Slow drivers.... Slow for a reason...

realdanbreen · 31-05-2019 02:27PM

Rodin wrote: »

Most drivers well under the speedlimit that I come across are elderly.

Their brains and bodies cannot cope with the speeds required..

And of course most of those who are killed on the roads are not elderly and (unfortunately )most of those who will be killed in the coming weeks will have perfect bodies and brains.

Rodin · 31-05-2019 02:34PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

And of course most of those who are killed on the roads are not elderly and (unfortunately )most of those who will be killed in the coming weeks will have perfect bodies and brains.

According to the RSA, in the years 2016 and 2017 combined (the latest full figures available), the group with the greatest numbers of fatalities were road users aged 65+ .

The next largest was the 16-25 age group.

Opinions are much stronger when backed up with statistics.

realdanbreen · 31-05-2019 02:53PM

"According to the RSA" ! Maybe you should put up a link as to where you're getting that from.

Rodin · 31-05-2019 03:01PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

"According to the RSA" ! Maybe you should put up a link as to where you're getting that from.

http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Road-Safety/RSA-Statistics/

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Fatal%20Collision%20Stats/Provisional_Reviews_of_Fatal_Collisions/RSA%20Provisional%20Review%20of%20Fatalities%2031%20December%202017.pdf

Page 9 - Deaths by Age Profile

realdanbreen · 31-05-2019 03:13PM

Rodin wrote: »

http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Road-Safety/RSA-Statistics/

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Fatal%20Collision%20Stats/Provisional_Reviews_of_Fatal_Collisions/RSA%20Provisional%20Review%20of%20Fatalities%2031%20December%202017.pdf

Page 9 - Deaths by Age Profile

Fair enough. Although of course you 'forgot' to mention that a similar percentage of fatalaties were between 16 and 25 and that while there has been a reduction in over 66 deaths there has been an increase in fatalaties among 46-55 year olds!

Xcellor · 31-05-2019 03:18PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

99% of the clowns who honk and flash the lights would run a mile if you got out and challenged them Anytime they beep me I move to the centre of the road and slow to a crawl.

Yes they are clowns but doing what you suggest is a dick move. It's dangerous.

Tikki Wang Wang · 31-05-2019 03:21PM

stop animal cruelty wrote: »

Listening to the local radio station today and a lady text in.

She has to make a 20km drive from her home to school, for her child who is autistic child 5 days a week. She drives under a certain speed so not to upset/trigger off her son.

Everyday. Everyday, she says she get hooted at and is the victim of road rage from other drivers. She said the beeping and hooting distresses her son.

My heart actually broke for her. What a distressing suitation to be in.

I've posted this so to make others aware that maybe not all slow drivers are pain in the hole and should get off the road.

I'm guilty myself for road rage, but this really makes me think twice, we really don't know the full story. If your in a rush or late for work.... That's ur responsibility... Leave 10min earlier next time.

Let's just be more aware of people who have it tougher than us.

Sounds like nonsense. Like a lot of women drivers she may not be able to judge acceleration or braking. There is little difference in what you feel driving 20 mph or 50 mph. Acceleration is felt though and maybe that’s the real issue here.

tuxy · 31-05-2019 03:24PM

Tikki Wang Wang wrote: »

Sounds like nonsense. Like a lot of women drivers she may not be able to judge acceleration or braking. There is little difference in what you feel driving 20 mph or 50 mph. Acceleration is felt though and maybe that’s the real issue here.

Would there be a different in noise? Something autistic children are often very sensitive to?

is_that_so · 31-05-2019 03:32PM

tuxy wrote: »

Would there be a different in noise? Something autistic children are often very sensitive to?

I'd say that depends on the car but most noise comes from acceleration. I don't think it's really an issue in modern well-maintained cars. Don't some people use noise canceling headphones for autistic kids?

Leonidas BL · 31-05-2019 03:36PM

Maybe put a special needs sign on the back window??

biko · 31-05-2019 03:38PM

Tikki Wang Wang wrote: »

Like a lot of women drivers she may not be able to judge acceleration or braking.

A lot of posters have difficulties judging what is sexism or not. Don't be one of those posters.

blade1 · 31-05-2019 03:41PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

99% of the clowns who honk and flash the lights would run a mile if you got out and challenged them Anytime they beep me I move to the centre of the road and slow to a crawl.

If everyone does what you do, you're doubling the amount of clowns on the road.

Duffryman · 31-05-2019 03:43PM

tuxy wrote: »

They should use the extensive reliable public transport network we have, it's free for the elderly. Especially in rural areas, it would be much safer.

Please tell us more about the extensive public transport in rural areas?

You must have some access to a well-kept secret?

realdanbreen · 31-05-2019 03:44PM

Xcellor wrote: »

Yes they are clowns but doing what you suggest is a dick move. It's dangerous.

So the moral of the story is.......don't act the clown when driving behind me!

blade1 · 31-05-2019 03:49PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

So the moral of the story is.......don't act the clown when driving behind me!

No,if someone is acting the clown behind you,you get out of their way and have them in front of you where it's easier for you to keep an eye on them.

Seriously bad attitude to have to join in playing games with assholes on the road.

realdanbreen · 31-05-2019 03:55PM

blade1 wrote: »

No,if someone is acting the clown behind you,you get out of their way and have them in front of you where it's easier for you to keep an eye on them.

