Doonbeg Begorragh!

06-06-2019 10:25AM

stoneill wrote: »

I'm not a Donald Trump fan.
However, respect the office, not the man, he is the president of the USA and the president deserves the honour.
Donald Trump as a man does not deserve the honour.

This attitude is a recipe for tyranny. The US has committed many, many war crimes. Between 1965 and 1968, for instance, the president of the United States authorised more bombs to be dropped over Vietnam than had been dropped by all sides in the entirety of World War 2. All sides. This included enormous amounts of chemical as part of its "deforestation" programme, chemicals which are still producing deformed children there.

Under no circumstances could any ethical human being respect a position which allowed such abject barbarism and inhumanity. To refuse to criticise the occupant of such a position merely because people have a need to respect the position has permitted all sorts of horrors in history.

06-06-2019 10:25AM

Hedgelayer wrote: »

I'll be adding his portrait on my wall beside JFK and Pope John Paul

Move aside Mother Teresa.

Deebles McBeebles · 06-06-2019 10:31AM

martingriff wrote: »

Where have I said they are decent people. Please quote me. I think the Trumps are idiots plus more beside but be banned if wrote it.

We agree on that then Martin.

martingriff wrote: »

Does not matter if you boss is famous or not the comparison still stands as you agree you would smile and take everything.

It matters a lot IMO. My boss doesn't openly hate people of certain backgrounds.

martingriff wrote: »

As for going on radio what else do you expect them to do when the radio want you on air.

Say something a bit better than ah sher they're good lads, one of them gave me a pint begod, too rah loo rah laaaaa...its embarrassing.

martingriff wrote: »

I hate Trump but let's get real here what people are doing is shaking hands and kissing babies metaphorically to make sure the goods stay and I have no problem with that

There are always more goods. What we should really be asking is what are our own government doing for rural people, F all. So we have to rely on the likes of Trump to save our small communities? I despair.

Mrsmum · 06-06-2019 10:35AM

joe40 wrote: »

I was under the impression Doon beg was a business where an employer pays employees for their service. Is it actually some kind of charity set up to help Doonbbeg.
It is perfectly possible for a local community to welcome an important employer with a bit of dignity and self respect without the nonsense in Doonbeg.
One publican compared it to the night Clare beating Kerry in the 1992 Munster final. There must be some Doonbeg residents embarrassed by that spectacle.

It isn't a charity, that doesn't mean they are not very grateful for it all the same.

Are we really at that stage now, where we are policing how people enjoy themselves.

IAMAMORON · 06-06-2019 10:41AM

mcmoustache wrote: »

That's a claim made by Trump but like a lot of things that he says, it tends not to be true. Not having a go but sometimes members of the public take him at his word and repeat his claims as fact.

Yeah, regardless of who is president, we sort of have to just suck it up. We do it for all of them and it is important for us to maintain a good relationship, regardless of who holds the office. We're a small country and need more from them than they do from us.

He'll be gone in a day and it's not like his talk of Brexit and the border will be taken seriously by anyone.

And as much as it pains me to say it, I admire his charity. The golf course loses around a million a year and yet he still pays a few hundred staff in the village. If he was a profit-orientated businessman, he might pull out but instead he chooses to keep the village afloat. Credit where it's due.

This is fake news. The graph you have posted shows the percentage rise in the US economy under Obama as opposed to Trump.

Obama became President at the bottom of the crash, hence the 61 % growth, things only could get better after that point.

I am not going to get into a graph relativity war with you, but your post is not real and only suiting your own agenda, a waste of time.

RobertKK · 06-06-2019 10:44AM

Trump should come more often, he upsets the right people.
I was looking back at previous US presidential visits, before this we had President Obama, he had just destroyed Libya and killed thousands apart from his massive drone operation which was killing men, women and children, he was treated like a rock star in Dublin, with thousands out cheering.
But Obama only actually started new wars...Trump is here and no new wars and some act as if he had destroyed a country with a new war.
I actually saw people condemning Trump and praising Obama in the past 24 hours, ignorance is bliss...

joe40 · 06-06-2019 10:44AM

Hedgelayer wrote: »

He loves wall's, I'd say if mine craft was out in his childhood he'd be a dinger at it.

After all wall's are synonymous with protection and keeping out undesirable intrusion.

We all build wall's in our lives, he ain't highly articulate in his translation that's why intelligent idiot's can't understand him.

He talks in layman's terms and sometimes in riddles.
That's why simple folk like him, because they get him.

I'll be adding his portrait on my wall beside JFK and Pope John Paul, he's certainly stirred up a lot of discussion....

