"Non book readers" - Season 8 Episode 3 "The Long Night" - Spoilers post 2 forwa

threeball · 30-04-2019 12:17AM

GSPfan wrote: »

The more I think of it if they didn’t want Jon killing the Night King they should of had Sam do it somehow as he has been involved in the WW arc this whole time. Having Jon being beaten and about to die only for Sam to kill him would of made sense. The ultimate coward who was ridiculed at the Nights Watch ending the threat of the Night King would of given Sam his conclusion. The Night King was very cocky so that could of played into the reason why he turned his back on Sam.

Way back when the red witch met up with Beric to take Baratheon she said to Beric that the Lord of light needed someone they had. She incorrectly identified Baratheon as that person but it was in fact Arya who was also with the group at the time.

Asus X540L · 30-04-2019 12:18AM

ceegee wrote: »

Needle isn't made of Valyrian steel so wouldn't kill him. She could have done that with the dagger but it'd require cutting off Bran's face first

Needle is though?
Ned melted down some valyrian steel sword and made needle and something else I think

threeball · 30-04-2019 12:19AM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Brilliant, epic episode, really well put together. If you couldn't enjoy that, GOT is not for you.

This episode is the antithesis of what GOT has been about for years so don't know what you're talking about.

threeball · 30-04-2019 12:19AM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Brilliant, epic episode, really well put together. If you couldn't enjoy that, GOT is not for you.

This episode is the antithesis of what GOT has been about for years so don't know what you're talking about.

Asus X540L · 30-04-2019 12:21AM

Did they get rid of poor ghost?
Last I saw he was galloping into battle with the dothraki

GSPfan · 30-04-2019 12:21AM

threeball wrote: »

Way back when the red witch met up with Beric to take Baratheon she said to Beric that the Lord of light needed someone they had. She incorrectly identified Baratheon as that person but it was in fact Arya who was also with the group at the time.

She’s said a lot of things. She’s been wrong throughout the whole show so I don’t think Arya being in that group meant she was destined to kill the NK.

I’ve no real issue with it but it doesn’t make sense and that’s fine but people trying to create sense is pure wishful thinking. Arya being a fan favourite and female has played a massive part in the decision to elevate her to NK slayer status.

30-04-2019 12:22AM

messinkiapina wrote: »

I generally dislike Sci-Fi and Marvel type stuff specifically for this reason. I was drawn in by GOT because it broke all those rules in the first few seasons. It's become just like all the other predictable good vs evil shows now though. Really disappointing.

Then its a good thing that the Night King and the undead army are gone then surely? GoT's most brutal scenes is human on human violence driven by the human qualities that are plotting, deception and betrayal etc. I suspect we'll see plenty of this in the last 3 eps. Remember: there be no happy endings here.

Charlie19 · 30-04-2019 12:23AM

Just watched the three episodes back to back and tbh I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight.

Twenty Grand · 30-04-2019 12:25AM

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

schwarzenegger voice: Ice to see you.

"Night night"

GSPfan · 30-04-2019 12:25AM

Charlie19 wrote: »

Just watched the three episodes back to back and tbh I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight.

You must have got a few hours kip during the first two episodes yeah? Thats why?

How Soon Is Now · 30-04-2019 12:25AM

GSPfan wrote: »

She’s said a lot of things. She’s been wrong throughout the whole show so I don’t think Arya being in that group meant she was destined to kill the NK.

I’ve no real issue with it but it doesn’t make sense and that’s fine but people trying to create sense is pure wishful thinking. Arya being a fan favourite and female has played a massive part in the decision to elevate her to NK slayer status.

Glad you said this and I didn't have to haha. My post history wouldnt of held the point up well!!

Drumpot · 30-04-2019 12:26AM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Brilliant, epic episode, really well put together. If you couldn't enjoy that, GOT is not for you.

Join me as I light a candle for the poor souls those who didn’t enjoy that....

30-04-2019 12:27AM

Could you imagine the amount of XP Arya must have got from that kill

Assetbacked · 30-04-2019 12:28AM

Arya has had the archetypal hero story: good upbringing followed by heartbreak, exile and "death" then the heroic recovery. A clear similarity is the movie of Batman Begins.

As with Batman, I think this is as far as Arya's story goes. Hero and saviour but not the ruler the people deserve.

Scruff · 30-04-2019 12:30AM

Gives a great sense of the scale of the production for this episode regardless of whether it did it for you or not.
Episode, not blockbuster one off movie remember!

https://youtu.be/_3M0Xt97aFI

Also good to hear the directors perspective on the flow and sequence of events

no.8 · 30-04-2019 12:30AM

GSPfan wrote:

Iâ€™ve no real issue with it but it doesnâ€™t make sense and thatâ€™s fine but people trying to create sense is pure wishful thinking. Arya being a fan favourite and female has played a massive part in the decision to elevate her to NK slayer status.

Oh but it does make sense. She's a Stark after all and the most ruthless by far. Old Nan told her all she now knows is true about the walkers. As many mentioned, the night king was not going to be defeated any other way at that stage.... Unless say the mountain 2.0 showed up.
Bet Bronn is glad he missed that!

no.8 · 30-04-2019 12:31AM

Charlie19 wrote:

Just watched the three episodes back to back and tbh I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight.

