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charolais0153 · 05-06-2019 12:00AM

Robson99 wrote: »

Would Maize and Citrus pulp say 60:40 be good enough to finish cattle at grass ... say 5kgs /head /day for 6/7 weeks

A trial showed citrus pulp to be very similar to rolled barley

Bass Reeves · 05-06-2019 12:13AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

A trial showed citrus pulp to be very similar to rolled barley

The problem is the sugar content with grass. it is grand with silage or in winter feeding ration which are mostly starch based but it is not a great fibre source for grass. Hulls have a similar feed value to barley as well there figures are as below

Barley 85%DM, 13.1ME, 12.2%P, 56% starch 2% sugars
Citrus 89%DM 12.2ME, 6.5%P 0.2% starch, 25% sugars
Hulls 89% DM, 11.9 ME, 11.6%P, 5% starch, 8% sugars
Maize 88% DM, 14.$ME, 9.5%P 68% starch 2% sugars

As the carnival owner near enough but no cigar

charolais0153 · 05-06-2019 12:17AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

The problem is the sugar content with grass. it is grand with silage or in winter feeding ration which are mostly starch based but it is not a great fibre source for grass. Hulls have a similar feed value to barley as well there figures are as below

Barley 85%DM, 13.1ME, 12.2%P, 56% starch 2% sugars
Citrus 89%DM 12.2ME, 6.5%P 0.2% starch, 25% sugars
Hulls 89% DM, 11.9 ME, 11.6%P, 5% starch, 8% sugars
Maize 88% DM, 14.$ME, 9.5%P 68% starch 2% sugars

As the carnival owner near enough but no cigar

What does the high sugar content do? Scour them?

Bass Reeves · 05-06-2019 12:28AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

What does the high sugar content do? Scour them?

There is sugar in grass already, this time of year sugars in grasses are very high. This is one reason why even though DM in grass is quite high cattle remain loose. The whole point of feeding a fibre source is to slow down the rumen so as toget as much of the ration digested as possible. If you fed Barley or Maize by itself you would see large amounts coming through in the dung. In such situations you will see crows picking at the dung. The hull slow down the rumen, citrus pulp adds fuel to the fire. It was a nutritionist that explained it to me.

whelan2 · 07-06-2019 11:14AM

13 year old pb AA cow. 406.9kg r5 €3/kg €1220

locha · 08-06-2019 06:11PM

Getting quoted 3.85 base for steers this week with the 420kg cut off to be enforced. Hearing there will be another 5c off week after next. Hopefully not...

gerryirl · 08-06-2019 07:26PM

locha wrote: »

Getting quoted 3.85 base for steers this week with the 420kg cut off to be enforced. Hearing there will be another 5c off week after next. Hopefully not...

Jasus that not good. This cut off thing is some joke. They just move the goal posts to suit themselves. One week no word it then bang its on the next week

Cavanjack · 08-06-2019 11:33PM

gerryirl wrote: »

Jasus that not good. This cut off thing is some joke. They just move the goal posts to suit themselves. One week no word it then bang its on the next week

Doesn’t bode well for the autumn and winter when they are being fussy about weights in June. Although things don’t always go as expected. I’m listening since last November that numbers will have to drop soon. They still haven’t. Maybe with all the extra bulls that were finished this winter it’ll leave steer numbers more scarce come the autumn.

DaDerv · 09-06-2019 12:33AM

Booked in bull's for next week at 3.75. No weight cut. Disappointing considering it was 3.85 a few weeks back and looking to go towards 4e base. Think it's only going to go backwards for the foreseeable so I'm cutting my loses now.

Dickie10 · 09-06-2019 09:42PM

if you have heifers fit for the factory now should i send them or would they need feeding? there covered with fat already? like i can grab fat between my fingers in the tailhead /pin bone. that should be fat enough?

Danzy · 09-06-2019 09:58PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

if you have heifers fit for the factory now should i send them or would they need feeding? there covered with fat already? like i can grab fat between my fingers in the tailhead /pin bone. that should be fat enough?

If they are fit , they are fit.

Make sure they are, if in doubt get someone to look over them, it will pay.

Cavanjack · 09-06-2019 10:27PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

if you have heifers fit for the factory now should i send them or would they need feeding? there covered with fat already? like i can grab fat between my fingers in the tailhead /pin bone. that should be fat enough?

