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Dead bodies left on trolleys in corridors.

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    #2
    Your Face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,277 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I read that earlier. It was truly shocking.
    Our health services - I despair.


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    kona
    Registered Users Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Wonder what that smug prick varadkar has to say about this? Along with the other weasel harris? While continuing to burn a few billion on another dodgey hospital elsewhere.


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    Oops!
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    That's 3rd world stuff...... Disgraceful.


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    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Already Ireland spends in the top 10 per capita on healthcare in the world. More money won't fix mismanagement.


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    maccored
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    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »
    Already Ireland spends in the top 10 per capita on healthcare in the world. More money won't fix mismanagement.

    then employ better management


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    Samuel Vimes
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    kona wrote: »
    Wonder what that smug prick varadkar has to say about this? Along with the other weasel harris? While continuing to burn a few billion on another dodgey hospital elsewhere.

    Not as smug as the hurler in the ditch , when are going to put yourself forward for election?


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    is_that_so
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    kona wrote: »
    Wonder what that smug prick varadkar has to say about this? Along with the other weasel harris? While continuing to burn a few billion on another dodgey hospital elsewhere.

    It actually looks like a local SNAFU with the HSE at fault.


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    Boxcar_Willie
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    Sickening


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    Pissartist
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    maccored wrote: »
    then employ better management

    The problem is there's too much management, and most are unable to do their jobs, or are job share who couldn't really care.


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    is_that_so
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    Pissartist wrote: »
    The problem is there's too much management, and most are unable to do their jobs, or are job share who couldn't really care.
    HSE has too many and hospitals have far too many bad ones.


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    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    kona wrote: »
    Wonder what that smug prick varadkar has to say about this? Along with the other weasel harris? While continuing to burn a few billion on another dodgey hospital elsewhere.

    You can be pretty sure that neither knew what was going on, they don’t inspect these hospitals personally.

    It’s 100% down to hospital management and the HSE.


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    kona
    Registered Users Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Samuel Vimes wrote: »
    Not as smug as the hurler in the ditch , when are going to put yourself forward for election?

    Too busy working to pay for this mess unfortunatley. Might do it when i retire for a pension.


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    kona
    Registered Users Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    You can be pretty sure that neither knew what was going on, they don’t inspect these hospitals personally.

    It’s 100% down to hospital management and the HSE.

    They are responsible.


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    Tabnabs
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    The HSE lurches from one crisis to another and we tolerate it and blame it on some person who is a temporary figurehead based solely on the popularity contest of a general election.

    How many malpractices do we have to put up with? How much tax payer money is shovelled into the bottomless pit of the Irish public health system? How many new record long waiting lists will we endure? How many more health scandals will come to light?

    Our bureaucracy, from the top levels to the very bottom of the system, has failed us entirely in producing a safe, efficient, professional and caring health service. And nothing will change, no lasting improvements will result in a health system we can be proud of, or even fully place our trust in.


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    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    kona wrote: »
    They are responsible.
    Getting your slogans ready for when you run for office?:D


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    Yurt2
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    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    You can be pretty sure that neither knew what was going on, they don’t inspect these hospitals personally.

    It’s 100% down to hospital management and the HSE.


    Perhaps this is a bit Kim Jong Un of me to suggest, but maybe Health Ministers should be visiting HSE facilities unannounced periodically and catching management on the hop.


    This isn't an endorsement of Putin, but his regular filleting of hapless bureaucrats around provincial Russia make for entertaining viewing:




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    kona
    Registered Users Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Getting your slogans ready for when you run for office?:D

    Nah my slogans would be more colourful to be fair.


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    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Perhaps this is a bit Kim Jong Un of me to suggest, but perhaps Health Ministers should be visiting HSE facilities unannounced periodically and catching management on the hop.


    This isn't an endorsement of Putin, but his regular filleting of hapless bureaucrats around provincial Russia make for entertaining viewing:



    That's what HIQA do and they are far scarier!


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    kona
    Registered Users Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Perhaps this is a bit Kim Jong Un of me to suggest, but perhaps Health Ministers should be visiting HSE facilities unannounced periodically and catching management on the hop.


    This isn't an endorsement of Putin, but his regular filleting of hapless bureaucrats around provincial Russia make for entertaining viewing:



    Ha could you imagine varadkar doing that, youd nearly laugh at him.


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    ChikiChiki
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    Our health system and mental health services are an abomination and not fit for purpose.

    Time for change and to get rid of civil war parties.


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    whisky_galore
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    Oops! wrote: »
    That's 3rd world stuff...... Disgraceful.

    You probably wouldn't see it in Cuba. But here, a supposedly modern rich country... it comes as hardly a surprise.


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    Guy:Incognito
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    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    .

    Time for change and to get rid of civil war parties.

    Which party is running on the "sack loads of civil servants " ticket?


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    suicide_circus
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    irish public: hey government, fix the health service

    irish gov: ok but we'll have to take on the unions and cut a load of managers and admins

    irish public: the nurses are on strike - hey government, give them what they want!

    repeat.


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    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    maccored wrote: »
    then employ better management

    Or sack the wasters and implement new technologies. Also we need to go towards a preventative health system. Annual health screening for the whole population should be mandatory.


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    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    kona wrote: »
    They are responsible.

    I do wonder what it's like to operate with such a small-minded and simplistic view of the world.


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    #27
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Our health system and mental health services are an abomination and not fit for purpose.

    Time for change and to get rid of civil war parties.

    I don't think you can blame the civil war for all the vested interests in the health service.


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    theguzman
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    More payrises for useless managers in the HSE no doubt is the only consequence they will face.

    Privatise it, break the unions, this is all caused by the Unions and the Public sector who have this country absolutely crippled.


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    #29
    kona
    Registered Users Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    irish public: hey government, fix the health service

    irish gov: ok but we'll have to take on the unions and cut a load of managers and admins

    irish public: the nurses are on strike - hey government, give them what they want!

    repeat.

    Id say if it was management on strike nobody would give a ****. Place would probably run just the same.


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    #30
    Force Carrier
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    Too many women in offices gossiping


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    Hoboo
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    maccored wrote: »
    then employ better management

    Get rid of what's there first, nepotism is rife from the very top down.


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