Ana Kriegel - Boys A & B found guilty [Mod: Do NOT post identifying information]

Sardonicat · 20-06-2019 12:06PM

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

And then I wonder about the semen. The semen was found on her top.

You'd have thought the clothes would be ripped off first, or else he used to top to wipe it but...I dunno.

Her clothes were ripped off her.

Standman · 20-06-2019 12:10PM

CityRoad wrote: »

An Eimear Cotter article on the 20 May 2019 Irish Independent talks about the DNA evidence and the unknown DNA, I cannot post a link because I am new.

I do not know what the parents of Boy A did, my friend did not tell me, and the local parents wanted this to be brought to court, we only discussed the case in how it related to her child. Her child was one of their targets in the first half of the year.

If this third set of DNA indicates a third person, the boys are still lying.

It does indicate a third person, but that means nothing. The third person could be one of her parents, a friend, anyone she came into contact with.

SirGerryAdams · 20-06-2019 12:12PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

Her clothes were ripped off her.

I know but would be odd to rip them off after he had finished.

20-06-2019 12:13PM

inthehat wrote: »

Driving through town last night I saw scores of young people dolled up obviously heading out to celebrate end of exams. Mini skirts, make -up. fake tan etc (no prob with that, I did it all myself to some extent in my day ).

But all the girls looked like clones of each other. Same long poker straight hair, same daft eye-brows, same fake colour from top to toe. I just thought how hard it must be for a girl to be even remotely different. It's like a rite of passage - "we must all conform ".

The guys all looked like themselves, just well spruced-up.

Probably off topic but most young lads like the exact same as each other now too. Black runners, dark shorts or trackies, no socks and maybe a bubble jacket. Then that noodle hair or a fade cut. Clones.

Hurrache · 20-06-2019 12:14PM

In the rush to identify the boys on the internet, so as often happens, the information of an innocent boy has been circulated as being one of the 2.

SirGerryAdams · 20-06-2019 12:17PM

Hurrache wrote: »

In the rush to identify the boys on the internet, so as often happens, the information of an innocent boy has been circulated as being one of the 2.

No it hasn't. It's no different to some guy called Paddy Jackson being accused of being a rapist.

gozunda · 20-06-2019 12:17PM

dickangel wrote: »

Which is the question I asked last night.

Ditto

tuxy · 20-06-2019 12:18PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Probably off topic but most young lads like the exact same as each other now too. Black runners, dark shorts or trackies, no socks and maybe a bubble jacket. Then that noodle hair or a fade cut. Clones.

Hasn't it been like this for every generation? When you are young and part of that generation it's the subtle differences that stand out but to everyone else you all look the same.

MrMusician18 · 20-06-2019 12:19PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

None of that means a thing/or comes to light if he doesnt talk.
They only have him on CCTV and an eye witness who saw him. Thats it.
Far far far from a murder conviction. Miles away.

There is absolutely no way boy b would've seen the inside of a courtroom had he kept his mouth shut. His own words was really all they had on him - hence why they played 16hrs of his interviews in the court, it's usually only edited transcripts that appear in court.

While I'm glad they were convinced, you'd have to wonder what kind of counsel he was getting. Not a great advertisement for their services anyway.

Hurrache · 20-06-2019 12:19PM

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

No it hasn't. It's no different to some guy called Paddy Jackson being accused of being a rapist.

So the court has been lied to?

As for your second sentence, what a bizarre comparison, off the wall.

brendanwalsh · 20-06-2019 12:23PM

Asked a few times but didn't get an answer. It was mentioned on reddit

Did boy a parents try to get him out of the country?

SirGerryAdams · 20-06-2019 12:24PM

Hurrache wrote: »

So the court has been lied to?

As for your second sentence, what a bizarre comparison, off the wall.

I don't see it in any articles?

Anyone who wants to know what the two rats look like will find it. The photos going around are correct.

Grayson · 20-06-2019 12:25PM

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

No it hasn't. It's no different to some guy called Paddy Jackson being accused of being a rapist.

It's completly different.

dickangel · 20-06-2019 12:25PM

Hurrache wrote: »

In the rush to identify the boys on the internet, so as often happens, the information of an innocent boy has been circulated as being one of the 2.

Was always going to happen. People are genuinely stupid, "wE HavE a RiGht to KnoW" as they endanger an innocent kid.

SirGerryAdams · 20-06-2019 12:27PM

dickangel wrote: »

Was always going to happen. People are genuinely stupid, "wE HavE a RiGht to KnoW" as they endanger an innocent kid.

How can they endanger an innocent kid when the scum are detained?

