Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

KSU · 27-05-2019 5:18pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Yes, all of the above as well. Blaming politicians, let alone a particular party for that fiasco.
These types of projects cost us way above similar ones in other countries because Ireland Inc is unable to deliver the same value for money.

Why not the last two ministers for procurement (Patrick O Donovan and Eoghan Murphy, both Fine Gael) have overseen some of the biggest wastage of public funding since the Bertie Bowl.

ChikiChiki · 27-05-2019 5:20pm

From SOR interview

"I couldnt go home for 3 days last week"

"I had to work from home last week"

meeeeh · 27-05-2019 5:21pm

seamus wrote: »

To be fair, if she's being represented by Madigan's husband's firm, then that may become a complicated question that she's better off saying nothing about.

It doesn't imply that Madigan advised her.

That said, there's clearly an issue here for Madigan if she was in any way involved in advising Bailey.

She is represented by firm run by Josepha Madigan's brother. The same firm Josepha Madigan used to work for. I know very little about how law firms operate but it seems Josepha Madigan worked a lot in the area of family law. I wouldn't necessarily conclude she had inside knowledge of the case but I wouldn't be surprised if she knew about it. But I don't think Madigan's husband is involved in any way.

Sin City · 27-05-2019 5:23pm

BENDYBINN wrote: »

The simple question that wasn’t asked.......Maria, why was this the hotels fault?
Why was she not asked this?

It was their fault as the swing was not supervised , any idiot could fall off due to no fault of their own
If a member of staff was there and advised her to hold on to the swing with both hands as the swing is movable she may not have fallen

So they obviously owe her 60 k

27-05-2019 5:24pm

blinding wrote: »

She obviously expected this case to be settled before it came to court and the Public would never get to hear about it and she would have a nice little earner .

Other people must have had other ideas and luckily for the Irish public we have seen this Fine Gael TD for what she is .

And to note for a personal injury claim she would have had to go through the personal injuries board first who would make an assessment privately between the two parties and if they decided in her favor the would specify a figure for compensation but it would be in most cases a lot less than awarded by the courts. By deciding to bring it to court she guaranteed it would become public. Pure greed and stupidity.

suicide_circus · 27-05-2019 5:26pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

Matt Cooper putting the boot in now

he has an ambulance chaser on now trying to justify his scummy practice

BENDYBINN · 27-05-2019 5:29pm

Sin City wrote: »

It was their fault as the swing was not supervised , any idiot could fall off due to no fault of their own
If a member of staff was there and advised her to hold on to the swing with both hands as the swing is movable she may not have fallen

So they obviously owe her 60 k

Agree, but surely o rourke should have made her explain

angel eyes 2012 · 27-05-2019 5:31pm

cisk wrote: »

And to note for a personal injury claim she would have had to go through the personal injuries board first who would make an assessment privately between the two parties and if they decided in her favor the would specify a figure for compensation but it would be in most cases a lot less than awarded by the courts. By deciding to bring it to court she guaranteed it would become public. Pure greed and stupidity.

The real victim in this case, the hotel, also had the right to reject the piab process and take their chances to fully defend their case before a judge. Now that she has withdrawn the court case, I hope the hotel seek their pre-court costs separately from Ms. Bailey.

Sin City · 27-05-2019 5:31pm

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Agree, but surely o rourke should have made her explain

He should have indeed. I havent heard the interview yet so I cant say what was said but it sounds like from what bits I have been reading that he let her off lightly

mikemac2 · 27-05-2019 5:33pm

“As someone who grew up on a sideline of a GAA pitch I play fair and this is offside “

I played under 12 hurling which was a long time ago

There is no offside right ? Right ? She made a few references to her GAA pedigree

jos28 · 27-05-2019 5:34pm

I'm shocked at this image from our local park :eek::eek:
Children playing on swings and not a supervisor or list of instructions in sight :eek:

Sin City · 27-05-2019 5:35pm

jos28 wrote: »

I'm shocked at this image from our local park :eek::eek:
Children playing on swings and not a supervisor or list of instructions in sight :eek:

Looks like two are in trouble there
Might be another lawsuit coming

Jupiter Mulligan · 27-05-2019 5:36pm

doubledeutsch wrote: »

I assume the Hotel was disputing either the cost or the necessity of those medical expenses?

