Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Peter Casey to contest the European elections

1262729313274

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    We need him to run for The dail. Not Europe. The guy is totally clueless. It goes to show what one guy speaking the truth can do, so many other weaknesses but speaking the truth and he wins a sizeable percentage of the vote !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    is_that_so wrote: »
    And all of this relates to candidacy for the EU Parliament how?

    The only thing anyone can be absolutely sure of is that all Louise o reilly voters are deaf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Faugheen wrote: »
    ...but he got walloped.

    You can make up any excuse you want, but Michael D was under immense pressure to reveal his expenses and was challenged about it practically every time he was on air.

    Don't give me the bull**** about how he had the media behind him. The media scrutinised him more than they did McAleese or Robinson.

    Casey lost by a country mile. 77% of the country voted against him.

    Michael D got a nice massage on his size 3 feet by the media from start to finish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Michael D got a nice massage on his size 3 feet by the media from start to finish

    Well, what they could say about the other candidates would barely fill a crossword puzzle so it was wall to wall Michael D!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Not EU issues. Once again he's campaigning for the wrong job!

    He isn't being roasted by the left for bringing up domestic matters within the remit of an EU campaign, he's being roasted for raising the issue full stop, were he running in a general election in meath East where a large DP centre is located, you would see the same media and left wing response

    DP is holy to the left


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    He isn't being roasted by the left for bringing up domestic matters within the remit of an EU campaign, he's being roasted for raising the issue full stop, were he running in a general election in meath East where a large DP centre is located, you would see the same media and left wing response

    DP is holy to the left
    He deserves a roasting for the flaky policies, none of which have any substance, nor any relationship to what he's running for and vary at a moment's notice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,722 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Faugheen wrote: »
    I’m saying that people will vote for Casey because he speaks their racist views..

    This mantra is not serving you well at all. It is entirely possible for people to vote for Casey because they see a germ of truth in his allegations. Doesn't mean they agree with him entirely. And doesn't imply they are racist at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    We need him to run for The dail. Not Europe. The guy is totally clueless. It goes to show what one guy speaking the truth can do, so many other weaknesses but speaking the truth and he wins a sizeable percentage of the vote !

    I think the support for Casey highlights the lack of truth and sincerity that exists in Irish politics and by extension media. He is a terrible candidate, lacks coherence, has a poor media presence and has no real policy platform. With this in mind he is still doing well and polled extremely well in the Pres Election, it's extraordinary.

    I thought the chameleon like FF would move into the Casey space after the election, but seems they haven't, probably out of fear of losing the media. That ground is there for the taking in Midlands north west and there's enough of it for more than a few Dail seats.

    A charismatic operator with a more fleshed out programme building on the issues that Casey stumbled into could do really well in this area. I won't be the only one watching to see how well he polls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,862 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    is_that_so wrote:
    He deserves a roasting for the flaky policies, none of which have any substance and vary at a moment's notice.
    You see he has opened up a new way to get media coverage and votes. You'll see younger people who'll do what he is doing only much better in the next general election.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    eagle eye wrote: »
    You see he has opened up a new way to get media coverage and votes. You'll see younger people who'll do what he is doing only much better in the next general election.
    He hasn't actually done anything. I don't think he'll be elected but if that's what you mean about the next GE it happens all the time.


  • Advertisement
  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    This mantra is not serving you well at all. It is entirely possible for people to vote for Casey because they see a germ of truth in his allegations. Doesn't mean they agree with him entirely. And doesn't imply they are racist at all.

    But he has no policy or means in which to address them.

    Why are you voting for someone who just says things? If he had an actual policy which could reasonably address these issues then I’d reconsider what I’m saying about people who vote for him. Until then, while they’re happy for him to shout about immigrants and doing nothing about it then I’ll continue to group people in the way that I am.

    You really, really are not getting this whatsoever. I’ve said the above dozens of times in this thread and all I get back are people saying ‘but but he’s speaks the truth.’

    He has no policies to address ‘the truth’, so why are you bothering? He’s no different to any of the rest of the political class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I think the support for Casey highlights the lack of truth and sincerity that exists in Irish politics and by extension media. He is a terrible candidate, lacks coherence, has a poor media presence and has no real policy platform. With this in mind he is still doing well and polled extremely well in the Pres Election, it's extraordinary.

    I thought the chameleon like FF would move into the Casey space after the election, but seems they haven't, probably out of fear of losing the media. That ground is there for the taking in Midlands north west and there's enough of it for more than a few Dail seats.

    A charismatic operator with a more fleshed out programme building on the issues that Casey stumbled into could do really well in this area. I won't be the only one watching to see how well he polls.
    No it's not there for the taking, at least not in this. The three incumbents should be returned ad FF with two candidates would be favoured for seat number 4. I really don't get why posters imagine the Presidential vote is future evidence of any voting intentions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,422 ✭✭✭trashcan


    Hahahaha the only alternative is to give them houses.

