RTE Investigates programme on greyhound racing industry

26-06-2019 9:47pm #1

RTÉ documentary this evening.

16000 greyhounds born every year in Ireland
5987 greyhounds are killed every year because they’re not fast enough.

Dept of Agriculture funds this farce

Your tax euros.

Dept of Agriculture can FOAD.

You’re not getting my tax euros anymore so stop fcking funding this industry. Change the fcking law now!

biko · 26-06-2019 9:48pm

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0626/1057535-greyhound-rte-investigates/
Source

strandroad · 26-06-2019 9:49pm

It's a truly horrible industry.

Someone posted elsewhere that the overall subsidy given to all animal rescue charities is a fraction of what is spent on this travesty of a "tradition".

It should be stopped ASAP but what is the best route?

26-06-2019 9:55pm

Please send your complaints to Department of Agriculture

Details at official Irish Government link below

Tell them to stop using your tax euros to fund this piece of bullsh1te officially called a “sport”

#Cleanupgreyhoundracing - In the meantime, please don’t attend a greyhound racing event until this is sorted.

Greyhound racing could be great, but not right now

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/customerservice/complaints/

26-06-2019 10:03pm

Piss boiling watching that :mad:

Greyhounds are a lovely dog but these lads and the industry are the real animals.

26-06-2019 10:05pm

“Export market to UK funded by the Department of Agriculture”

My tax euros.

FOAD DEPT OF AGRICULTURE.

mad muffin · 26-06-2019 10:07pm

Absolutely detest racing.

26-06-2019 10:13pm

“Britain in greyhound racing in decline”

“Occasions buck the trend- Clonmel bucks the trend- with coursing”

“Bantry, West Cork- hares captured here for coursing events elsewhere in Ireland”

“Greyhounds are part of coursing in Ireland”

All above from your national broadcaster RTÉ.

I haven’t mentioned people, including an ex Garda called “Murphy” who were involved in illegal coursing - watch the documentary yourself.

26-06-2019 10:17pm

What a disturbing programme on this minute. There appear to be huge numbers of "missing" greyhounds, with mass culling of "unsuccessful" greyhounds common.

Almost 6,000 greyhounds killed in Ireland every year, new RTÉ documentary reveals

Outside kennel and breeding deaths, officially since 2014 there have been 575 deaths of greyhounds at Irish race tracks since 2014. That's a huge number of animals killed at races. How can anybody justify that?

There's also a massive problem with drugs in the industry, and some "respectable" trainer in Athenry was raided and an enormous number of drugs and steroids were found on his premises. Many of the 'old school' trainers were talking about how drugs have destroyed the racing they loved.

Legally, according to the programme, greyhounds are classified under Irish law as farm animals along with horses. Accordingly, state funding for both greyhound racing and horse racing is ringfenced and the UCD academic said greyhound racing had a whopping €16 million in state funding last year for itself whereas Sports Ireland got €60 million to share between 60 competing sports. Hmmm. Was Charlie McCreevy the minister who gave them that? Given how generous he was with our taxes to the horse gambling industry, it wouldn't surprise me.

RTÉ: Thousands of greyhounds 'culled each year' for not being fast enough

RTÉ Investigates; Greyhounds running for their lives

Jelle1880 · 26-06-2019 10:18pm

It's a disgusting sport, the way these animals are treated if they don't succeed is horrible.

Wish it was shut down, but then no doubt we'd have the 'but it's part of our culture!' brigade protesting (I have heard that argument unfortunately)

InTheShadows · 26-06-2019 10:22pm

Not watching but i know full well the type of scumbags that partake in this "sport". Cess pit of humanity type people.

tritriagain · 26-06-2019 10:25pm

InTheShadows wrote: »

Not watching but i know full well the type of scumbags that partake in this "sport". Cess pit of humanity type people.

Bit of a generalisation there I think. I know plenty of fellas into it and the treat their dogs superbly.

angel eyes 2012 · 26-06-2019 10:28pm

tritriagain wrote: »

Bit of a generalisation there I think. I know plenty of fellas into it and the treat their dogs superbly.

What do these fellas do with all of the dogs that aren't fast enough?

Do they inform the Gardai if any of their colleagues unlawfully kill the dogs or worse, ship them to China?

dickangel · 26-06-2019 10:29pm

A harrowing watch. Particularly the footage detailing the dog's fate at the hands of the Chinese.

fryup · 26-06-2019 10:30pm

is hare coursing still legal?

InTheShadows · 26-06-2019 10:30pm

tritriagain wrote: »

Bit of a generalisation there I think. I know plenty of fellas into it and the treat their dogs superbly.

Could care less. They are part of the problem. The vast majority are scum end of.

26-06-2019 10:31pm

The Irish hare is fcking a national symbol

FOAD Department of Agriculture- take a long hard fcking look at yourself.

whisky_galore · 26-06-2019 10:31pm

The sooner this needlessly cruel, corruption riddled industry goes the way of dancing bears and bull baiting, the better.

The sight of an ould retired Guard at an illegal coursing meeting says it all about pillars of the community here. Hopefully younger generations won't indulge in this shyte.

26-06-2019 10:31pm

Some horrific stuff there in China

mad muffin · 26-06-2019 10:32pm

I didn’t watch it. I won’t watch it. Unfortunately I know too well what happens to these poor animals in the name of “sport”.

26-06-2019 10:32pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Some horrific stuff there in China

Yes- trying to capture as much as possible in this documentary as it happens but recommend watching again.

peasant · 26-06-2019 10:33pm

Horse racing ain't much different, just more prestigious

The Satanist · 26-06-2019 10:33pm

Disgusting "industry". What kind of absolute **** would want to be involved in that?

InTheShadows · 26-06-2019 10:33pm

dickangel wrote: »

A harrowing watch. Particularly the footage detailing the dogs fate at the hands of the Chinese.

Couldn't and wouldn't watch. There is a special place in hell for anyone who hurts animals dogs in particular.

InTheShadows · 26-06-2019 10:34pm

peasant wrote: »

Horse racing ain't much different, just more prestigious

This.

RTE won't do a show on that though i'd say too many special interest groupings.

angel eyes 2012 · 26-06-2019 10:35pm

mad muffin wrote: »

I didn’t watch it. I won’t watch it. Unfortunately I know too well what happens to these poor animals in the name of “sport”.

Ditto. I wouldn't be able to watch it, it breaks my heart.

dhaughton99 · 26-06-2019 10:35pm

Someone is making money and that’s all that matters.

26-06-2019 10:36pm

The Satanist wrote: »

Disgusting "industry". What kind of absolute **** would want to be involved in that?

Thanks for getting on by board- please also register your disgust with Dept. of Agriculture.

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/customerservice/complaints/

whisky_galore · 26-06-2019 10:38pm

InTheShadows wrote: »

This.

RTE won't do a show on that though i'd say too many special interest groupings.

Better off groupings. Not just paunchy lads with battered panel vans.

Wheety · 26-06-2019 10:38pm

So many scumbags in this industry.

c.p.w.g.w · 26-06-2019 10:40pm

That is one of the most upsetting thing I've seen in a while. The very last scene with the dog dying in the doorway, was me feeling sick.

yop · 26-06-2019 10:40pm

Pigs running them companies, should have a bullet in their own head.
Dept of Agriculture should shut them down, end of. Sound like a bunch of people with the IQ of a potatoe!!

I'm disgusted and angry at them dirty fkers.

dudara · 26-06-2019 10:41pm

Thread moved from AH > CA and merged with existing thread on same topic.

dudara

Pythagorean · 26-06-2019 10:43pm

The Chinese actually boiled a greyhound alive in a big cooking pot. Utterly horrific.

26-06-2019 10:44pm

dudara wrote: »

Thread moved from AH > CA and merged with existing thread on same topic.

dudara

Thanks for getting on by board- please also register your disgust with Dept. of Agriculture.

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/custo...ce/complaints/

Gringo180 · 26-06-2019 10:44pm

InTheShadows wrote: »

Couldn't and wouldn't watch. There is a special place in hell for anyone who hurts animals dogs in particular.

Your man that was estimated to have killed 10000 dogs and buried them in mass graves on his land got a few hundred pounds fine. My god.

pheasant tail · 26-06-2019 10:46pm

But they are bred for that purpose, wouldn’t have had a chance of life without it. But they wouldn’t be here if we didn’t do this. But they are used for food. But they had good lives before they where killed. But they didn’t feel anything when they where shot. But it’s legal so it can’t be that bad. But they aren’t as smart or don’t have emotions like us. All common arguments made by people in after hours arguing against veganism, said by people who still use and eat animals. Hypocrisy is sad!

Jane98 · 26-06-2019 10:48pm

I feel sick after watching the program.

c.p.w.g.w · 26-06-2019 10:48pm

I've tears in my eyes and ball of anger in my stomach now.

That last scene and the some of those scenes from China boiling the poor greyhounds alive, barbaric sh!t

mvl · 26-06-2019 10:48pm

very sad, and this needs to be stopped.
- while I can't know too much about the Irish tradition on this (I would never go to dog races neither), I assume the government could introduce/enforce extremely harsh penalties for ppl who are treating cruel these beautiful animals.
anyone knows if there is any public petition going on ?

26-06-2019 10:48pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Thanks for getting on by board- please also register your disgust with Dept. of Agriculture.

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/customerservice/complaints/

That link is to “quality services “ and “appeals” .....I’m not sure if that’s the correct place to log complaints about the greyhound business in Ireland? The emails could all get dumped rather than redirected?

fryup · 26-06-2019 10:50pm

Pythagorean wrote: »

The Chinese actually boiled a greyhound alive in a big cooking pot. Utterly horrific.

what else do you expect from a country that uses "Rhino Horn" as a aphrodisiac

c.p.w.g.w · 26-06-2019 10:50pm

pheasant tail wrote: »

But they are bred for that purpose, wouldn’t have had a chance of life without it. But they wouldn’t be here if we didn’t do this. But they are used for food. But they had good lives before they where killed. But they didn’t feel anything when they where shot. But it’s legal so it can’t be that bad. But they aren’t as smart or don’t have emotions like us. All common arguments made by people in after hours arguing against veganism, said by people who still use and eat animals. Hypocrisy is sad!

Yeah boiling an animal alive is the same as humanely killing them.

Sittingpretty · 26-06-2019 10:50pm

It takes a special kind of psychopath to sit in your car, engine running waiting for your €10 collar while in your wing mirror your dog is still shaking on the ground after being shot In the head.

26-06-2019 10:52pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Yeah boiling an animal alive is the same as humanely killing them.

I think the original post by “pheasant tail” was being ironic ? I think we’re all on the same page here .

theoneeyedman · 26-06-2019 10:54pm

peasant wrote: »

Horse racing ain't much different, just more prestigious

This.

I'm always very uneasy about the lining the pockets of wealthy horse owners and bookmakers with 2 racing industries subsidised with tax payers money. While there are some (relatively low paid) jobs for stable hands and the likes, the whols thing is propped up with grants and drives a huge gambling industry..... for instance, in what other sport is the betting odds constantly referred to on the main news broadcasts?

It's plain wrong from a human point of view first and foremost, without ever looking at the obvious animal welfare issues. Should be left behind, along with elephants and lions in the circus

Muahahaha · 26-06-2019 10:54pm

That was a hard watch, the entire industry is corrupt to fcuk and all funded by the Dept of Agriculture in the name of 'sport'

technocrat · 26-06-2019 10:54pm

A truly horrific watch!
I would love to see a movement grow that involves peaceful protests outside the main dog tracks in the country to highlight the disgusting treatment of these poor animals.
It might finally force the IGB to take action.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 26-06-2019 10:54pm

I went to the dogs for the first time for a communion party last month. Everyone was like “Oh, it’s such craic, you’ll love it!”. It was hugely boring and all I could think about was the welfare of the dogs. Rightfully as it turns out. The fretting fed into my non-enjoyment, to be honest. I just couldn’t.

Greyhounds are dotes too.

anewme · 26-06-2019 10:55pm

Do not support this industry.

Do not attend any fundraisers / hen parties/ office parties that promote a night at the dogs.

Speak out.

Our office suggested it as a night out - about 10 ppl had a very strong objection...that was the end of that.

selectamatic · 26-06-2019 10:55pm

A very sad watch. Life is cheap in the greyhound world and this is the result.

peasant wrote: »

Horse racing ain't much different, just more prestigious

That's very disingenuous to say. The treatment of race horses and thoroughbreds is widely acknowledged as being top notch. Especially in this country.

There are also many outlets for horses who may not be of grade 1,2 or 3 competing quality. Be it handicap racing or indeed show jumping or other such ventures.

Greyhounds don't have this going for them with the result that they can move from being an asset to being viewed as a hindrance very quickly.

When you see abuse cases involving horses you'll generally find it's not the thoroughbreds or 3/4 breds being abused but rather the piebalds favoured by the more unsavoury characters.

RTE Investigates programme on greyhound racing industry

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