Slow drivers.... Slow for a reason...

First Up

Larbre34 wrote:

What I mean is, if the woman is driving 50 in an 80 zone for example, if she drives smoothly and defensively up to that speed or to 80, it should barely be noticeable to any occupant so long as the limit has been set appropriately for the particular road. To illustrate, your holiday airliner cruises at about 850 km/h, but because acceleration is gradual over maybe half an hour, you scarcely feel it, accept the necessary surge on takeoff.

I assume you are speaking from a position of professional expertise on the subject?

Sometimes people drive slowly for perfectly good reasons. All we can reasonably ask of them is to cause as little delay and inconvenience as possible to other road users.

AndrewJRenko

Larbre34 wrote: »

Have to say I don't accept the premise of the OP.

I fully get that people with autism can be easily upset by all sorts of triggers inconsequential to the rest of us, but unless part of this young person's condition is that they focus on the speedometer, then only erractic driving and sharp acceleration or deceleration would be noticeable.

What I mean is, if the woman is driving 50 in an 80 zone for example, if she drives smoothly and defensively up to that speed or to 80, it should barely be noticeable to any occupant so long as the limit has been set appropriately for the particular road. To illustrate, your holiday airliner cruises at about 850 km/h, but because acceleration is gradual over maybe half an hour, you scarcely feel it, accept the necessary surge on takeoff.

Most people would have a good idea of their speed just by looking out the window, regardless of how smooth the acceleration has been.

kirving

bmc58 wrote: »

You sound like a F1 driving expert.

Thanks for your contribution.

JeffKenna

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Most people would have a good idea of their speed just by looking out the window, regardless of how smooth the acceleration has been.

Very much depends on the quality of the car.

beauf

JeffKenna wrote: »

Very much depends on the quality of the car.

The design of a car. Sense of speed is much more in a open top low slung sports car than a big comfy barge.

beauf

beauf wrote: »

The design of a car. Sense of speed is much more in a open top low slung sports car than a big comfy barge.

Yeah and I’m sure she’s driving him to school every day in a Pagani Zonda :rolleyes:

beauf

Batrachotox wrote: »

Yeah and I’m sure she’s driving him to school every day in a Pagani Zonda :rolleyes:

Which doesn't make sense because you won't get much sense of speed at 100 in car designed to be rock solid at almost 200. Where as in something like Lotus Elan you would.

It doesn't matter what you drive some people will always be *#@$& even ambulance drivers have to deal with people being morons.

First Up

If the child gets upset, he gets upset. No point in arguing that he shouldn't.

It has nothing to do with the point at issue.

galwaytt

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Most people would have a good idea of their speed just by looking out the window, regardless of how smooth the acceleration has been.

don't think so. Newer cars are very quiet, and EV/Hybrid particularly. Add in music/radio - and yes, headphones - and I doubt they have any idea what speed they're doing unless it was in 2ft high letters on the windscreen in front of them.

A 520d at 120 is near-silent.
An MX-5 at 120 sounds like you're doing this:

AndrewJRenko

galwaytt wrote: »

don't think so. Newer cars are very quiet, and EV/Hybrid particularly. Add in music/radio - and yes, headphones - and I doubt they have any idea what speed they're doing unless it was in 2ft high letters on the windscreen in front of them.

A 520d at 120 is near-silent.
An MX-5 at 120 sounds like you're doing this:

I wasn't talking about noise - just about the view. You know when you look out the window and see the trees or houses flying by?

bmc58

Larbre34 wrote: »

Have to say I don't accept the premise of the OP.

I fully get that people with autism can be easily upset by all sorts of triggers inconsequential to the rest of us, but unless part of this young person's condition is that they focus on the speedometer, then only erractic driving and sharp acceleration or deceleration would be noticeable.

What I mean is, if the woman is driving 50 in an 80 zone for example, if she drives smoothly and defensively up to that speed or to 80, it should barely be noticeable to any occupant so long as the limit has been set appropriately for the particular road. To illustrate, your holiday airliner cruises at about 850 km/h, but because acceleration is gradual over maybe half an hour, you scarcely feel it, accept the necessary surge on takeoff.

Sorry Larbre34,but you have no idea about autism in children.My 8year old niece has it and anything can suddently trigger an episode.But thankfully as she is getting older she is managing situations a little better.

First Up

bmc58 wrote:

Sorry Larbre34,but you have no idea about autism in children.My 8year old niece has it and anything can suddently trigger an episode.But thankfully as she is getting older she is managing situations a little better.

I don't know what you are apologising for; the poster was talking through his hat. The autistic spectrum is a very complex subject even for professionals.

If the child's mother says he is autistic nobody in an internet forum is in any position to say otherwise. If the child gets upset in a car it is pointless to say he shouldn't.

The only issue worth discussing is how someone driving slowly should interact with others on the road - and vice versa.

The rest is rubbish.

tuxy

Is there anything to be said for the old farmer method of driving half way on the hard shoulder and half on the road with the hazards on. It's not as popular as it once was but only a matter of time before it's back in use again.

tphase

tuxy wrote: »

Is there anything to be said for the old farmer method of driving half way on the hard shoulder and half on the road with the hazards on. It's not as popular as it once was but only a matter of time before it's back in use again.

thereby blocking two lanes....:rolleyes:

beauf

tphase wrote: »

thereby blocking two lanes....:rolleyes:

I didn't think the hard shoulder is a lane?

tphase

beauf wrote: »

I didn't think the hard shoulder is a lane?

can a lad not be sarcastic without having mixed tenses thrown at him?

Edit: in some countries, the hard shoulder is referred to as the breakdown lane so technically it is a lane. However, apart from certain exceptions, it's not a driving lane so our hypothetical farmer hogging the yellow line would be risking points and a fine

corks finest

tphase wrote: »

beauf wrote: »

I didn't think the hard shoulder is a lane?

can a lad not be sarcastic without having mixed tenses thrown at him?

Edit: in some countries, the hard shoulder is referred to as the breakdown lane so technically it is a lane. However, apart from certain exceptions, it's not a driving lane so our hypothetical farmer hogging the yellow line would be risking points and a fine

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