"Book readers" - Season 8 Episode 4 "The Last of the Stark" - Spoilers post 2 fo

lawlolawl wrote: »

Here's Cersei in S6 looking towards the barren plain that the final scene of last nights episode took place in.


Look at all that flat desert land!

It was barren because they had felled all the trees for the war effort. The area around Winterfell was also barren before the battle their for the same reason. For why it was so flat, I've got nothing.

lawlolawl wrote: »

Here's Cersei in S6 looking towards the barren plain that the final scene of last nights episode took place in.


Look at all that flat desert land!

Can’t wait for your next one of these.

razorblunt wrote: »

Re-watching it with the Mrs here, if Cersei was committed to killing Missandei, why not line the arrows up at the stationary dragon too?
Or was he just out of range?
To be safe why not put him into the little valley behind him.

Well, apparently they shoot in a dead straight line losing no power for at least 5km. And have instant reload time, quickly than an artillery shell. They can even hit you from behind hills

Well that was mostly ****e. The Brienne Jaime sex scene was pure fan service. The Bronn Jaime and Tyrion reunion, underwhelming. They cut away from Jon/Bran explaining his parentage why? I was expecting a **** load more pathos to be wrung from Jon saying goodbye to Sam, Tormund and Ghost, but it's all very 'see you later' and he pawns Ghost off without so much as a pet. The good guys are out manoeuvred and ambushed again. Its getting beyond a joke now, they're a step below tripping on their own shoelaces or taking a rake to the face after standing on it in their comical incompetence.

The only scenes that worked for me were Jon and Dany's fire side scene with Dany's becoming increasingly crazed, the Gendry Arya scene with its nice callback to her conversation with Ned about "that's not me", and Tyrion and Varys talking about who would make the better ruler.

David Nutter had 80 minutes to get Dany cheering and swigging a Dornish Latté in Winterfell to her watching Missandeis head fly from the walls of Meereen, sorry King Landing. The show had to take a breath but also launch forward the second half of the season storyline. It was going to feel rushed in parts. It was and the quality fell in places.

I loved the opening half hour. Jon sounded like a King honoring the dead, Tyrion noticeably impressed. The great hall meal starts off slow in a sombre mood broken by Dany by honouring Gendry. Sansa is disgusted, Theon is still crisping outside and Dany rejoins the Game of Thrones and secures the Stormlands in one move. We got our first paranoid shot of Dany in the hall, Jons followers with their collars turned, Lannisters lions laughing, Varys is the only one who immediately sees the danger, knowing the family history. I immediately wondered what Littlefinger would be like in that room as Dany starred at all the strangers with their backs to her as her Latté cooled but I've come to the realisation that Sansa is fulfilling Littlefingers role here in a way and starts to meddle when she lights an idea in Tyrions head that could kill a Dragon Queen.

The discussions between Tyrion and Varys before and after the Euron attack is what Game of Thrones us about. The conspirators behind the throne that control who lives and who dies, the soft players who don't seek the actual thrones themselves but understand where real power likes like Tywin, Roose, Olenna & Littlefinger.

Dany retreat from Eurons attack also spoke volumes, she abandoned her unsullied, her advisors and her fleet. When you put Jon Snow in her position and recall is charge to save Rickon in BotB is really highlights the difference between the two Targs. The unsettled rage in Danys eyes at the end was so telling of her mindset for the next episode and her only fully loyal general Grey worm will gunhoe to the point of suicide and is of no use and Missandei last words might as well have been Burn Them All"

There was some much needed comic relief from Thormund and Pod. Bronns scene was rushed but it served a purpose to get Jaime out of Winterfell. The death of Raeghal was the shock the story runners wanted. It left a cheap after taste for me tbh but it was a quick way to even the playing field to make the next episode more hazarous and Dany more unhinged.

With all the imperfections I still enjoyed the character development and we've come to a point now where the next battle wont be some black and white as the Long Night.

With all these rushed scenes they still had time to show Tyrion and Davos in the back of the great hall talking about the Lord of Light, I kinda felt that scene hinted towards some unfinished magical aspect is still left to play out.

Jaysus this is bad.

Laughably bad in fact. And I'm not talking about the coffee

What a stupid waste of a dragon. They were ambushed by some ships while they're that height in the sky?
And those harpoons were laser guided?


And Misandre is just a bloody translator ffs.
Cersie "let's show them we mean business - we'll kill their translator"

And what the **** was with Dany's army outside the gates? There was like 50 soldiers.
Cersei should have just rushed opened fire and ended the whole thing.

The White Wolf wrote: »

Dany loves Missandei but of course, Cersei isn't to know that.

It's gas, if this was the books I'd laugh at Cersei stupidly and unknowingly poking the Dragon by killing what she believes to be a lowly servant of Dany's, when in actual fact she is a dear loved one and advisor.

However I'm sure show Cersei will be portrayed as having pulled yet another stroke of genius that will contribute to Dany's downfall. Bull****.

Of course she would know that! Spying and information gathering have been a thing in the show since it started. It's not like Dany kept it a secret that she was close to Missandei and Cersei would obviously have been trying to gather information on what she sees as the greatest threat to the throne.