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US Greencard Through Diversity Lotto

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  • #1352
    Dublin991
    Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Dublin991


    I have just been i formed i have my embassy interview in May.

    What exactly will I need? If i have a job offer how much savings will be sufficient?


  • #1353
    minidazzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    jme2010 wrote: »
    Simple. Step 1. Let her know you are Irish in your best Irish brogue. Step 2. Green Card Marriage. :P

    Doesn't work... they always decide they want to live here... trust me on that!

    *finishes packing for holiday to see american girlfriend*

    As much as i dislike the policies... I'm kinda banking on trumps inherent racism to hope i get my application picked this year.


  • #1354
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    minidazzler wrote: »
    As much as i dislike the policies... I'm kinda banking on trumps inherent racism to hope i get my application picked this year.

    Theoretically he would prefer bringing in folks from NW Europe, rather than Tichickyshetieikzackistan or somewhere.

    That either means removing from the list a whole load of countries (that have historically done very well), or a dropping the DV program altogether, and having a totally new points-based system.


  • #1355
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,255 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    fleet wrote: »
    Another way to look at it is: start at 18 and by 27, finished college, saved a few quid you'd have had a 1 in 5 chance. One in two by the time you hit 41. Not bad frankly. Throw in other avenues, sponsorship, alternatives such as Canada, Australia or more exciting Asian countries and you're basically guaranteed to get permanent residency somewhere warm (except Canada!) outside Ireland if you want it.


    Well your maths is wrong. Assuming the chances of success in any given year as 2.15127% from the above, the probability of success only surpasses 50% if you assume at least 32 entries... i.e. when you are 49 assuming entry number 1 at 18 and you enter every year. 41 (24 entries) gets you to 40.66%.


    But look on the bright side, if a person plans to enter every year from age 18, up to and including age 81, then there will be a 75.14% probability that they'll win.

    Assuming the submit up to age 123 will bring the stat to just over 90% :-)


    Age
    18 2.2%
    19 4.3%
    20 6.3%
    21 8.3%
    22 10.3%
    23 12.2%
    24 14.1%
    25 16.0%
    26 17.8%
    27 19.5%
    28 21.3%
    29 23.0%
    30 24.6%
    31 26.2%
    32 27.8%
    33 29.4%
    34 30.9%
    35 32.4%
    36 33.8%
    37 35.3%
    38 36.7%
    39 38.0%
    40 39.4%
    41 40.7%
    42 41.9%
    43 43.2%
    44 44.4%
    45 45.6%
    46 46.8%
    47 47.9%
    48 49.0%
    49 50.1%
    50 51.2%
    51 52.3%
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    55 56.2%
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    72 69.8%
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    77 72.9%
    78 73.5%
    79 74.0%
    80 74.6%
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  • #1356
    jme2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    I don't think that's how probability works guys.

    Each time you do a lottery you have the same chance of winning it as the previous try, given the number of combinations are the same.

    By your logic if I rolled a die 6 times I have the best chance of getting the number I want on the 6th roll if that number has not come up before.

    Not to derail the thread or anything


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  • #1357
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    jme2010 wrote: »
    I don't think that's how probability works guys.

    Each time you do a lottery you have the same chance of winning it as the previous try, given the number of combinations are the same.

    By your logic if I rolled a die 6 times I have the best chance of getting the number I want on the 6th roll if that number has not come up before.

    Not to derail the thread or anything

    Yes, and no. Yes, the chance of 2% or whatever it is remains static, but the number of 'attempts' will therefore increase overall chances.

    The principle of 'if your not in you can't win', multiplied.

    e.g. If I ask 100 ladies at a singles bar if they fancy a bit of horizontal-romance-recreational times, sure sooner or later someone would accept the invitation, before the night is out even though each individual chance may about 2% to begin with.

