Are you taking part in any LGBTQ events for pride month?

ohnonotgmail · 14-06-2019 11:36AM

Hedgelayer wrote: »

I know some gay guy's love expressing their deviant side in public and their bizarre fetishism and the whole what I think is the dark side of the scene.

Call me old fashioned or whatever but there's a lot of gay men who have no interest in this behaviour of Sodom and Gomorrah like expression in public.

They're different to us, they love filth and what they call pig play, and some of them actually eat ****, yes I'm serious.
I was on a dating site and last week some dude told me that he likes eating ****,and guys pissing on him....

This kind of behaviour is sick in my eyes, but dare you say you don't like it and youre not liberated etc...

Give me an evening on a surfboard or out on a chartered shark fishing exhibition....
Cutting timber with a chainsaw.....

Oh I'm glad I'm no part of the deviant scene......

you know that fetish isn't gay specific, right? Straight people do it too.

sbsquarepants · 14-06-2019 11:37AM

Deleted User wrote: »

If a gay person called you a queer you have no issue with it but if a straight person said it you would?

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that isn't what i said. I made it very clear. try to actually read posts before responding.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I have no issue with the Q. the issue is have is straight people using it against me.

:rolleyes:

ohnonotgmail · 14-06-2019 11:38AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

:rolleyes:

i thought you were leaving?

14-06-2019 11:38AM

ohnonotgmail wrote:

that isn't what i said. I made it very clear. try to actually read posts before responding.

I read what you said. You said you have an issue with straight people using the word against you, to the point where you would react violently. I asked if you have an issue with non straight people using the word and would you react the same?

jimgoose · 14-06-2019 11:40AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you know that fetish isn't gay specific, right? Straight people do it too.

This is well understood. I have exactly the same view of straight people displaying it in public.

SusieBlue · 14-06-2019 11:40AM

Hedgelayer wrote: »

I know some gay guy's love expressing their deviant side in public and their bizarre fetishism and the whole what I think is the dark side of the scene.

Call me old fashioned or whatever but there's a lot of gay men who have no interest in this behaviour of Sodom and Gomorrah like expression in public.

They're different to us, they love filth and what they call pig play, and some of them actually eat ****, yes I'm serious.
I was on a dating site and last week some dude told me that he likes eating ****,and guys pissing on him....

This kind of behaviour is sick in my eyes, but dare you say you don't like it and youre not liberated etc...

Give me an evening on a surfboard or out on a chartered shark fishing exhibition....
Cutting timber with a chainsaw.....

Oh I'm glad I'm no part of the deviant scene......

Fetishes are not confined to gay people. I think you'd be surprised at some of the kinks that many straight people have, most fetish websites are more heavily populated by heterosexuals.

For what its worth, as with fetishes for all sexual orientations, they only represent a very niche portion of the general population.
Most people, both gay and straight, are pretty vanilla.
That doesn't make those with preferences and fetishes deviants and it doesn't make them "sick".
Its kind of baffling as to why your so concerned with and appalled by what consenting adults get up to in the bedroom.

ohnonotgmail · 14-06-2019 11:40AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I read what you said. You said you have an issue with straight people using the word against you, to the point where you would react violently. I asked if you have an issue with non straight people using the word and would you react the same?

it depends on context. the only straight people that would call me queer are people i dont know and they would not be saying it for fun. I've never had a gay person call me queer. why would they?

ohnonotgmail · 14-06-2019 11:41AM

jimgoose wrote: »

This is well understood. I have exactly the same view of straight people displaying it in public.

I dont think anybody wants to see **** eating in public.

14-06-2019 11:47AM

ohnonotgmail wrote:

it depends on context. the only straight people that would call me queer are people i dont know and they would not be saying it for fun. I've never had a gay person call me queer. why would they?

Grand.

Just so I know, as a straight white man, what other words, which are in common usage for others, are forbidden for me?

I'd hate to get violently attacked for misspeaking.

sbsquarepants · 14-06-2019 11:48AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i thought you were leaving?

I was going to but then you start making such a tit of yourself I couldn't stop watching!:D

SusieBlue · 14-06-2019 11:51AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Grand.

Just so I know, as a straight white man, what other words, which are in common usage for others, are forbidden for me?

I'd hate to get violently attacked for misspeaking.

Is it really a big ask or inconvenience for you not to use a word which has historically been used in a homophobic and derogatory manner?

Its a word that has potential to cause offense, why would you risk using it when you mean no harm, unless your intention is to actually cause offense?

jimgoose · 14-06-2019 11:52AM

SusieBlue wrote: »

Is it really a big ask or inconvenience for you not to use a word which has historically been used in a homophobic and derogatory manner?

Its a word that has potential to cause offense, why would you risk using it when you mean no harm, unless your intention is to actually cause offense?

'Kin right. Especially when you could get a thump over it. :pac:

14-06-2019 11:54AM

SusieBlue wrote:

Is it really a big ask or inconvenience for you not to use a word which has historically been used in a homophobic and derogatory manner?

Yes. It's hard to talk about all matters lbgtq if you aren't allowed use the word queer. The word is used as a description of a section of your community.

It's not like Black Lives Matter called them **** Lives Matter.

Der Stier · 14-06-2019 11:57AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I have no issue with the Q. the issue is have is straight people using it against me. Much like black people calling each other n*gga but not liking when outsiders do the same to them. It is rarely coming from a good place.

Black people don't like the word "nigger"

Big difference to the word "nigga" ...