Put up a picture of them and you’ll not be long being told but yeah if they are fit they are fit

Dickie10 · 10-06-2019 09:10PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Put up a picture of them and you’ll not be long being told but yeah if they are fit they are fit

Here’s a pic

Dickie10 · 10-06-2019 09:11PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

Here’s a pic

That’s the first picture I ever managed to upload

Dickie10 · 10-06-2019 09:15PM

Here another

Danzy · 10-06-2019 09:16PM

Nice looking animal and the field looks like cracking ground.

From the photo I think she has a good bit to go.

Danzy · 10-06-2019 09:18PM

Same with the Belgian, it would be hard to get her over fat.

Great looking animal there as well. She could put up a power of weight yet.

If you don't need the cash hold off is my over the net advice.

I'm doing that with animals that look similar.

Dickie10 · 10-06-2019 10:32PM

sound thanks lads , i would usually start those types with meal at grass from now on starting on 2kg up to 5kg for 6-8 weeks. would i need all that with those angus types?

blue5000 · 11-06-2019 09:17AM

Got 3.70/kg for R grade 23 month bulls. Waiting a while to kill them tbh.

memorystick · 11-06-2019 09:40AM

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/wanted-overfat-hiefers/21496734

Where was he when I needed him!!

Gawddawggonnit · 11-06-2019 09:43AM

blue5000 wrote: »

Got 3.70/kg for R grade 23 month bulls. Waiting a while to kill them tbh.

Offered €3.41/kg for R grade 15-16 month bulls...

visatorro · 11-06-2019 02:07PM

blue5000 wrote: »

Got 3.70/kg for R grade 23 month bulls. Waiting a while to kill them tbh.

Will Fr bulls get into an R?

DaDerv · 11-06-2019 02:22PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Offered €3.41/kg for R grade 15-16 month bulls...

Jesus that's very low? 3.75 I have was for R's. They are all U's so I'd be expecting the bonus on top of that with the QA as well.

blue5000 · 11-06-2019 04:35PM

DaDerv wrote: »

Jesus that's very low? 3.75 I have was for R's. They are all U's so I'd be expecting the bonus on top of that with the QA as well.

That's France,

Hard to know with fresians whether they grade R or not, heard of some killed in Ennis recently that did grade R, sold on a flat price though:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Danzy · 11-06-2019 05:05PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

sound thanks lads , i would usually start those types with meal at grass from now on starting on 2kg up to 5kg for 6-8 weeks. would i need all that with those angus types?

The Anguses can go over fat in a short time, and at times off grass, especially butty ones.

I've only built up to 3 or4 kgs for heifers, more that that on good grass I felt was them replacing good grass with dear but.

Bass Reeves · 11-06-2019 06:30PM

blue5000 wrote: »

That's France,

Hard to know with fresians whether they grade R or not, heard of some killed in Ennis recently that did grade R, sold on a flat price though:rolleyes::rolleyes:

No grading machine in Ennis unless it has changef. If carcasses are being sold whole by the grade that where the twist is made. What flat price did he get.

For Friesian to grade into R's they want to be hitting 400 kg liveweight with good confirmation

SuperTortoise · 11-06-2019 09:19PM

I can't even get a quote this week or for next week either, you put out your bollox rearing top quality bulls and heifers and then your left to beg to try and get them in, what a shower.

Fine Day · 11-06-2019 09:57PM

SuperTortoise wrote: »

I can't even get a quote this week or for next week either, you put out your bollox rearing top quality bulls and heifers and then your left to beg to try and get them in, what a shower.

Was quoted 3.95 for heifers & 3.85 for bullocks yesterday by 2 factories. 1 said be end of month before they could take them. One would often wonder do they increase the price for a Few weeks to get guys excited then cut them back week by week so guys would sell off in fear. They are some shower. Same every year. Surely with all the dairy stock now the carcasses are smaller with less beef.

sonnybill · 11-06-2019 11:05PM

Any prices for suckler culls R’s?

Dunedin · 12-06-2019 05:35PM

sonnybill wrote: »

Any prices for suckler culls R’s?

I got €3.30 last week but no idea if different this week.

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