    As a side topic, I've calculated^- that at least one of the following numbers may well appear in this Friday's Euromillions 1, 16, 42, 43. Possibly also 18, 30, 49 if you're looking for two. ^No guarantee, but some amount of 'appearance expectation' exists.

    For the next DV there is possibility of further chances due to the possibility of Chad, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen all being removed in the near future, assuming it still continues.


  • #1358
    jme2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    Draw is on Tuesday, right?

    I have my IEC visa and will be planning to move to Canada in July.

    I think my opinion of living in the US has changed over the last year. With all the mass shootings and Trump economy, Canada looked way more attractive to me while still giving that 'Americanised' feeling.

    I don't know what I would do if my number was called for the lottery now that I have an IEC to try.


  • #1359
    oB1
    Registered Users Posts: 706 ✭✭✭oB1


    jme2010 wrote: »
    Draw is on Tuesday, right?

    I have my IEC visa and will be planning to move to Canada in July.

    I think my opinion of living in the US has changed over the last year. With all the mass shootings and Trump economy, Canada looked way more attractive to me while still giving that 'Americanised' feeling.

    I don't know what I would do if my number was called for the lottery now that I have an IEC to try.
    Draw is on Tuesday, right?

    Yes.

    Considering the odds of actually getting selected, you would be incredibly stupid not to proceed with the Green Card application. If you got selected and did not proceed, imagine how those of us who would give their right arm for a green card would feel? - it would be a wasted opportunity.

    I appreciate your perspective, though.


  • #1360
    hypochondriac
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭hypochondriac


    There is a very helpful website that covers all the aspects of DV lottery winning: BRITSIMON SAYS

    http://britsimonsays.com/interview-experience-stories/

    You can also visit 2016, 2017 DV WINNERS MEET HERE FORUMS and study all the threads. I suppose this study is needed to make sure you do all the steps right and all the knowledge you build up in the process of reading those threads is invaluable. You cam also post questions in those immigration threads and get prompt answers from people who have been moderators of the forum, better than any attorney. Good luck.


  • #1361
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,961 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Anyone with any luck?


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  • #1362
    jme2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    markodaly wrote: »
    Anyone with any luck?

    No luck for me or my partner - this must be the 3rd or 4th attempt. So 6-8 entries in total.

    We do have our IEC visa's though :D

    Maybe in 2-3 years if we have Canadian citizenship we will finally move in to the States. All you need is a job offer, no sponsorship for CA citizens.


  • #1363
    circular flexing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    jme2010 wrote: »
    No luck for me or my partner - this must be the 3rd or 4th attempt. So 6-8 entries in total.

    We do have our IEC visa's though :D

    Maybe in 2-3 years if we have Canadian citizenship we will finally move in to the States. All you need is a job offer, no sponsorship for CA citizens.

    Canadian citizenship is probably closer to 5 years, need at least 3 years residency (excluding any time spent in US/overseas) and the process takes about a year. Even then the job offer has to be in specific roles and is completely dependent on NAFTA and who knows where that might end up. Finally the TN visas don't lead to a green card.


  • #1364
    myate
    Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    No luck on this front...4th year trying for myself & herself. Probably my last realistic shot too as hitting 40 next year, not exactly wanting to change careers at 42 in a new country (if I was to be successful next year)!!


  • #1365
    jme2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    circular flexing wrote: »
    Even then the job offer has to be in specific roles, TN visas don't lead to a green card.

    I'm a software engineer so at least the role box is ticket. Sure we'll see how Canada goes.


  • #1366
    younggalway
    Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭younggalway


    I applied for the first time and was unsuccesful. Have to admit I was not overly dissapointed as I have a job lined up for after college in September so hoping there might be opportunities for transfer with them two years down the line once I have some experience.

    Also reassuring to see people in their forties applying (no reason that they shouldn't of course), I've just turned 25 having taken a very scenic route through education :D and was worried I might lose interest by the time in 27/28.


  • #1367
    Fr Tod Umptious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,417 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Is there a DV 2020 lottery, i.e application process something 10/2018 ?