She may have tied herself up in knots in that interview, but ultimately she was right, it was nobody's business except her, the Hotel and the court.

But in Ireland, with the exception of family law cases, the courts are open to the public. Hence by opting to go to court she was implicitly allowing the details of the case to go into the public domain.

DelaneyIn · 27-05-2019 5:37pm

mikemac2 wrote: »

“As someone who grew up on a sideline of a GAA pitch I play fair and this is offside “

I played under 12 hurling which was a long time ago

There is no offside right ? Right ? She made a few references to her GAA pedigree

No offside in GAA. She messed that one up too.

Suckit · 27-05-2019 5:37pm

mikemac2 wrote: »

“As someone who grew up on a sideline of a GAA pitch I play fair and this is offside “

I played under 12 hurling which was a long time ago

There is no offside right ? Right ? She made a few references to her GAA pedigree

She also mentioned that she is a Strong female politician and other references, hoping to win over their sympathy, as that is how they all play it.

All she had to really do was remind her voters where she is from

They'll probably vote her back in again anyway. Her father got in again.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 27-05-2019 5:39pm

mikemac2 wrote: »

“As someone who grew up on a sideline of a GAA pitch I play fair and this is offside “

I played under 12 hurling which was a long time ago

There is no offside right ? Right ? She made a few references to her GAA pedigree

Correct, she tied herself up in knots in that interview, lying and making up more rubbish to cover her other lies.

She is a complete clown who doesn't deserve to be in public office. I hope Leo 'advises' her to 'consider her future with the party' in light of the holy show she has made of herself from the beginning to the end.

jmayo · 27-05-2019 5:40pm

jos28 wrote: »

I'm shocked at this image from our local park :eek::eek:
Children playing on swings and not a supervisor or list of instructions in sight :eek:

I hope to christ you are not taking pics of strangers children in the park. :eek:

odyssey06 · 27-05-2019 5:42pm

I presume even if FG don't expel her now, her constituency won't select her as a candidate for next general election given she is now a 'toxic brand'?

jmayo · 27-05-2019 5:44pm

Suckit wrote: »

She also mentioned that she is a Strong female politician and other references, hoping to win over their sympathy, as that is how they all play it.

All she had to really do was remind her voters where she is from

They'll probably vote her back in again anyway. Her father got in again.

Ah she seems to be resorting to the Serena Williams playbook of reminding everyone she is a woman and mother when pulled up on her shyteology.

If only poor old maria was non white, she could also use that. :rolleyes:

Dyr · 27-05-2019 5:44pm

mikemac2 wrote: »

“As someone who grew up on a sideline of a GAA pitch I play fair and this is offside “

I played under 12 hurling which was a long time ago

There is no offside right ? Right ? She made a few references to her GAA pedigree

Her old man was chairman of the Dublin county board

He once told the Dublin senior hurlers that was taking over managing them and was politely told to **** off by them

whiskeyman · 27-05-2019 5:47pm

She mentioned she was locked away for 3 days...

Collecting her thoughts, preparing for a fight...

I thought she'd come out swinging!

27-05-2019 5:48pm

Suckit wrote: »

She also mentioned that she is a Strong female politician and other references, hoping to win over their sympathy, as that is how they all play it.

All she had to really do was remind her voters where she is from

They'll probably vote her back in again anyway. Her father got in again.

"I'm a strong female Politician and some people don't like that"

Pathetic.

brooke 2 · 27-05-2019 5:48pm

VinLieger wrote: »

Shes using Josephas Madigans family firm, Josepha was involved in obstructing planning permission for an apartment development that was sought by the owners of the Dean so there's suspicion they leaked it to the media to retaliate knowing full well how bad it would look due to the insurance hikes cus of bogus claims and that Maria's claim would never stand up to public scrutiny.

