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Fairy rings

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭arctic8dave


    mikeymouse wrote: »
    DJ98 wrote: »
    What are peoples thoughts on these, have a fairly overgrown piece of land thst has neve been touched or grazed due to it being occupied by fairies, I would like to clean up this area and use it for grazing but am told that it would be very unlucky to do so, any thoughts?

    If it's marked on this map i'd leave it alone
    Thanks for link never came across this map before. A mass rock marked on the map is on our land. Always heard the grandfather & still does the father about talk about it supposedly it's a grave for unbaptized children. Small piece of a field that was fenced off years ago and now overgrown.
    Fairy's or not I'm not the one going to interfere with it anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,617 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I was always told the reason it was unlucky to move them is they were often used as burial sites in ancient times.
    I’d get it very hard to touch one but I know several who have, some have had terrible luck and some haven’t so I don’t see much in that old wives tale.

    I’d hold off OP, sooner or later there will be a scheme to wild portions of all farms and that surely would have you covered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Is it a protected structure

    it's protected by whom?

    the state? or the fairies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    flossy1 wrote: »
    I would leave it alone , small things will start to go wrong. For your own peace of mind

    Ah you can't be serious...

    Are superstitions still a thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,951 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    mikeymouse wrote: »
    If it's marked on this map i'd leave it alone

    looked at the map, my uncle said himself and my father leveled a very big one at home years ago, and true enough there is one noted at 60m diameter with 12-14 ft high banks that was leveled ~1980 but was recorded numerous times before then :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭Odelay


    2smiggy wrote: »
    looked at the map, my uncle said himself and my father leveled a very big one at home years ago, and true enough there is one noted at 60m diameter with 12-14 ft high banks that was leveled ~1980 but was recorded numerous times before then :eek:

    How are they now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭pms7


    mikeymouse wrote: »
    If it's marked on this map i'd leave it alone
    Thanks for that map, very interesting, have few items marked on farm and locally


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭mikeymouse


    pms7 wrote: »
    Thanks for that map, very interesting, have few items marked on farm and locally
    If you haven't found it already on the top black bar, on the right you'll find the 4 squares ;basemap gallery, will allow you to flip between old and new maps.
    surprising how accurate the old maps were.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Mod note:Some posts deleted just now. Behave, folks, you know better than that kind of BS,

    Buford T. Justice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,951 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    Odelay wrote: »
    How are they now?

    alright, thankfully !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    DJ98 wrote: »
    What are peoples thoughts on these, have a fairly overgrown piece of land thst has neve been touched or grazed due to it being occupied by fairies, I would like to clean up this area and use it for grazing but am told that it would be very unlucky to do so, any thoughts?

    Didn’t some farmer level a fairy fort a few years ago and got a fine of 25k in court?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    I know a family who interfered with one and got unexplained ultra incredible bad luck, no way to explain it in normal stats where members of their family died in crazy circumstances. Normally I think away with the fairies but I'd not touch one now.

    I know a few cases locally as well, one in particular was fairly bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    I know a few cases locally as well, one in particular was fairly bad.

    I know of someone who never touched a fairy ring in their life. Got cancer. Fairly bad alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    A fella told me the fairies turned him into a frog!!! :eek:

    Did they turn him back again seeing it wasn’t a frog told you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Unbelievable.
    In the 21st century too!

    Today we have the climate change fairytale that many people lap up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    Today we have the climate change fairytale that many people lap up.

    total hoax

    but fairies are real


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    lawred2 wrote: »
    total hoax

    but fairies are real

    You believe in fairies? It’s folklore. As for the other one, will somebody please think of the children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    jesus wept


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    lawred2 wrote: »
    jesus wept

    Aye, but he didn't level a fairy fort either...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Aye, but he didn't level a fairy fort either...

    if he made it as far as Oireland then he might have on grounds of false gods

    well he'd have to have existed first but you know what I mean..


  • Registered Users Posts: 848 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    The uncle went to knock one years ago , got desperate sick , never touched it again . Still believes it was the going at it caused it ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,253 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    The uncle went to knock one years ago , got desperate sick , never touched it again . Still believes it was the going at it caused it ,

    Person A thinks X item is superstitiously dangerous and should stay away from it.

    Person A goes ahead and interferes with said item, even thought they know they shouldn't.

    Every bad thing which subsequently happens to Person A confirms their original notion as being correct.

    You can literally do this with anything, as nobody goes through life unscathed, something bad will eventually happen.

    It's a good example of confirmation bias.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Person A thinks X item is superstitiously dangerous and should stay away from it.

    Person A goes ahead and interferes with said item, even thought they know they shouldn't.

    Every bad thing which subsequently happens to Person A confirms their original notion as being correct.

    You can literally do this with anything, as nobody goes through life unscathed, something bad will eventually happen.

    It's a good example of confirmation bias.