He's a legend in his own way, nobody can deny he's touched the hearts of many, including myself and everyone else who's either lambasting him or adoring him.

It's the perfect storm in ways....

I love the whole banter of discussion about Trump...

That is an insult to "simple folk" whatever the hell that is.
I would consider my self a simple person from a humble background and can see exactly what a buffoon Trump is.
I can see his abject lack of intelligence, and his laziness in refusing to inform himself.
It is the greatest con of all where a multi millionaire with his Father's fortune can pass himself off as one of the people.
All his talk of draining the swamp and he puts his own family in powerful political positions. You couldn't make this stuff up.
His refusal to acknowledge climate change when America is in a position of real influence, and people still support him.

I actually thought the official welcome by the government was good, the discussion here is the paddywhackery in Doonbeg.

Hedgelayer · 06-06-2019 10:47AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Move aside Mother Teresa.

Lol she's up there with John Wayne's

mcmoustache · 06-06-2019 10:48AM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

This is fake news.

I'm not sure I can add anything to this other than a chef's kiss.

Hedgelayer · 06-06-2019 10:48AM

joe40 wrote: »

That is an insult to "simple folk" whatever the hell that is.
I would consider my self a simple person from a humble background and can see exactly what a buffoon Trump is.
I can see his abject lack of intelligence, and his laziness in refusing to inform himself.
It is the greatest con of all where a multi millionaire with his Father's fortune can pass himself off as one of the people.
All his talk of draining the swamp and he puts his own family in powerful political positions. You couldn't make this stuff up.
His refusal to acknowledge climate change when America is in a position of real influence, and people still support him.

I actually thought the official welcome by the government was good, the discussion here is the paddywhackery in Doonbeg.

True, I tend to deviate from the subject matter now and again.
Thanks for pointing it out to me.

It's pure pop art all of this

Balanadan · 06-06-2019 10:52AM

I'm looking forward to planning another trip to Doonbeg later in the year. A top class establishment.

TheDiceMan2020 · 06-06-2019 10:54AM

Hope Trump himself makes an appearance with the locals.

The meltdown from the media and holier than thou types will be hilarious

Tchaikovsky · 06-06-2019 10:54AM

Hedgelayer wrote: »

nobody can deny he's touched the hearts of many

And pussies

IAMAMORON · 06-06-2019 10:55AM

mcmoustache wrote: »

I'm not sure I can add anything to this other than a chef's kiss.

Please don't be as lazy as your stats.

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mcmoustache · 06-06-2019 10:55AM

TheDiceMan2020 wrote: »

Hope Trump himself makes an appearance with the locals.

The meltdown from the media and holier than thou types will be hilarious

It's already happened and outside of a few crusties protesting, there hasn't been much of any kind of meltdown.

Balf · 06-06-2019 10:58AM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

What we should really be asking is what are our own government doing for rural people, F all. So we have to rely on the likes of Trump to save our small communities? I despair.

In fairness, its a little more complicated than that. Government does spend quite a bit on rural Ireland. It just doesn't seem to connect to anything worthwhile.

And the despair is trying to do something, anything, to show Government is committed to, probably, unrealistic expectations as to what can be done for rural Ireland.

And a good example of this is would be the pantomime around Trump's last visit to Shannon - where our Finance Minister humiliated himself.

Lest we forget.

https://www.thejournal.ie/trump-irish-visit-1460375-May2014/

BattleCorp · 06-06-2019 11:05AM

_blaaz wrote: »

Its not meeting is the problem (think its good to have meeting with forgien leaders etc)

Its just to me seems an extravagent waste of resources when lads going around shooting each other in dublin for what is an unoffial visit by trump.....will we be expected to do same into the future when he retires??

To be fair, there's no such thing as an unofficial visit by the President of the United States.

We have to roll out the red carped because, no matter what you think of Trump, he holds the title of President of the United States.

When he retires, he will no longer be the President so the same wouldn't be done in the future.

IAMAMORON · 06-06-2019 11:05AM

This guy knows how to pick his golf partners.

IAMAMORON · 06-06-2019 11:12AM

I hope he has a blast tomorrow, he has a great swing.

jackboy · 06-06-2019 11:27AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Under no circumstances could any ethical human being respect a position which allowed such abject barbarism and inhumanity. To refuse to criticise the occupant of such a position merely because people have a need to respect the position has permitted all sorts of horrors in history.

Pretty much all countries have an appalling history at some stage. So, does this mean the leadership position of no country should be respected? This does not seem great for international relations.