    I don't seem to see much official about one

    Or I may be looking in the wrong place.

    Also does anyone know if one can win it twice ?

    I was successful back in DV-99 and lived there for a few years

    But I left before getting citizenship and let my green card lapse (the US was no longer my primary residency)

    Does that exclude me if I won it again I wonder ?


  • #1368
    myate
    Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    Yes there is a 2020 lottery. October to November entry as normal.


    This guy is the guy in the know, he'd be the one to ask about winning twice - http://britsimonsays.com/dv-2020-to-be-announced-tomorrow/


  • #1369
    scdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 643 ✭✭✭scdublin


    Think I've applied 4 times now and no luck. Fingers crossed for this time!


  • #1370
    jme2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    scdublin wrote: »
    Think I've applied 4 times now and no luck. Fingers crossed for this time!


    If you're under 35, why not try Canada?


    I had tried 4 years for the DV lottery. Instead I applied for Canada and got accepted straight away. Now I'm sipping coffee in my condo apartment looking at a skyscraper view of downtown Toronto.


    The traffic lights are yellow, free right turns, red fire trucks, sports bars on every corner, taco bell's and wendys everywhere, 90 minute drive to Buffalo New York....for all intents and purposes this is basically America, but with nicer people, eh?



    So to anyone reading this who is desperate to win the DV lottery and matches the criteria, just come to Canada instead.



    Some other nice things are free health care and a very open minded population.



    Fly to Los Angles in under 5 hours and as cheap as €250 return.


  • #1371
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭cena


    I have gone and entered my date of birth the wrong way round


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  • #1372
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭cena


    I have gone and entered my date of birth the wrong way round


  • #1373
    jme2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    cena wrote: »
    I have gone and entered my date of birth the wrong way round

    lol

    Just back from a long weekend road trip to Atlantic City from Toronto.

    Consider moving to Canada. The US boarder agent gave me a piece of paper in my passport thats valid for 3 months. Said 'come back as much as you like'

    Only a few weeks ago we drove to NYC. Ridiculous stuff.


  • #1374
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    cena wrote: »
    I have gone and entered my date of birth the wrong way round

    Some would say you failed on the 'unofficial basic logic competence test', but who knows it may be overlooked, hard really to say for sure.

    Some interesting figures from previous draw: 14.7m applicants, 55,000 visas.

    ROI Apps: 10,000c GC offered: x123 = 1.23 % chance
    NIR Apps: 2,000c GC offered: x16 = 0.8% chance

    Generally 100/1 chance.


  • #1375
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,255 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Raelyn Hot Magenta wrote: »
    Some would say you failed on the 'unofficial basic logic competence test', but who knows it may be overlooked, hard really to say for sure.

    Some interesting figures from previous draw: 14.7m applicants, 55,000 visas.

    ROI Apps: 10,000c GC offered: x123 = 1.23 % chance
    NIR Apps: 2,000c GC offered: x16 = 0.8% chance

    Generally 100/1 chance.




    I think 5000 of those 55000 are ringfenced and not really available


  • #1376
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    I think 5000 of those 55000 are ringfenced and not really available

    Perhaps, if the term from 2020 applies to the DV2020 taking place currently in 2018.

    Don really doesn't like the bad hombres, think that 5k are being taken from S.America region.


  • #1377
    RCK1
    Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    The information is great on this thread thanks!

    Entered into the lottery again for the second time. Living/Working in the states has always been something I wanted to do so here's hoping for a ALOT of luck in getting it.

    I'm sure it's probably being discussed(just say the page numbers if so) do they check your savings/ how much do you need and also is there a time limit on the green card to activate it etc...?

    Thanks


  • #1378
    jme2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    RCK1 wrote: »
    Living/Working in the states has always been something I wanted to do so here's hoping for a ALOT of luck in getting it.