    It's a good point, I think most people will respect the past (if not the law) and not interfere with the Ring Forts, weather it's superstition or anything else. For most people you have to know there could be people buried there, or who know what else shouldn't be disturbed. A few years ago in the UK graves were being reopened in old church and I recall it being said they found traces of old disease that could be reactivated. I can't recall if it was small pox or something similar.

    Leave well enough alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I remember a programme on RTE a few years back, where they took DNA from remains in a burial site, thousands of years old in the Burren. They compared it to DNA of local children and found a few were matched as relatives. Local burial sites may have your family in them.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Still waters


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Person A thinks X item is superstitiously dangerous and should stay away from it.

    Person A goes ahead and interferes with said item, even thought they know they shouldn't.

    Every bad thing which subsequently happens to Person A confirms their original notion as being correct.

    You can literally do this with anything, as nobody goes through life unscathed, something bad will eventually happen.

    It's a good example of confirmation bias.

    I work 1 or 2 Sundays most months, I've been told by my soon to be father in law and brother in law that I wont have a minutes luck, told the same by a close friend, 2 of them are very religious, I'd say they're only waiting for me to have an accident so they can spout about how I work Sundays and it was bound to happen, you can see logic in most nonsense if you try hard enough


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,259 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    We have a well known monument in our land and my logic is idhould be able to get through my 70 odd years on this planet and make a living without interfering with 5000 years of history


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭390kid


    I work 1 or 2 Sundays most months, I've been told by my soon to be father in law and brother in law that I wont have a minutes luck, told the same by a close friend, 2 of them are very religious, I'd say they're only waiting for me to have an accident so they can spout about how I work Sundays and it was bound to happen, you can see logic in most nonsense if you try hard enough

    The aul lad used to be at us about working on a Sunday. That’s why our cattle would never settle and keep breaking out. Anyway over time we didn’t need to work Sunday for other people and the cattle quit rambling. He always reminds us of that. Funny thing he never mentions the purchase of 2 mains fencers posts and wire!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    390kid wrote: »
    The aul lad used to be at us about working on a Sunday. That’s why our cattle would never settle and keep breaking out. Anyway over time we didn’t need to work Sunday for other people and the cattle quit rambling. He always reminds us of that. Funny thing he never mentions the purchase of 2 mains fencers posts and wire!

    In more religious times - no farm work would have been done on a Sunday. And in some households the family would walk to the church rather than using and harnessing the horse and cart. My grandmother would had a canary if washing was put out on a Sunday ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    gozunda wrote: »
    In more religious times - no farm work would have been done on a Sunday. And in some households the family would walk to the church rather than using and harnessing the horse and cart. My grandmother would had a canary if washing was put out on a Sunday ;)

    We used to have a chicken.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    gozunda wrote: »
    In more religious times - no farm work would have been done on a Sunday. And in some households the family would walk to the church rather than using and harnessing the horse and cart. My grandmother would had a canary if washing was put out on a Sunday ;)

    Under a William III & Mary Act it was an offence to work or play on the Sabbath, fines were imposed at the Local Petty Sessions.

    “1864 25th January (CJ).
    --- Sub-Constables Elliott and Neylon against seven little boys for kicking an Indian rubber football in a field after 3 o’clock p.m. on Sunday the 10th inst., in violation of the Act for the better observance of the Sabbath. – They were let off on paying one-shilling costs each. –

    http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/history/kilrush_notes_1760_1960/court_sessions1.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,220 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump






    25k doesn't seem like a big enough fine.


    He might have increased the value of the land he bought by that much or more having destroyed it (if having the monument there had placed restrictions on it that would have devalued it prior!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,220 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    I remember a programme on RTE a few years back, where they took DNA from remains in a burial site, thousands of years old in the Burren. They compared it to DNA of local children and found a few were matched as relatives. Local burial sites may have your family in them.




    Well they do tend to keep the genes within the family by marrying cousins down there :p






    (Although being serious, if you go back that far, there's a good chance that any kid anywhere in Ireland will have some of those genes)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭endainoz


    The two sites in our place are marked out on the map. One is a ring fort that's not touched and down as an archeological site for GLAS and the other is a mound that was used to hang people! We used to have our bonfire for St. John's night on it as its a prominent area that can be seen from a good distance. It was then declared an SAC and an taisce made us stop putting the fire there in the late 90s. As a kid at the time I was a bit pissed off about it, but over time I can see why they stopped us doing it. There have been a couple of digs there but no bones or anything we're found. There is also an unproven theory the some of the Spanish Armada we're captured and hanged there, supposedly there is a mass grave somewhere but it's yet to be found.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭alps


    Really think our respect in Ireland for a Sunday is appalling...

    Quiet apart from any religious ideals, people deserve a day off...famailies could do with family time......a day out now with the family is going to the shopping mall...well with whatever parent isnt working...sick..

    How can we not buy what we need in 6 days...

    Government do business on a Sunday....Why?

    Tricky Dickey signed in the Nitrates Directive on a Sunday...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    alps wrote: »
    Really think our respect in Ireland for a Sunday is appalling...