    Give me a break. We can do like Australia and send them to an island. That worked for Oz. Sharp drop in the number of "asylum seekers" once they realised they were not getting a cushy life in a b&b

    Yeah, you realise that would still be direct provision, and probably cost as much if not more. ? (Any particular island in mind by the way ?) Back in the real world, whether you like it or not there, are certain minimum standards that we are obliged to maintain in respect of housing asylum seekers. Direct Provision seems to be either a cushy number for freeloaders, or an inhumane prison system, according to your worldview. In reality it's an imperfect answer to fulfill our international obligations, while not making the system her overly attractive. It's clearly not ideal that people spend years in the system, but as pointed out elsewhere that is really down to appeals and court cases, which can take years. Initial asylum claims are decided on relatively quickly. If you see someone complaining they are in the system for 7/8 years you can be sure they are not on their first trip around the block. Many of them would actually have deportation orders which they are challenging in Court. That's the real elephant in the room here. The High Court needs serious resources allocated to it to deal with cases. I'd favour a dedicated Immigration court system myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    is_that_so wrote: »
    No it's not there for the taking, at least not in this. The three incumbents should be returned ad FF with two candidates would be favoured for seat number 4. I really don't get why posters imagine the Presidential vote is future evidence of any voting intentions.

    Perhaps not in this election as the constituency is a bit too diverse. He may well be running this time to maintain profile for the upcoming GE. If Casey ran in Longford Westmeath for example I think he could not just win a seat but top the poll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Plumb said without foundation that people will vote for Maria Walsh because she’s gay and won the ROT. They have no proof of that?

    Well there is no way in hell she would be on the ballot paper if it wasn't for the profile she got as winner of ROT and indeed fact she was first openly gay winner.

    And yes she will get votes because she is
    a) FG
    b) a woman
    c) from Mayo
    d) Gay
    e) nice to some people that have met her
    Faugheen wrote: »
    I’m saying that people will vote for Casey because he speaks their racist views.

    I’ve asked that poster numerous times to just simply say: ‘I’m not voting for Casey because of his racist views’ and they didn’t.

    Ah yes everyone that disagrees with you is a racist.
    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    The winner had the entire political and media class behind him, casey was demonised by all from both for a week, his result was phenomenal

    Casey doing so well should have been a wake up call to politicians.

    The laugh is they, and the modern liberally minded mostly supposed left, still have learned nothing from what is happening all over the world.
    Ordinary people are getting tired of stuff being shoved down their throats by media, celebrities, academics and politicians.

    Of course these groups then label the people as ignorant, racist, bigotted right wingers.

    They still haven't copped on that ordinary people are worried about globalisation, about mass immigration that affects their and their childrens future access to education, healthcare, housing, and they are worried about things like crime, terrorism, non integrating ghettos in their towns and cities.

    Now the last two don't really apply to Ireland, but they are part of the mix in lots of European states at this stage.

    Of course this is all played as racism and stupidity.
    But is it stupid to worry about crime being perpetrated by a tiny minority who often are allowed operate outside of the laws of the land, but to add insult to injury are then awarded special status that will used to copperfasten their outsider status ?

    Is it stupid to worry that large number of uneducated unskilled migrants will have detrimental effects on access to housing, education, healthcare?

    Basically the politicians, the media, academics, NGOs, the connected ones and the right on well meaning crowd are telling the people there is nothing to worry about. Basically it is a suck it up.
    And you are a racist for evening voicing your concerns.

    And the same ones then wonder why if the hopeless, the bumblers, the right wingers who listen, or the shysters who pretend to listen, are getting the votes.

    Yes there are the bigots, the racists, the religious conservatives, the real right wingers, but according to some everyone not subscribing to their exact views are now racists and bigots.

    On a world stage one example of how fooked the world has become is when a LGB campaigner and pioneer such as Martina Navratilova is lambasted for not being an excusor of the modern LGBT lunacy in womens/transexual sport.
    Idbatterim wrote: »
    We need him to run for The dail. Not Europe. The guy is totally clueless. It goes to show what one guy speaking the truth can do, so many other weaknesses but speaking the truth and he wins a sizeable percentage of the vote !

    That is because so few now speak anything resembling the truth.
    It is a rarity and refreshing.
    The comment by the panel on the night of the debate about traveller halting sites spoke volumes as to who was honest and not a complete disingenous liar.
    The

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Could you imagine what one competent honest party could do here? Achieve 15-20% of the vote and you would have huge influence !


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Could you imagine what one competent honest party could do here? Achieve 15-20% of the vote and you would have huge influence !

    People say this all the time, but any party who has tried to be 'honest' has failed to do anything. See Renua, Identity Ireland etc.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    jmayo wrote: »
    Well there is no way in hell she would be on the ballot paper if it wasn't for the profile she got as winner of ROT and indeed fact she was first openly gay winner.

    And yes she will get votes because she is
    a) FG
    b) a woman
    c) from Mayo
    d) Gay
    e) nice to some people that have met her

    And the racists will vote for Casey, which was my point. Thank you for agreeing with me.
    jmayo wrote: »
    Ah yes everyone that disagrees with you is a racist

    Not at all. They could vote for a number of candidates that I would disagree with. That doesn't make those people racists.