    Come to Canada. Looks and sounds like America. Drive to Seattle or New York every weekend if you please.

    No 'luck' needed just fill out the forms and start a new life :D


  • #1379
    RCK1
    Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    jme2010 wrote: »
    Come to Canada. Looks and sounds like America. Drive to Seattle or New York every weekend if you please.

    No 'luck' needed just fill out the forms and start a new life :D

    And also without the orange one. I definitely going to look into it.


  • #1380
    jme2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    RCK1 wrote: »
    And also without the orange one. I definitely going to look into it.


    Haha. Definitely look in to it. I heard somebody refer to him as 'angry pumpkin' which I thought was hilarious.


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  • #1381
    RCK1
    Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    jme2010 wrote: »
    Haha. Definitely look in to it. I heard somebody refer to him as 'angry pumpkin' which I thought was hilarious.

    Will have look. I just stuck with the old romantic idea of the US/American dream ! Which is probably no more


  • #1382
    Duckworth_Luas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    RCK1 wrote: »
    The information is great on this thread thanks!

    Entered into the lottery again for the second time. Living/Working in the states has always been something I wanted to do so here's hoping for a ALOT of luck in getting it.

    I'm sure it's probably being discussed(just say the page numbers if so) do they check your savings/ how much do you need and also is there a time limit on the green card to activate it etc...?

    Thanks
    Yes the check your savings. You have to prove that you have enough money to support yourself for at least a year while you look for a job.

    The figure the use is what they consider the US poverty line. Three years this was set at $13k-$14k but may be higher now.

    You have to get a letter from your bank showing how much is in your account. You must also show that this money was saved over time, not just a loan from someone deposited the day before the interview.

    As for the time question, Applicants are chosen in order and this number will be supplied to you. Each month a set of applicants will be chosen for interview in each of the regions involved based on this order.

    Once your number comes up you have to do a medical, then do the interview. From the date of the medical you have 6 months to enter the USA and activate the green card.

    Once activated you can still return home, but not for a period of over 12 months. In such a case you will be considered to have rescinded the card.


  • #1383
    él statutorio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭él statutorio


    Duckworth_Luas wrote: »
    Yes the check your savings. You have to prove that you have enough money to support yourself for at least a year while you look for a job.

    The figure the use is what they consider the US poverty line. Three years this was set at $13k-$14k but may be higher now.

    You have to get a letter from your bank showing how much is in your account. You must also show that this money was saved over time, not just a loan from someone deposited the day before the interview.

    As for the time question, Applicants are chosen in order and this number will be supplied to you. Each month a set of applicants will be chosen for interview in each of the regions involved based on this order.

    Once your number comes up you have to do a medical, then do the interview. From the date of the medical you have 6 months to enter the USA and activate the green card.

    Once activated you can still return home, but not for a period of over 12 months. In such a case you will be considered to have rescinded the card.

    Ehh, no that's not right.

    You can return home, I did plenty of times in my first 12 months and my green card was not rescinded.


  • #1384
    circular flexing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    él statutorio wrote: »
    Ehh, no that's not right.

    You can return home, I did plenty of times in my first 12 months and my green card was not rescinded.


    If you leave for longer than 12 months then it could be determined that you have abandoned your green card, depending the circumstances.


  • #1385
    él statutorio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭él statutorio


    circular flexing wrote: »
    If you leave for longer than 12 months then it could be determined that you have abandoned your green card, depending the circumstances.

    Correct, I guess I read the other posters line differently.


  • #1386
    myate
    Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    Today is the day for lottery results! Or rather tomorrow as the website never works on results day!


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  • #1387
    jme2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    myate wrote: »
    Today is the day for lottery results! Or rather tomorrow as the website never works on results day!

    Pffft...Canada all the way, pal.


  • #1388
    RCK1
    Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    jme2010 wrote: »
    Pffft...Canada all the way, pal.

    No luck again with the lottery so thats now a consideration.


