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European Parliament Elections 2019

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    #752
    Westernyelp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    I think Saoirse McHugh's vote could even be underestimated at 12% Just from chatting to people who had voted today.
    i myself was going to give her some sort of voted but only switched to number 1 when filling in the paper. i have heard a few similar stories.


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    #753
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,782 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    They are not Dublin based, which is where the housing anomalies are happening between workers and scratchers.

    And people in Dublin are voting green.


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    #754
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,398 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Nobelium wrote: »
    So true . . . grand for those who can put in some 50 grand heating / solar / wind system and buy an new electric car every 2 years

    My personal experience of green (so called) voters are they are solidly middle class, live in a nice part of town, and take numerous foreign holidays (always very well travelled and let you know about it). Probably the highest carbon emissions of any citizens if the truth were told. I’ve found the climate change hysteria deeply nauseating tbh


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    #755
    Blueshoe
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    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    No, but they might well put taxes on the things that actually ARE a threat to the environment - plane flights, diesel engines, plastic, plastic, plastic.

    So no more holidays for joe soap. Anyone with a diesel screwed even more. A green version of fine Gael.

    Do you think our suffering will keep the Chinese or Indians up at night. Guilt them into changing their ways.
    Walking us into more taxes which will make absolutely no difference to the environment. There are no alternatives in Ireland.


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    #756
    alan partridge aha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Think Wallace has finally put the nail in the coffin of Malcolm Byrne doing anything other than a lowly councillor.


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    #757
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    grbear wrote: »
    It'll be interesting to see how Midlands-Northwest plays out but I'm delighted to see that Rabbitte failed miserably.


    Whut?


    Nobody, not FFs biggest fan, expected Rabbitte to win. She was just there to hoover up a few local votes and transfer preferences to Mr. Say Cheese.


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    #758
    Spanish Eyes
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    Fann Linn wrote: »
    And people in Dublin are voting green.

    I mentioned earlier that this was a kick to the main parties who have not listened to the struggling commuters paying for the scratchers. I think they may have to listen now. And yes, the irony of commuters using fossil fuel to get to their jobs voting Green, OMG. But they have little choice do they?

    A perfect opportunity for FFG to tackle this in the name of being green. ;)

    But I may have got the wrong end of the stick from your post.


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    #759
    blanch152
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    Fan of Netflix wrote: »
    Anyone think Lynn Boylan still has a chance? Think FF could be in trouble there too.


    Cuffe and Fitzgerald will take seats.

    Green surplus could decide between Daly, Andrews and Boylan for the last two seats. I think Boylan will lose out, but it is only exit poll.


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    #760
    road_high
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    So no more holidays for joe soap. Anyone with a diesel screwed even more. A green version of fine Gael.

    Do you think our suffering will keep the Chinese or Indians up at night. Guilt them into changing their ways.
    Walking us into more taxes which will make absolutely no difference to the environment. There are no alternatives in Ireland.

    No but middle class teachers will feel all warm and fuzzy inside with their smugness transferred onto the shoulders of the poor


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    #761
    Just Saying
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    I won’t rule it out completely but SF are very transfer toxic. She’s in big trouble.

    I think it will be Cuffe and Fitzgerald followed by Daly who should pick up enough transfers to put her ahead of Andrews who will then be in a fight for the last seat with Boylan.
    While SF are traditionally transfer toxic a decent proportion of the smaller candidates are more closely aligned politically to SF than FF which could make things very interesting.


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    #762
    Westernyelp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    These days with the google and all it isn't hard to look things up instead of making an idiot of yourself.


    And yet...
    well you are very aggressive aren't you. you must not be a Green supporter


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    #763
    Sawduck
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    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    No, but they might well put taxes on the things that actually ARE a threat to the environment - plane flights, diesel engines, plastic, plastic, plastic.

    Planes and cars ugh, can't they tax big companies who endanger the environment instead


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    #764
    Blueshoe
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    blanch152 wrote: »
    Cuffe and Fitzgerald will take seats.

    Green surplus could decide between Daly, Andrews and Boylan for the last two seats. I think Boylan will lose out, but it is only exit poll.

    I don't understand how if you vote for someone your vote can be passed onto someone else. Or do I have it arseways


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    #765
    Nobelium
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    road_high wrote: »
    My personal experience of green (so called) voters are they are solidly middle class, live in a nice part of town, and take numerous foreign holidays (always very well travelled and let you know about it). Probably the highest carbon emissions of any citizens if the truth were told. I’ve found the climate change hysteria deeply nauseating tbh

    The rich can't wait to dodge carbon taxes by placing the carbon tax burden on the poorer of society.


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    #766
    road_high
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    alan partridge aha wrote: »
    Think Wallace has finally put the nail in the coffin of Malcolm Byrne doing anything other than a lowly councillor.

    Just shows with a certain cohort of voters that it pays dividends to invent a fake ordinary man persona rather than put forward any real policies or anything of any value that will progress the nation


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    #767
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,963 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Peter Casey rejected again. Hopefully that's the end of him.

    Twice rejected comfortably, the noise the man has generated - especially online - was always entirely disproportionate. All the waffle about silent majorities, or that he "says what people are thinking" again showed as projection and confirmation bias from disgruntleds, giving him more profile than he ever deserved. The media need to take some of the blame here too, latching onto his celebrity and half assed swipes at the traveler community, rather than focusing on the transparent nonsense otherwise spouted.

    I'm glad he has been rejected, as it at least maintains the thin veneer of politics in this country as having a civil, intelligent voting base, and not easily swept up by cheap populism and soundbites.


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    #768
    Blueshoe
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    road_high wrote: »
    Just shows with a certain cohort of voters that it pays dividends to invent a fake ordinary man persona rather than put forward any real policies or anything of any value that will progress the nation

    Wallace was one of the driving forces in exposing the McCabe scandal. He fights a good fight


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    #769
    road_high
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    Sawduck wrote: »
    Planes and cars ugh, can't they tax big companies who endanger the environment instead

    And who are the consumers of these “big evil companies”?


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    #770
    seligehgit
    Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    I don't understand how if you vote for someone your vote can be passed onto someone else. Or do I have it arseways

    Glad we've the single transferable vote (proportional representation) system which is far fairer and more representative of voters intentions than the UK's first past the post system


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    #771
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,398 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Wallace was one of the driving forces in exposing the McCabe scandal. He fights a good fight

    He’s a populist phoney with zilch to offer but each to their own


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    #772
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,782 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    road_high wrote: »
    He’s a populist phoney with zilch to offer but each to their own

    He was right about McCabe.


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    #773
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Glad we've the single transferable vote (proportional representation) system which is far fairer than the UK's first past the post system

    I don't understand it to be honest. Seems to me like I might vote for someone but my vote can somehow get passed onto some other person in the same party. I don't know why either


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    #774
    Westernyelp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    I don't understand how if you vote for someone your vote can be passed onto someone else. Or do I have it arseways
    Really?


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    #775
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,155 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    pixelburp wrote:
    I'm glad he has been rejected, as it at least maintains the thin veneer of politics in this country as having a civil, intelligent voting base, and not easily swept up by cheap populism and soundbites.

    Candidates going for the social/culture wars stuff tend not to get elected.

    Casey tried and failed, twice.


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    #776
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,782 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    I don't understand it to be honest. Seems to me like I might vote for someone but my vote can somehow get passed onto some other person in the same party. I don't know why either

    Only if ye continue to vote. You can stop after '1'.


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    #777
    Fan of Netflix
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    I won’t rule it out completely but SF are very transfer toxic. She’s in big trouble.
    I think Fianna Fail are nearly as transfer unfriendly in Dublin as Sinn Fein these days! Seems to be a lot of smaller leftie candidates there for her to get transfers from. Clearly Clare Daly took a lot of her vote


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    #778
    Blueshoe
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    Westernyelp wrote: »
    Really?

    Well it's never been explained to me. As far as I see it if I pick someone then that's it. It can't be just given to someone else for whatever reason. As I said maybe I have that wrong


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    #779
    Spanish Eyes
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    If and when sitting TDs get elected to EUP, next up are the by elections I presume.

    The only ones I can think of right now are Daly and Wallace. A match made in Strasbourg lol.


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    #780
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    I don't understand how if you vote for someone your vote can be passed onto someone else. Or do I have it arseways


    The system is a bit complicated, but your vote usually ends up electing, at most, one candidate.


    It can happen (it has happened to me) that your vote is for the last candidate eliminated, and doesn't actually help elect anyone at all and you might as well have gone to the pub instead of the polling station, but that is much less common than with systems used in the UK like FPTP or d'Hondt.


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    #781
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,889 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Decimated?


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