Seriously bad attitude to have to join in playing games with assholes on the road.

You do what you do if you wish but I have more important things to be doing than 'keeping an eye on them'

blade1 · 31-05-2019 03:57PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

You do what you do if you wish but I have more important things to be doing than 'keeping an eye on them'

Yeah like acting the clown with them.

hgfj · 31-05-2019 04:38PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

A bus/taxi/friend who can drive while she looks after the kid during the journey. She is the one with the sense of entitlement. I’ll hold everyone up because of my issue.

Friend
How many friends do you have who would be willing and able to drive you to your destination every day of the week, bar weekends?

Taxi
How often would you be able to pay for a taxi every day of the week?

Bus
Child is autistic. Travelling by bus with other children/adults can be a nightmare for an autistic child.

weldoninhio · 31-05-2019 04:45PM

hgfj wrote: »

Friend
How many friends do you have who would be willing and able to drive you to your destination every day of the week, bar weekends?

Taxi
How often would you be able to pay for a taxi every day of the week?

Bus
Child is autistic. Travelling by bus with other children/adults can be a nightmare for an autistic child.

How much of a dream do you think it is for the kid to have car after car beeping and shouting all the way to and from school??

return guide · 31-05-2019 05:04PM

Rodin wrote: »

According to the RSA, in the years 2016 and 2017 combined (the latest full figures available), the group with the greatest numbers of fatalities were road users aged 65+ .

The next largest was the 16-25 age group.

Opinions are much stronger when backed up with statistics.

That is not actually the case, you pointed to page nine which includes all road users when page 11 "Deaths by age group of drivers, passengers and vulnerable road users" which shows it is the reverse of statement i.e. more younger drivers dying.

HartsHat · 31-05-2019 05:04PM

A lot of very angry people on this thread.

hgfj · 31-05-2019 05:07PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

How much of a dream do you think it is for the kid to have car after car beeping and shouting all the way to and from school??

A dream? Why would I think it's a dream? I'm sure both scenarios are a nightmare for the child. Your 'solution' is simply to exchange one nightmare scenario for another.

31-05-2019 05:15PM

HartsHat wrote: »

A lot of very angry people on this thread.

I know...when did society become so inconsiderate of others?

I don't like going too fast so I'll generally stick around 30 (maybe 35) in a 50/60 zone and I constantly have these rage filled people going mad behind me, beeping, overtaking etc...

I mean why get annoyed? If they aren't willing to accommodate my tastes on the road that's their problem, selfish angry people

is_that_so · 31-05-2019 05:23PM

HartsHat wrote: »

A lot of very angry people on this thread.

There are but some of them may be imagining themselves behind a driver not making progress. Such drivers may have their reasons but it does create a risk for others.

killanena · 31-05-2019 05:23PM

AuldDaysul wrote:

Wheelchair symbol is probably universal and would probably reduce the road rage, blinds on the windows would do for the child, how would a child know the difference between 60kph and 80kph. Whatever this woman thinks, people will be aggressive if she's not keeping up with the general speed of traffic as she's causing an obstruction.

I have an autistic brother and have worked with the brothers of Charity. In my experience, it's not the speed but the sound that distresses them. Especially if its a wet day. We had wheelchair signs and the back of our cars and a bumper sticker saying brothers of charity to hopefully pass the message. We would have avoided motorways though as I agree that driving slow can be just as dangerous as driving too fast.

blade1 · 31-05-2019 05:24PM

Batrachotox wrote: »

I know...when did society become so inconsiderate of others?

I don't like going too fast so I'll generally stick around 30 (maybe 35) in a 50/60 zone and I constantly have these rage filled people going mad behind me, beeping, overtaking etc...

I mean why get annoyed? If they aren't willing to accommodate my tastes on the road that's their problem, selfish angry people

1 out a possible 10 for that one.

is_that_so · 31-05-2019 05:27PM

Batrachotox wrote: »

I know...when did society become so inconsiderate of others?

I don't like going too fast so I'll generally stick around 30 (maybe 35) in a 50/60 zone and I constantly have these rage filled people going mad behind me, beeping, overtaking etc...

I mean why get annoyed? If they aren't willing to accommodate my tastes on the road that's their problem, selfish angry people

It's extremely inconsiderate to other road users and you don't get to make up speed limits that suit you. You wouldn't be deemed competent for a full driving licence at that speed unless the conditions warranted it. Speed limits are not targets but they are an indicator of the safe speed to travel at in a zone.

is_that_so · 31-05-2019 05:28PM

killanena wrote: »

I have an autistic brother and have worked with the brothers of Charity. In my experience, it's not the speed but the sound that distresses them. Especially if its a wet day. We had wheelchair signs and the back of our cars and a bumper sticker saying brothers of charity to hopefully pass the message. We would have avoided motorways though as I agree that driving slow can be just as dangerous as driving too fast.

Can headphones help in that scenario?

tuxy · 31-05-2019 05:34PM

Leonidas BL wrote: »

Maybe put a special needs sign on the back window??

Any sign you put on the back window just makes you more of a target.
You only have to look at how people react to learners to prove that.

Strumms · 31-05-2019 05:34PM

blade1 wrote: »

If everyone does what you do, you're doubling the amount of clowns on the road.

Correct, in fairness if someone is being a prick on the road...adding to their number by driving dangerously/in contravention of the road traffic act isn’t helping any.

Slow drivers.... Slow for a reason...

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