    If they're voting for Casey then they are, in my opinion, which I have said multiple times in this thread.

    People praise Casey for 'sticking to his guns and not apologising' whereas I'm being ridiculed for sticking to mine and being told I need to apologise.

    It's funny how it works out when people disagree with your views, isn't it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Nobelium


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Could you imagine what one competent honest party could do here? Achieve 15-20% of the vote and you would have huge influence !

    It certainly takes some imagination. "competent honest party" is an oxymoron if ever there was one. Honest and competent people don't go into politics.
    Try to figure out the lease worst candidate in your opinion and go for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Faugheen wrote: »
    And the racists will vote for Casey, which was my point. Thank you for agreeing with me.



    Not at all. They could vote for a number of candidates that I would disagree with. That doesn't make those people racists.

    If they're voting for Casey then they are, in my opinion, which I have said multiple times in this thread.

    People praise Casey for 'sticking to his guns and not apologising' whereas I'm being ridiculed for sticking to mine and being told I need to apologise.

    It's funny how it works out when people disagree with your views, isn't it?

    Not all beers are largers. Just because there will be some racists voting for Casey doesn't make all Casey voters racist.
    You've taken the groundless view that they are and that's why you're being told you need to apologise.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Renua laughably lost a lot of votes due to their pro life stance. Funny how so many of the young electorate will take a stand on a massively grey area and yet be prepared to emigrate in droves like nurses and doctors. Or live at home in their mid thirties, due to the housing crisis. Hundreds of thousands varadkar has brainwashed there. You got e1.50 extra a week as a workers last year in USc cut, yet I bet they believe believe varadkar rewards the early risers. They’ll be rising in the middle of the night in the not too distant future, to work two jobs so they can be lifelong serfs to varadkar and his Kennedy Wilson mates.

    Too many of the parties playing it too safe. All fishing in the same pond. Might make sense if you are the establishment, but if you have no seats and nothing to lose , better off just representing those who feel they have no voice and actually speaking up for them ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,063 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Peter up to his usual tricks today I see

    Gift grub last week summed him up perfectly


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Renua laughably lost a lot of votes due to their pro life stance. Funny how so many of the young electorate will take a stand on a massively grey area and yet be prepared to emigrate in droves like nurses and doctors. Or live at home in their mid thirties, due to the housing crisis. Hundreds of thousands varadkar has brainwashed there. You got e1.50 extra a week as a workers last year in USc cut, yet I bet they believe believe varadkar rewards the early risers. They’ll be rising in the middle of the night in the not too distant future, to work two jobs so they can be lifelong serfs to varadkar and his Kennedy Wilson mates.

    I'd love a pro life /anti abortion political party hopefully Aontu can become that party


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Faugheen wrote: »
    People say this all the time, but any party who has tried to be 'honest' has failed to do anything. See Renua, Identity Ireland etc.

    The reason new parties find it hard to get going is that one of the larger established parties with the machine behind them will usually shift just enough to steal the ground from under them.

    Renua failed because it was essentially a single issue party that found itself on the wrong side of the debate.

    That said, if renua moves into the Casey space it might revive itself though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Nobelium


    Faugheen wrote: »
    And the racists will vote for Casey

    That's a bit like trying to claim "the homosexuals" will vote for Leo Varadkar . . . it aint necessarily so.

    You throw the word racist around a lot, can you tell us what you seem to think it means as opposed to the actual dictionary and therefore true meaning in English ?


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I'd love a pro life /anti abortion political party hopefully Aontu can become that party

    Nice to know you want women to keep getting the plane and can't accept the overwhelming result of the referendum.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Nice to know you want women to keep getting the plane and can't accept the overwhelming result of the referendum.

    Of course I accept the referendum results. thats democracy doesn't mean I can't hope another referendum couldn't overturn it.


  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Got my first pamphlet through the door from Carthy. Are all of the items below (exactly as written by him), issues that an MEP deals with?

    Matt is fighting for -
    Jobs, infrastructure and services for rural Ireland.
    A radically reformed EU that works for the people.
    Supports for families in mortgage distress.
    Measures for banks and corporations to pay their share of taxes.
    A fair deal for Irish family farmers.
    A United ireland.

    and against -
    Brexit and any hardening of the border in Ireland.
    The further transfer of powers to Brussels.
    More stealth taxes on Irish families.
    Cuts to local services.
    Dangerous EU trade deals.
    The creation of an EU army.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Got my first pamphlet through the door from Carthy. Are all of the items below (exactly as written by him), issues that an MEP deals with?


    Seems even as a sitting MEP he is unaware of the role. Yet he's a professional according to some here. As an aside Matt is going to run for election in the next GE so we will get a nominee if his without the right to vote for them or to know their position on policy.


  • Advertisement
  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seems even as a sitting MEP he is unaware of the role. Yet he's a professional according to some here. As an aside Matt is going to run for election in the next GE so we will get a nominee if his without the right to vote for them or to know their position on policy.

    Sounds like a scam


This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement