Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

Seth Brundle · 24-04-2019 10:51PM

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

From memory now the reg was XXXXXXX and a reg check matches the black Toyota Avensis which did the damage but checking the TransportForIreland website they don't have any taxi registered under that number. I never looked at the taxi plate to run a check on that number.

It checks out (under vehicle licenses tab)...
https://www.transportforireland.ie/taxi/check-if-a-taxi-driver-is-properly-licensed/

rushfan · 25-04-2019 09:20AM

Dr_Colossus wrote:

Thanks, bizarre, it's working now alright but wasn't giving me a result last night. Either way the driver didn't look much like a XXXXXXXX, he was a small 5' 6" black man of about 40 with a shaved head with round black rimmed glasses. Isn't there a means of seeing a picture of the license holder XXXXXX also, remember seeing a screenshot on this tread previously but nothing on that TFI website. Can taxi drivers rent out their car and license plate to other drivers so that the car is working 24hrs a day?

Try the Driver Check app.

hesker · 25-04-2019 01:08PM

Is it right to be posting people's IDs like that. Doesn't sit well with me.

magicbastarder · 25-04-2019 01:16PM

i've deleted/edited several posts - as it seems there is a bit of uncertainty over the identity of the driver, please no posting of driver details or photos. if you think it's legally actionable, go to the gardai with the info.

Utter Consternation · 25-04-2019 01:35PM

hesker wrote: »

Is it right to be posting people's IDs like that. Doesn't sit well with me.

Well they drive around with their number on the side of the car that is basically their ID, so i don't see a problem with it.

tuxy · 25-04-2019 01:37PM

Utter Consternation wrote: »

Well they drive around with their number on the side of the car that is basically their ID, so i don't see a problem with it.

What about combining that ID with the accusation of wrong doing but lacking evidence?

magicbastarder · 25-04-2019 01:39PM

they've been accused on a public forum of an offence based on an eyewitness report from someone who (self-confessedly) was not sure they had the reg plate right. that's certainly no basis to name and shame.

ganmo · 25-04-2019 02:25PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

they've been accused on a public forum of an offence based on an eyewitness report from someone who (self-confessedly) was not sure they had the reg plate right. that's certainly no basis to name and shame.

That's the key bit in this situation

hesker · 25-04-2019 02:30PM

ganmo wrote: »

That's the key bit in this situation

I think it’s more than that. Surely everyone should be entitled to argue their case in front of a judge even if they have admitted guilt at the time.

Don’t like the idea of posting photos of people prior to a conviction. And even then it’s murky.

Surely boards have a policy on this

magicbastarder · 25-04-2019 02:40PM

ganmo wrote: »

That's the key bit in this situation

it's not just that; even if the poster had claimed for definite that was the reg, there's no evidence other than his or her word.
and i suspect the policy of boards is 'don't for god's sake drag us into a slander or libel case'.

Utter Consternation · 25-04-2019 02:42PM

hesker wrote: »

I think it’s more than that. Surely everyone should be entitled to argue their case in front of a judge even if they have admitted guilt at the time.

Don’t like the idea of posting photos of people prior to a conviction. And even then it’s murky.

Surely boards have a policy on this

True enough, murky to an extent. What it does offer though, is a slight bit of protection to vulnerable road users who have to share the road with these 'professional drivers.'

I'm not calling for a lynching of people prior to due course obviously.

CramCycle · 25-04-2019 02:44PM

hesker wrote: »

Surely boards have a policy on this

MOD VOICE: Boards do have a policy on this and the moderators attempt to remove such posts as soon as they come up. We are volunteers though and do rely heavily on posters simply not doing it.

hesker · 25-04-2019 03:21PM

CramCycle wrote: »

MOD VOICE: Boards do have a policy on this and the moderators attempt to remove such posts as soon as they come up. We are volunteers though and do rely heavily on posters simply not doing it.

Wasn’t having a dig at mods in case it came across that way.

Had a quick look at the guidelines and charter there now and didn’t see anything on this. Could it be considered for inclusion

buffalo · 26-04-2019 07:57AM

Had my first 'proper' near miss in a while, mostly lately it's been close passes. Approaching a two lane roundabout, going straight through, no motor traffic coming with me.

There's a few cars waiting at the 9 o'clock entrance - driver in the nearest lane is already on the roundabout, with half the car over the white line. Car behind it is poking a bit further out. I can't see the driver, but I can see the bumper edging forward, and my spidey sense is tingling.

As I come through the roundabout, the second driver indeed pulls out and makes an immediate left turn into the same exit I'm heading for, right into the area of road where I wanted to be. I'm already braking and moving to my right so I end up just alongside the car instead, and I give a shout to let the driver know what happened.

As they pull off I can see the driver's head jerking around checking mirrors, and then the hazards flick on and they slow down. As I pass they say "sorry, I didn't see you".

I shrug my shoulders. Is there a response that would change anything?

Utter Consternation · 26-04-2019 09:24AM

Driving along here this morning and i was in the right lane and parallel with someone in a Fiesta who tried to overtake/lefthook a cyclist as she was turning into the left. I blew her out of it.

It nearly caused her to drop her makeup brush as she was driving along. She nearly went into the side of me.

Apologies to the dude on the bike, he might have thought i was beeping at him. Don't think he saw the move she was trying to pull.

amcalester · 26-04-2019 09:43AM

buffalo wrote: »

Had my first 'proper' near miss in a while, mostly lately it's been close passes. Approaching a two lane roundabout, going straight through, no motor traffic coming with me.