Well, Maria Bailey did claim at one point that she was 'collateral damage' . The timing of the leak was very deliberate. Whoever was responsible for it knew how enraged people would be at a politician making fraudulent insurance claims. Heard David McWilliams say on radio on Sunday that all people in his area, Dalkey, were talking about at the polling booth was Maria Bailey, when they would usually chat to him about something to do with economics in general. Many have businesses for which they have to pay astronomical insurance costs. He claimed they were livid at what they were hearing about Maria Bailey.

holyhead · 27-05-2019 5:48pm

She may have gotten a start in politics due to her father but the electorate voted her in so she is there on merit. She most likely has put a ticking clock on her political career. She will be a focus going forward for vitriol and ridicule. She played the victim right through her RTE interview. Amazed Sean didn't ask her why she dropped the case.

1. You always keep both hands on a swing. For her to bring a case knowing she had alcohol in one hand if not two, at the time, was downright daft.
2. To give incorrect information on a statement of fact and then say she was entitled to correct it subsequently just doesn't tally.
3. She is a public representative in the national parliament. By taking her case to the courts she ensured it became public. Anyone with a brain cell knows this looks bad taking the case she was taking against the hotel.
4. To go on national radio and play the victim having taken a spurious case is just daft.
5. To put up on social media about running a race weeks after being 'injured' and knowing she was taking a case against a hotel was daft.
6. Insisting on national radio that you had a case, after you dropped it and admitted holding alcohol while on a swing is daft.

The only conclusion is that the sooner this woman is out of public life the better. For the nation and herself.

smurgen · 27-05-2019 5:49pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

From SOR interview

"I couldnt go home for 3 days last week"

"I had to work from home last week"

"I'm not much into the social side of public life, I'd much rather be on the couch in pj's"

" I'm not a hermit, i like to go out an socialise"

Before the incident at the hotel she acted as if she needed to be dragged there by friends. Then she changes her tune completely when talking about being at the festival.the manner in which she lies is fascinatingly easy to her.

KSU · 27-05-2019 5:53pm

Sin City wrote: »

Looks like two are in trouble there
Might be another lawsuit coming

Probably her kids, you drop one lawsuit and two more pop up in there place.

The Rape of Lucretia · 27-05-2019 5:55pm

How high was she when she fell?

ChikiChiki · 27-05-2019 5:56pm

smurgen wrote: »

"I'm not much into the social side of public life, I'd much rather be on the couch in pj's"

" I'm not a hermit, i like to go out an socialise"

Before the incident at the hotel she acted as if she needed to be dragged there by friends. Then she changes her tune completely when talking about being at the festival.the manner in which she lies is fascinatingly easy to her.

Full of contradictions and came across as a pathological liar. If she is not gone from FG by the end of the week she will weather it. There should be no alternative option to the leadership.

retro:electro · 27-05-2019 5:57pm

She will literally never live this down. From now on until the end of time, wherever she decides to rest her arse it’ll be “careful there Maria!”. Whenever she’s ordering a drink at the bar “I’ll have a wine please”, the barman will be like “and for the other hand?”

McMurphy · 27-05-2019 5:57pm

Bambi wrote: »

Her old man was chairman of the Dublin county board

He once told the Dublin senior hurlers that was taking over managing them and was politely told to **** off by them

She didn't lick it off a stone by the looks of things.

FG member in threat to sue as council row simmers on

A FINE Gael councillor in Dún Laoghaire Rathdown County Council has threatened legal action against a Green Party councillor following a row in council chambers.

Solicitors for Cllr John Bailey, former chairman of the GAA Dublin County Board, have written to Cllr Tom Kivlehan claiming that their client was defamed in the chamber at a meeting in March.

At March's council meeting a debate on the council's waste service became heated when Mr Kivlehan accused Mr Bailey of not reading the manager's report.

I liked this bit especially.

He said his character and reputation were important to him and he was entitled to defend them.

"I will now take the next appropriate step to get my character re-established, there is no backing down on this," he added.

Some character/reputation alrighty John.