Standman · 20-06-2019 12:28PM

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

I don't see it in any articles?

...

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2019/0620/1056478-kriegel-case-court/

"The judge also said he was shocked to hear that an innocent child had been wrongfully identified on social media as being one of the two convicted boys and that a school had been targeted as well."

Hurrache · 20-06-2019 12:29PM

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

I don't see it in any articles?

And yet you jumped in with both feet to tell me I'm wrong and made some crazy comparison with the Paddy Jackson case.

dickangel · 20-06-2019 12:29PM

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

How can they endanger an innocent kid when the scum are detained?

This was point was made yesterday, why share any pic at all then? You can't get to them. It's to recognise them when they do get out. You really don't see any danger in it?

tuxy · 20-06-2019 12:29PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

While I'm glad they were convinced, you'd have to wonder what kind of counsel he was getting. Not a great advertisement for their services anyway.

You have no idea what legal advice he got and if he actually followed the advice.

20-06-2019 12:29PM

dickangel wrote: »

Was always going to happen. People are genuinely stupid, "wE HavE a RiGht to KnoW" as they endanger an innocent kid.

You would think that people are clued in enough to realise that any kid they're going to harm is the wrong one on account of the guilty party being in Oberstown and all.... but then again people are absolute morons so you're probably right.

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 20-06-2019 12:30PM

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

How can they endanger an innocent kid when the scum are detained?

Because some of this mob mentality crowd aren't terribly bright.

Hurrache · 20-06-2019 12:31PM

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

How can they endanger an innocent kid when the scum are detained?

Just look back at this thread, "OMG they'll be out after 2 weeks, they'll be given new identities" and all such stupidity, much of it evident in this thread alone. I'm sure the innocent boy wasn't hatched from an egg either so he'll have family.

freshpopcorn · 20-06-2019 12:31PM

tayto lover wrote: »

In our local Youthreach the youngsters have to hand in their phones in the morning. They are put in an envelope with their names on it, kept locked in a locked press in the office and not returned until classes end.
Anyone caught with a phone in their possession having failed to hand it in is suspended and their parents notified.
I think this is a good system.

I've seen this and similar in play over the years.
Most just handed in a second phone.
Unless things have changed drastically in the last few years.
The person in charge honestly believed it worked and they hadn't much of a clue what was going on.

20-06-2019 12:31PM

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

How can they endanger an innocent kid when the scum are detained?

Because people are idiots. A pediatrician was attacked in the UK because imbeciles thought she was a ''pedo''

Grayson · 20-06-2019 12:31PM

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

How can they endanger an innocent kid when the scum are detained?

Because people are fcuking stupid.

Suckit · 20-06-2019 12:33PM

What was the story with Boy B's phone(s)?
He 'lost' them?

iamwhoiam · 20-06-2019 12:34PM

Suckit wrote: »

What was the story with Boy B's phone(s)?
He 'lost' them?

So he said . Can we believe him ?

dickangel · 20-06-2019 12:34PM

Omackeral wrote: »

You would think that people are clued in enough to realise that any kid they're going to harm is the wrong one on account of the guilty party being in Oberstown and all.... but then again people are absolute morons so you're probably right.

Even still, there's a chance of them being recognised in the future. Similar to the Bulger case, there's people that have dedicated a lot of time into identifying them from their pics as kids. All's it takes is for one clown to pull up the pic of the innocent kid and put 2 and 2 together and get 5.

Not to mention how stressful and upsetting it must be for the innocent kid.

20-06-2019 12:34PM

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

How can they endanger an innocent kid when the scum are detained?

Priscilla Mushy Banner wrote: »

Because some of this mob mentality crowd aren't terribly bright.

Grayson wrote: »

Because people are fcuking stupid.

Read this and you'll get your answer

Self-styled vigilantes attacked the home of a hospital paediatrician after apparently confusing her professional title with the word "paedophile", it emerged yesterday.
Dr Yvette Cloete, a specialist registrar in paediatric medicine at the Royal Gwent hospital in Newport, was forced to flee her house after vandals daubed it with graffiti in the middle of the night.

The word "paedo" was written across the front porch and door of the house she shared with her brother in the village of St Brides, south Wales.

SirGerryAdams · 20-06-2019 12:35PM

dickangel wrote: »

This was point was made yesterday, why share any pic at all then? You can't get to them. It's to recognise them when they do get out. You really don't see any danger in it?

Well expecting people not to want to see what they look like is never going to happen.

Ana Kriegel - Boys A & B found guilty [Mod: Do NOT post identifying information]

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