There's a few cars waiting at the 9 o'clock entrance - driver in the nearest lane is already on the roundabout, with half the car over the white line. Car behind it is poking a bit further out. I can't see the driver, but I can see the bumper edging forward, and my spidey sense is tingling.

As I come through the roundabout, the second driver indeed pulls out and makes an immediate left turn into the same exit I'm heading for, right into the area of road where I wanted to be. I'm already braking and moving to my right so I end up just alongside the car instead, and I give a shout to let the driver know what happened.

As they pull off I can see the driver's head jerking around checking mirrors, and then the hazards flick on and they slow down. As I pass they say "sorry, I didn't see you".

I shrug my shoulders. Is there a response that would change anything?

I know it frustrating, but I often think that if someone acknowledges their mistake then they're probably the type of person who will learn from it and as a result are less likely to do it again.

Pinch Flat · 26-04-2019 09:51AM

Late red light breaker turning left off Butt Bridge at the Custom House this morning. Didn't seem to bother him too much that he nearly hit me. Same guy continued through the next red at the IFSC junction, so at least he's consistent.

AndrewJRenko · 26-04-2019 09:34PM

hesker wrote: »

I think it’s more than that. Surely everyone should be entitled to argue their case in front of a judge even if they have admitted guilt at the time.

Don’t like the idea of posting photos of people prior to a conviction. And even then it’s murky.

Why not? Posting a photo or video doesn't impact your ability to argue your case in front of a judge. These are District Court offences, so they're not going to have a jury involved.

Greentree_uk · 27-04-2019 09:43AM

Nice lack of observation from this Dublin Bus driver. I'm doing 30Kph

https://youtu.be/2u6cAziymXM

amcalester · 27-04-2019 10:41AM

He knew what he was doing.

Greentree_uk · 27-04-2019 10:46AM

He was a She.

amcalester · 27-04-2019 10:55AM

Greentree_uk wrote: »

He was a She.

Ah, well, maybe she didn’t

hesker · 27-04-2019 11:20AM

Greentree_uk wrote: »

Nice lack of observation from this Dublin Bus driver. I'm doing 30Kph

https://youtu.be/2u6cAziymXM

Prick of a thing to do. If I had that done to me I think I’d be taking centre lane in future

hesker · 27-04-2019 11:29AM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Why not? Posting a photo or video doesn't impact your ability to argue your case in front of a judge. These are District Court offences, so they're not going to have a jury involved.

Posting someone’s photo and ID makes them a potential target on a public platform. That doesn’t feel right to me. Especially for a guy who apologised on the spot at length. Follow due process by all means, guards, courts whatever, as is your right.

Anyway I’ve asked the mods to consider this scenario in general in line with boards guidelines so let’s see where it goes

magicbastarder · 27-04-2019 11:55AM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Why not? Posting a photo or video doesn't impact your ability to argue your case in front of a judge. These are District Court offences, so they're not going to have a jury involved.

c'mon, you're not that dumb. accusing and identifying someone of something they shouldn't have done in a public forum, based on nothing but hearsay, is what keeps libel lawyers in expensive shirts.

lest this not be clear - we will remove any attempt to identify individuals who may or may not have been involved in 'interactions' on the road.
and lest this part not be clear either - a video of a taxi with reg number 19D12345 pulling a dick move is not grounds for posting details of driver John. C. Fancypants, as the video itself is not proof that Mr. Fancypants was driving the car, even if it's registered to him. no more than i am guilty of a road traffic offence if i lend my car to my father and he does something stupid in it.

Greentree_uk · 27-04-2019 01:06PM

hesker wrote: »

Prick of a thing to do. If I had that done to me I think I’d be taking centre lane in future

Not sure centre lane of a two lane road is right... but anyway I've submitted a complaint into Dublin Bus for all it will do.

AndrewJRenko · 27-04-2019 03:09PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

c'mon, you're not that dumb. accusing and identifying someone of something they shouldn't have done in a public forum, based on nothing but hearsay, is what keeps libel lawyers in expensive shirts.

lest this not be clear - we will remove any attempt to identify individuals who may or may not have been involved in 'interactions' on the road.
and lest this part not be clear either - a video of a taxi with reg number 19D12345 pulling a dick move is not grounds for posting details of driver John. C. Fancypants, as the video itself is not proof that Mr. Fancypants was driving the car, even if it's registered to him. no more than i am guilty of a road traffic offence if i lend my car to my father and he does something stupid in it.

Just to be clear - I'm not arguing with a moderator ruling. I will comply with whatever policy Boards.ie sets out.

My point is around a factual situation - a video of a driver breaking a red light or a photo of a car parked on the path.

In this scenario, I don't see any difficulties in boards.ie hosting a photo or image. Statements about a named individual may be problematic, but the photo or video on it's own is not a problem IMHO.

Seth Brundle · 27-04-2019 03:15PM

I think it's more the attempt at identifying the taxi driver using the reg or taxi number.

site_owner · 27-04-2019 03:47PM

Greentree_uk wrote: »

Nice lack of observation from this Dublin Bus driver. I'm doing 30Kph

https://youtu.be/2u6cAziymXM

Claim your USB stick for that one

magicbastarder · 27-04-2019 05:22PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

My point is around a factual situation - a video of a driver breaking a red light or a photo of a car parked on the path.

Yep, I don't have a problem with this. It was the posting of identifying photos I was referring to - earlier in the thread someone posted a photo of a driver purportedly involved in an incident - not a photo taken at the scene.

I'd regard a video as actual evidence

Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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