  • #1389
    jme2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    RCK1 wrote: »
    No luck again with the lottery so thats now a consideration.

    I've have a lot of more US companies contacting me about roles, now that I'm living in Canada with a Canadian address etc.

    They assume I'm Canadian (which would mean I don't need any sponsorship or special visa, just a job offer)

    My buddy from Ireland is here 5 years and getting his citizenship. Once he has that, he could except any job offer from the States and work there with ease.

    That could be your alternate route, but once you get settled here and see that it is better than America in every way you'll give up on moving and simply drive in for vacation or hop a very short flight to any coast or point in the States.

    Here's the flight time for me in Toronto to US destinations:


    New York: .......1 hour 20 min
    Miami:.............3 hours
    Dallas:.............3 hours 10 min
    Phoenix:...........4 hours 20 min
    Las Vegas:........4 hours 35 min
    Los Angeles: ....5 hours


  • #1390
    RCK1
    Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭RCK1


    jme2010 wrote: »
    I've have a lot of more US companies contacting me about roles, now that I'm living in Canada with a Canadian address etc.

    They assume I'm Canadian (which would mean I don't need any sponsorship or special visa, just a job offer)

    My buddy from Ireland is here 5 years and getting his citizenship. Once he has that, he could except any job offer from the States and work there with ease.

    That could be your alternate route, but once you get settled here and see that it is better than America in every way you'll give up on moving and simply drive in for vacation or hop a very short flight to any coast or point in the States.

    Here's the flight time for me in Toronto to US destinations:


    New York: .......1 hour 20 min
    Miami:.............3 hours
    Dallas:.............3 hours 10 min
    Phoenix:...........4 hours 20 min
    Las Vegas:........4 hours 35 min
    Los Angeles: ....5 hours

    Tempting alright! Toronto sounds like a cool place anyway.


  • #1391
    zielarz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭zielarz


    jme2010 wrote: »
    That could be your alternate route, but once you get settled here and see that it is better than America in every way you'll give up on moving and simply drive in for vacation or hop a very short flight to any coast or point in the States.

    Better winters?....try to not freeze to death and enjoy the benefit of all the taxes :D

    God bless America!


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  • #1392
    jme2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    zielarz wrote: »
    Better winters?....try to not freeze to death and enjoy the benefit of all the taxes :D

    God bless America!

    Enjoy the free health care....oh wait.


  • #1393
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭cena


    jme2010 wrote: »
    Enjoy the free health care....oh wait.

    ???


  • #1394
    jme2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    cena wrote: »
    ???

    zielarz poked fun of Canada's winters. I poked fun of America's healthcare.


  • #1395
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭cena


    jme2010 wrote: »
    zielarz poked fun of Canada's winters. I poked fun of America's healthcare.

    canada winters would be great for ice hockey. i would love it


  • #1396
    lilmissprincess
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭lilmissprincess


    Lottery is set to open later today (October 2), who is applying from here?


  • #1397
    sashafierce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


    lilmissprincess wrote: »
    Lottery is set to open later today (October 2), who is applying from here?

    I will be applying again..... I didn't apply last year but applied for about 5 years before that


  • #1398
    CyberGhost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭CyberGhost


    lilmissprincess wrote: »
    Lottery is set to open later today (October 2), who is applying from here?

    Is there an official link to apply? I've never applied. I'm getting some sites which state that you need to pay. As far as I know, it's free?


  • #1399
    sashafierce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


    Can anyone tell me what they used to resize their photos. Mine won't allow me to resize to 600x600 pixels


  • #1400
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Struth, there was less than 20 cards awarded for DV-2020 for either NI & ROI, chances are getting very slim these days.
    Meanwhile Albania managed over 3,000.


  • #1401
    BaronVon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    CyberGhost wrote: »
    Is there an official link to apply? I've never applied. I'm getting some sites which state that you need to pay. As far as I know, it's free?

    https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/diversity-visa-program-entry.html


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