No one is saying trump cannot be critisised but his position does matter and should be respected to some level. Just like hypocrite Michael D's position should be and is respected.

Snow Garden · 06-06-2019 11:31AM

When will one of the Trumps be fighting one of the Danahers on that bridge later?

Berserker · 06-06-2019 11:32AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Under no circumstances could any ethical human being respect a position which allowed such abject barbarism and inhumanity. To refuse to criticise the occupant of such a position merely because people have a need to respect the position has permitted all sorts of horrors in history.

If that was the case, I can't think of a single President who would be welcome here.

weldoninhio · 06-06-2019 11:35AM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Another comparison that makes no sense. Its mentioned only a few posts above why Irish people respect Clinton. Can anyone give me a reason to respect Trump's two sons? Or Trump himself even?

What about Obama?? He was like a hero over here. Started how many wars?? Murdered how many innocents as "collateral damage" during his eight years.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2017/01/08/home-and-abroad-obama-trail-disasters/YOaU1KuAT3hSHaGHkmGCeN/story.html

Deebles McBeebles · 06-06-2019 11:41AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

What about Obama?? He was like a hero over here. Started how many wars?? Murdered how many innocents as "collateral damage" during his eight years.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2017/01/08/home-and-abroad-obama-trail-disasters/YOaU1KuAT3hSHaGHkmGCeN/story.html

I couldn't give 2 sh*ts about Obama tbh, that was more Paddywhackery. Practically calling him Irish for some reason. As if he gave a sh*t.

If Trump had been elected at that time, in that climate, he would have done the same or worse. If he could understand what was happening of course.

Berserker · 06-06-2019 11:42AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

What about Obama?? He was like a hero over here. Started how many wars?? Murdered how many innocents as "collateral damage" during his eight years.

Chalk and cheese. Obama is practically Irish, for starters, even speaks a bit of Irish. Also, his brand of politics, really appeals to the champagne socialists over here. The whole warmongering line is really odd. Trump hasn't started a single war since he took office. The award of the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama, still puzzles me to this day.

06-06-2019 11:45AM

I thought naming a motorway service station after Obama was the height of silly paddywhackery.

Berserker · 06-06-2019 11:48AM

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

I thought naming a motorway service station after Obama was the height of silly paddywhackery.

Would have thought the Freedom of Dublin for him and his wife was the limit. The motorway service station was a very Irish thing to do.

weldoninhio · 06-06-2019 11:51AM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

I couldn't give 2 sh*ts about Obama tbh, that was more Paddywhackery. Practically calling him Irish for some reason. As if he gave a sh*t.

If Trump had been elected at that time, in that climate, he would have done the same or worse. If he could understand what was happening of course.

Got tomorrows Euromillions numbers Mr Psychic?? :rolleyes:

Grayson · 06-06-2019 12:00PM

Snow Garden wrote: »

When will one of the Trumps be fighting one of the Danahers on that bridge later?

The Trumps have hereditary bone spurs.

weldoninhio wrote: »

What about Obama?? He was like a hero over here. Started how many wars?? Murdered how many innocents as "collateral damage" during his eight years.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2017/01/08/home-and-abroad-obama-trail-disasters/YOaU1KuAT3hSHaGHkmGCeN/story.html

As bad as Obama was, Trump has ramped it up.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207

There have been 2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama's eight years in office, according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, a UK-based think tank.

BTW, the article you linked criticizes Obama for pulling troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan and for not intervening in Syria. So did you want him to fight wars? because your comment seems to indicate you didn't and the article you posted seems to say he should.

facehugger99 · 06-06-2019 12:04PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Trump should come more often, he upsets the right people.
I was looking back at previous US presidential visits, before this we had President Obama, he had just destroyed Libya and killed thousands apart from his massive drone operation which was killing men, women and children, he was treated like a rock star in Dublin, with thousands out cheering.
But Obama only actually started new wars...Trump is here and no new wars and some act as if he had destroyed a country with a new war.
I actually saw people condemning Trump and praising Obama in the past 24 hours, ignorance is bliss...

Twas worse that that.

During the infamous banking bailout, the US treasury secretary under Obama, Timothy Geithner, scuppered us imposing so called 'haircuts' on the bank bondholders because the US were worried about the stability of the wider banking system. Irish tax payers were saddled with billions of euro of extra debt because of this.

Obama rocks up in Dublin a few months later and is lauded as a hero on the streets. I couldn't believe friends and colleges went into Dame Street to laud him. He basically screwed us over to try and protect the banking system

Doonbeg Begorragh!

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