    Quiet apart from any religious ideals, people deserve a day off...famailies could do with family time......a day out now with the family is going to the shopping mall...well with whatever parent isnt working...sick..

    How can we not buy what we need in 6 days...

    Government do business on a Sunday....Why?

    Tricky Dickey signed in the Nitrates Directive on a Sunday...

    I 100% agree with you re people deserve a day off - but why should it be Sunday?

    If you aren't religious, than whats the difference between a Saturday and a Sunday?

    Kids here have things on Saturdays, as would the case with a lot of people I'd imagine - sports, etc. I try to take them, so thats Saturday morning, and then depending on weather, we might try to do something as family Saturday afternoon (not shopping!) :)

    so I would sometimes do some farming Sunday morning to catch up. I dont see anything wrong with it...

    But, it seems in your eyes its terrible...

    alps wrote: »
    well with whatever parent isnt working...sick..
    .
    I assume you aren't a dairy farmer, and so aren't milking cows yourself on a Sunday? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    alps wrote: »
    Really think our respect in Ireland for a Sunday is appalling...

    Quiet apart from any religious ideals, people deserve a day off...famailies could do with family time......a day out now with the family is going to the shopping mall...well with whatever parent isnt working...sick..

    How can we not buy what we need in 6 days...

    Government do business on a Sunday....Why?

    Tricky Dickey signed in the Nitrates Directive on a Sunday...

    Why not Tuesday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    endainoz wrote: »
    The two sites in our place are marked out on the map. One is a ring fort that's not touched and down as an archeological site for GLAS and the other is a mound that was used to hang people! We used to have our bonfire for St. John's night on it as its a prominent area that can be seen from a good distance. It was then declared an SAC and an taisce made us stop putting the fire there in the late 90s. As a kid at the time I was a bit pissed off about it, but over time I can see why they stopped us doing it. There have been a couple of digs there but no bones or anything we're found. There is also an unproven theory the some of the Spanish Armada we're captured and hanged there, supposedly there is a mass grave somewhere but it's yet to be found.

    what did an taisce do? they have no power in their own right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭endainoz


    ganmo wrote:
    what did an taisce do? they have no power in their own right


    Well I was young at the time it may not have been an taisce but it was the fact the the hill was a designated SAC so no bonfires could go on it anymore. I agree with their ideals and beliefs, not so much lately with what they are trying to teach in schools but that's a topic for another day!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    endainoz wrote: »
    The two sites in our place are marked out on the map. One is a ring fort that's not touched and down as an archeological site for GLAS and the other is a mound that was used to hang people! We used to have our bonfire for St. John's night on it as its a prominent area that can be seen from a good distance.

    Seems like a good traditional use for such a spot. Hardly doing much extra damage if used that way going back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭endainoz


    BarryD2 wrote:
    Seems like a good traditional use for such a spot. Hardly doing much extra damage if used that way going back.

    Well it wasn't originally used for bonfires, more for hangings. Anyway cattle still graze around it, I'm genuinely ok with not having fires there anymore. Still celebrate June 23rd elsewhere each year!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Under a William III & Mary Act it was an offence to work or play on the Sabbath, fines were imposed at the Local Petty Sessions.

    “1864 25th January (CJ).
    --- Sub-Constables Elliott and Neylon against seven little boys for kicking an Indian rubber football in a field after 3 o’clock p.m. on Sunday the 10th inst., in violation of the Act for the better observance of the Sabbath. – They were let off on paying one-shilling costs each. –

    http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/history/kilrush_notes_1760_1960/court_sessions1.htm

    Not just the peelers - in the 1880 the local parish priest in the interest of morality - reportedly put an end to dancing, card playing or other shenanigans on Sundays to prevent such things as fornication and other deadly sins ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    We used to have a chicken.

    Trust me the canary would easily last a week or more :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭vincenzolorenzo



    Thats brilliant! I've seen those Ronan Kelly videos before, they're very interesting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,766 ✭✭✭✭Say my name



    It would have been interesting to see.

    I never heard tell of that before. Seemingly only possible with granite rock.
    I guess I won't see one like it now in Ireland anymore either. :rolleyes:

    I'd say there was a fair difference in the IQ of the people who worked on that fort between the millennia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭mikeymouse




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann



    http://bit.ly/2IukH3o

    Up there any sort of a fine will not be received well. Lets hope it's well into the five figures.

    vXLrnDd.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,766 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    riemann wrote: »
    http://bit.ly/2IukH3o

    Up there any sort of a fine will not be received well. Lets hope it's well into the five figures.

    Hopefully it's the forestry company and the landowner fined in equal measure.

    Better still, get them to build the walls again and fire the outside of it to molten rock. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Hopefully it's the forestry company and the landowner fined in equal measure.

    Better still, get them to build the walls again and fire the outside of it to molten rock. :pac:

    I’d say someone is practicing their “surprised” look.


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