Wikipedia wrote:

Fake endorsement letter incident
Edit
On 23 May 2007, the eve of the general election in Ireland, Bailey circulated a letter purporting to be an official missive from the Fine Gael party, advising party supporters to vote No 1 for Bailey for vote management reasons. The letter was headed with a photo of the party leader, Enda Kenny. This action was subsequently criticised by his running mate, Eugene Regan who called the letter 'entirely dishonest'. Fine Gael's local director of elections, Paddy Hayes, described the letter as a 'serious breach of party discipline and unity'.[1][2]

Missing Golf club planning objection
Edit
In 2009, Bailey wrote to constituents in the vicinity of Dun Laoghaire Golf Club to inform them that he had submitted an objection to An Bord Plean concerning building development proposed for the Golf club grounds. The appeals body denied receiving an objection from Bailey. Bailey stated it must have gone missing in the post and that his bank was trying to trace the cheque for his submission fee. The Sunday Business Post and Sunday Tribune both reported that Bailey and his daughter had received financial donations towards their election campaigns from the builders and the estate agents of the Golf Club development. Bailey assured the public that the donations had no bearing on his failure to object to the development.[1][2][permanent dead link][3][permanent dead link]

Legal action over candidate selection
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Less than two years after the criticism by Eugene Regan of John Bailey, Regan's 25-year-old daughter, Naja, sought to be selected to run as a Fine Gael candidate in the 2009 local elections. The initial selection convention in November 2008 was cancelled at short notice following a letter written by the Fine Gael's three sitting councillors (including John Bailey) to the FG executive council declaring their "unanimous view" that they should be the only candidates selected to run in the ward.[3]

The selection convention was held in February 2009. Naja Regan was prevented from contesting the selection process by order of the national executive council of Fine Gael. She responded by seeking a High Court injunction against Fine Gael for failing to follow its own procedures.[4]

The case was settled out of court when Regan agreed not to contest the election but to be the first substitute candidate for he council in the event of a Fine Gael member ceasing to be a councillor during the term of the council.[5]

Undeclared donations from developers
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The Irish Times reported in August, 2010 that Bailey had received donations from a local developer, Devondale Holdings Ltd, that he failed to declare to the Standards in Public Office Commission. Bailey said he would return the donation straight away. “I’ve always declared everything and I’m not ashamed of anything I’ve done. Everything I do is straight on the table. I work 6½ days a week for Dún Laoghaire. Nobody has been stronger against developers,” he said.[6] Subsequently, the Sunday Tribune reported that he had also received undeclared donations in breach of SIPO rules, from Cosgrave Developments Ltd, the developer of the Dun Laoghaire Golf Course scheme.[7]

Fake newspaper endorsement
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In 2013, Bailey issued a leaflet designed to look like a local newspaper, the Dun Laoghaire Gazette. The "newspaper" appeared to endorse Bailey, and painted him in a positive light. The Dublin Gazette group denied any involvement in the leaflet, and sought an apology from Bailey. He said that he had "no problem in apologising", but didn't "see what the big deal is". Fine Gael distanced themselves from the leaflet, saying that they would not "condone or support" such literature. This breach of copyright was facilitated by Niall Mescall, managing Director of Reads Design & Print Sandyford & Dun Laoghaire. Mr Mescall instructed staff into editing an article about amgen and the National Rehabilitation Hospital indicating Gazette Group Newspapers had given permission for use in this way. It was reported that John Bailey had delivered approximately 300 of these leaflets to his constituents, however closer to 3000 were actually produced. For this john Bailey paid Niall Mescall C/o Reads Design & Print in Dun Laoghaire approximately €600.[8]

Electoral history
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He was elected to Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown County Council in 2004. On this occasion, his daughter, Maria Bailey, was also elected. They were re-elected in 2009. He was a candidate in the Irish general election in 2002 and 2007 for the Dun Laoghaire Rathdown constituency but failed to be elected to the D. He failed to be elected to the senate in 2002 and 2007.[9]

In April 2012, The Irish Times reported that he was the highest earning councillor on Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown council in 2011, earning more than €47,000

Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

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