. That's ballsy

Mokuba · 30-04-2019 12:31AM

Assetbacked wrote: »

Arya has had the archetypal hero story: good upbringing followed by heartbreak, exile and "death" then the heroic recovery. A clear similarity is the movie of Batman Begins.

As with Batman, I think this is as far as Arya's story goes. Hero and saviour but not the ruler the people deserve.

She massacres a whole house and her storyline in the show is the exact opposite of GRRM's intentions with her in the books. Nothing could be clearer as to how unfit D&D are to write GOT than their complete misunderstanding of the Arya character, and how they have ruined her since they ran out of source material.

leggo · 30-04-2019 12:32AM

For those saying the show ‘used to’ always have big characters die in major battles, I did a bit of research and here is an extensive list of the named characters that died in the Battle of Blackwater:

Ser Mandon
Davos’ son

And that’s it. Every other main character survived. Shall we go on?

Castle Black

Pyp
Grenn
Ygritte
The Thenn Jon killed

Hardhome

Karsi (who was introduced that episode)
Another Thenn
A White Walker

Battle of the Bastards

Rickon
Wun Wun
Ramsey

Winterfell

Theon
Lyanna
Beric
Jorah
Edd
The Night King
The White Walkers, Viserion & entire Army of the Dead
The Dothrakis

Yeah, this show has really lost its balls huh? :pac:

Charlie19 · 30-04-2019 12:35AM

GSPfan wrote: »

You must have got a few hours kip during the first two episodes yeah? Thats why?

It was torture trying to avoid spoilers but well worth it to binge three episodes together, hopefully I can do the same with the next three.

threeball · 30-04-2019 12:36AM

GSPfan wrote: »

She’s said a lot of things. She’s been wrong throughout the whole show so I don’t think Arya being in that group meant she was destined to kill the NK.

I’ve no real issue with it but it doesn’t make sense and that’s fine but people trying to create sense is pure wishful thinking. Arya being a fan favourite and female has played a massive part in the decision to elevate her to NK slayer status.

She has been wrong all along because her predictions/interpretations were wrong. She was choosing the wrong people but the Lord of light seems to have protected Arya so she could fulfill her destiny.

sabat · 30-04-2019 12:36AM

I'm just rewatching the 1080p rip and I can see everything perfectly, even with my TV on 'true cinema' which is darker than most people are used to. People must either be watching really low quality versions or have their tvs wrongly calibrated.

How Soon Is Now · 30-04-2019 12:37AM

Another thing everytime a a White Walker or The Night King himself has touched someone there has been obvious affects on them right away!

We have seen it numerous times yet some how Arya gets grabbed by The Night King himself yet she's able to drop a dagger catch the thing in mid air and stab him in his "weak spot".

How Soon Is Now · 30-04-2019 12:38AM

sabat wrote: »

I'm just rewatching the 1080p rip and I can see everything perfectly, even with my TV on 'true cinema' which is darker than most people are used to. People must either be watching really low quality versions or have their tvs wrongly calibrated.

Ya I watched 1080p 5 gig rip myself very little issues.
It's clearly dark but once the room is dark it's grand!

Assetbacked · 30-04-2019 12:39AM

If only Danys could have died. Infuriatingly implausible manner for her to stay alive once her dragon was taken from her. She offers absolutely nothing to the whole thing and it really seems like people only like her because of how she looks.

Mokuba · 30-04-2019 12:39AM

sabat wrote: »

I'm just rewatching the 1080p rip and I can see everything perfectly, even with my TV on 'true cinema' which is darker than most people are used to. People must either be watching really low quality versions or have their tvs wrongly calibrated.

Nobody cares if you saw it clearly or not. A huge amount didn't.

Assetbacked · 30-04-2019 12:39AM

Mokuba wrote: »

She massacres a whole house and her storyline in the show is the exact opposite of GRRM's intentions with her in the books. Nothing could be clearer as to how unfit D&D are to write GOT than their complete misunderstanding of the Arya character, and how they have ruined her since they ran out of source material.

"source material", what source material?

RickBlaine · 30-04-2019 12:40AM

GSPfan wrote: »

The more I think of it if they didn’t want Jon killing the Night King they should of had Sam do it somehow as he has been involved in the WW arc this whole time. Having Jon being beaten and about to die only for Sam to kill him would of made sense. The ultimate coward who was ridiculed at the Nights Watch ending the threat of the Night King would of given Sam his conclusion. The Night King was very cocky so that could of played into the reason why he turned his back on Sam.

Arya killing him is a little controversial so I can only imagine the ****storm if Sam killed him.

It would almost be as bad if it was Hotpie that killed him.

Sparko · 30-04-2019 12:41AM

Asus X540L wrote: »

Did they get rid of poor ghost?
Last I saw he was galloping into battle with the dothraki

I hope they fashioned some dragonglass claws for him, or maybe some dentures.

sabat · 30-04-2019 12:43AM

Mokuba wrote: »

Nobody cares if you saw it clearly or not. A huge amount didn't.

I was saying it so people who had issues might try to watch it in better quality and enjoy it more. I watched it (paid for) on Sky first...

"Non book readers" - Season 8 Episode 3 "The Long Night" - Spoilers post 2 forwa

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