Faffing about clearing crap in the garden. Semi stylishly. Well for me..
Early 50's Longines "tank" in 14Kt gold. Very good power reserve on this considering the size of the movement, a few days on a wind.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Since selling my Speedmaster I've been using my OP39 as a daily watch. Two things occur: 1. It's quite a formal watch for most occasions although I've managed to casualise it generally; and 2. It's going to get wrecked. Not that I'm Action Man or anything, but I know how I roll.
So I went on the hunt for a respectable daily beater, and found this which I picked up today from ex-Galway inhabitant Jordi of WatchesNorte in Spain. It's a 42mm version from 2007 and just serviced, polished, etc. on an Omega rubber strap. I only bought it as the price was (very) right.
Any thoughts?
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Fucking lovely. There's a thought for you F. Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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sparrowcar wrote: »
Great idea, I have a new strap for my speedy that will compliment the week that's in it, will post later.Mitch Buchannon wrote: »Speedmaster for me today. Special weekend for NASA.
I haven’t work this in a while. Picture taken this morning with its space pals.
SNIP
Not to everyone's taste I imagine but perfect for the week that's in it. Saw this band on Instagram and thought it looked class.
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I’ve never seen that combination but it doesn’t sound like it would be my cup of tea. Definitely wasn’t a heritage model?
I checked with him and he said the model No is A17392.
Today was battery change and seal lube day for my JP3050.
Took the opportunity to run the bracelet thru my wife's ultrasonic cleaner whilst I had it off too
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