SusieBlue · 14-06-2019 11:57AM

jimgoose wrote: »

'Kin right. Especially when you could get a thump over it. :pac:

Its a word that has historically been used to insult, intimidate, demean and persecute gay people. I would be offended if it was said to me too.

Anyone with a bit of social awareness wouldn't risk using it, even with good intentions, as they know it could hurt or offend someone.

Then you have people on this thread bemoaning the fact that its not socially acceptable to say it, and what other words are they not allowed use, as if its some massive inconvenience???

A dose of cop on wouldn't go amiss here.

SusieBlue · 14-06-2019 11:58AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes. It's hard to talk about all matters lbgtq if you aren't allowed use the word queer. The word is used as a description of a section of your community.

It's not like Black Lives Matter called them **** Lives Matter.

For a start I'm not even gay, so its not my community. I just try to treat people with the respect I expect myself.

Its a word that has potential to cause offense and upset. It won't kill you not to use it.

ohnonotgmail · 14-06-2019 11:59AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes. It's hard to talk about all matters lbgtq if you aren't allowed use the word queer. The word is used as a description of a section of your community.

It's not like Black Lives Matter called them **** Lives Matter.

nobody said you cant use the word queer. You just have, i dont care. stop being so melodramatic. and they call me a drama queen.

ohnonotgmail · 14-06-2019 12:00PM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I was going to but then you start making such a tit of yourself I couldn't stop watching!:D

good man.

14-06-2019 12:01PM

SusieBlue wrote:

For a start I'm not even gay, so its not my community. I just try to treat people with the respect I expect myself.

I wasn't responding to you. I treat people with the level of respect I deem that they deserve.

SusieBlue wrote:

Its a word that has potential to cause offense and upset. It won't kill you not to use it.

Any word can offend Susie.

14-06-2019 12:04PM

SusieBlue wrote:

Then you have people on this thread bemoaning the fact that its not socially acceptable to say it, and what other words are they not allowed use, as if its some massive inconvenience???

I never bemoaned it. I said that it is inconvenient to talk about queer folk when the word queer is offensive to some gay people (and you as well apparently for some reason).

My only issue was that the poster said he would violently lash out at someone for name calling yet hypocritically has is outraged when someone reacts violently against people he aligns with politically or socially.

Violence is violence.

kunst nugget · 14-06-2019 12:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Any word can offend Susie.

Really? I've always found huge swathes of the English language to be completely inoffensive. I must be using it wrong...

14-06-2019 12:06PM

ohnonotgmail wrote:

nobody said you cant use the word queer. You just have, i dont care. stop being so melodramatic. and they call me a drama queen.

Nice deflection. Don't call me a drama queen. I find it offensive.

DrPhilG · 14-06-2019 12:06PM

Calling someone queer, gay, homo, fag, nigg@r, bitch, c#*t or any other term that either could be derogatory or definitely is derogatory, is bad form and you are either stupid and lacking in awareness, or you're a prick.

Punching someone for calling you one of things is also bad form. Only difference is that you don't have the option of just being stupid lacking awareness. You're simply a prick.

SusieBlue · 14-06-2019 12:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I wasn't responding to you. I treat people with the level of respect I deem that they deserve.

Any word can offend Susie.

You were responding to me, you quoted my post.

Any word can offend, but there are certain words which have been specifically used in a derogatory manner over a sustained period of time that anyone with a bit of social awareness would avoid.
Anyone who claims to be using these innocently is most certainly provoking for a reaction, because anyone with an ounce of cop on wouldn't use them.

OrangeBadger · 14-06-2019 12:06PM

In regards to the parade, what is the general consensus off the majority of the community to the few over the top floats?

I was in Dublin during pride in 2016 and saw one float which consisted of a load of guys in underware making out with each other. Fine in a nightclub or at a party later but in the middle off the day in the center of Dublin, bit rank.

And yes I would feel the exact same way if it was a bunch of semi naked women acting like tramps in the middle of the day.

The rest of the parade which I saw was good, lots of colour/music/creativity

14-06-2019 12:07PM

kunst nugget wrote:

Really? I've always found huge swathes of the English language to be completely inoffensive. I must be using it wrong...

Yes. Really. What you find inoffensive can be freakishly offensive to another.

14-06-2019 12:08PM

SusieBlue wrote:

You were responding to me, you quoted my post.

My apologies Susie. I genuinely thought I was responding to someone else. My bad.

SusieBlue · 14-06-2019 12:09PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I never bemoaned it. I said that it is inconvenient to talk about queer folk when the word queer is offensive to some gay people (and you as well apparently for some reason).

My only issue was that the poster said he would violently lash out at someone for name calling yet hypocritically has is outraged when someone reacts violently against people he aligns with politically or socially.

Violence is violence.

It doesn't offend me. I know it has potential to offend other people so I don't use it. It isn't a massive inconvenience to not include it in my vocabulary, its not a massive sacrifice, so I don't understand why others here are acting like its their God given right to use it.

Anyone using language like that is provoking for a reaction because anyone with a bit of cop on wouldn't risk offending someone.
I don't believe anyone who uses it has innocent intentions.

kunst nugget · 14-06-2019 12:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes. Really. What you find inoffensive can be freakishly offensive to another.

Can you give me examples outside the norm? Is the word 'cylinder' freakishly offensive to anyone? Cloud? Spindle?

14-06-2019 12:15PM

kunst nugget wrote:

Can you give me examples outside the norm? Is the word 'cylinder' freakishly offensive to anyone? Cloud? Spindle?

That's the thing, offense is a personal feeling, specific to the individual. So yeah, probably.

Are you taking part in any LGBTQ events for pride month?

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