Dodgy characters of the Crypto boom

stockshares · 16-04-2019 3:02pm #1

Given that the Bitcoin project is the flag bearer for Cryptocurrencies/Blockchain how can it gain acceptance when the Promoters of it are or have been people of dubious character at best and outright criminals at worst.

The Inventor of it is a phantom.

The project has had numerous forks/spin offs led by nutjobs.

How many more projects have people at the helm who are criminals in all but name and are best avoided?

JohnnyFlash · 16-04-2019 3:34pm

Justin Sun from Tron.

Craig Wright from Bitcoin Satoshi Vision.

The group behind Tether and Bitfinex.

Be careful out there, kids. Sharks in the water.

Kickstart1.3 · 16-04-2019 4:15pm

You can add Rodger Ver to that list also. CEO of Bitcoin.com, serious nut job, spent time in prison for Fraud. Now spends all his time shilling Bitcoin Cash, which he claimed was the original Bitcoin only to go ahead and have the code changed to suit private companies that run code like Wormhole

stockshares · 16-04-2019 4:40pm

How many of the original Bitcoin team are left. How sound can they be considering that at one time they thought the Bch and Bsv guys were sound.

grindle · 16-04-2019 8:15pm

stockshares wrote: »

The Inventor of it is a phantom.

This is undoubtedly a good thing - why would he want to be known? If Satoshi was going to commit one act of kindness, it would be nice if they'd burn their coins.

stockshares wrote: »

How many more projects have people at the helm who are criminals in all but name and are best avoided?

Cursory guesstimate - almost all of them?

stockshares wrote: »

How many of the original Bitcoin team are left. How sound can they be considering that at one time they thought the Bch and Bsv guys were sound.

The Bitcoin team wasn't really a team until Blockstream seized the reigns, it was an amorphous glob of engineers. Now it's an amorphous glob with the Core devs (who imo have a huge conflict of interest re:Blockstream) deciding what gets into the protocol. I don't think any of them ever liked the BCH or BSV crowd. In fact, they were fairly antagonistic towards them for 2-3 years - the blocksize debate resulted in BCH being born. "Shoo, Blockstream can't profit efficiently with big blocks!"
Gavin Andresen got locked out of the BTC Core github by the remaining Core devs (all employed by or had founded Blockstream) when he chose to believe Craig Wright's spiel about being Satoshi. Dumb decision from both sides.
Hal Finney is dead due to ALS.
Jeff Garzik is hopelessly addicted to creating worthless shítcoins and works for BitPay
Martiin Malmi is developing some kind of P2P social network.
Lazloh is most famous for buying two pizzas.

Kickstart1.3 wrote: »

You can add Rodger Ver to that list also. CEO of Bitcoin.com, serious nut job, spent time in prison for Fraud. Now spends all his time shilling Bitcoin Cash, which he claimed was the original Bitcoin only to go ahead and have the code changed to suit private companies that run code like Wormhole

He was imprisoned for selling fireworks - you talk like an /r/bitcoin shill. Look at the unedited version of their sub for once, get a sense of the censorship of honest debate going back years.
In what way is enabling Wormhole (smart contracts on top of Bitcoin for anybody who doesn't know), ergo making the project more useful/have a utility any worse than Blockstream crippling Bitcoin for their own ends, destroying it's utility?

Bitconnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeccccccct
Dan Larimer
Lewis Barber of Sharpe Capital
Calvin Ayre
Anybody in support of "Dothereum"
The Onecoin guys
Oyster Pearl's "Bruno"
Whoever made up Dentacoin. Dentafúckingcoin
Centra Tech

So many more& even more to come, very exciting.

lawred2 · 16-04-2019 8:18pm

Who was the lad that staged a fake ICO? Just took the whole website with the white paper offline on ICO day then tweeted a picture of himself at a departure lounge and followed up later with a tweet from some beach...

grindle · 16-04-2019 8:25pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Who was the lad that staged a fake ICO? Just took the whole website with the white paper offline on ICO day then tweeted a picture of himself at a departure lounge and followed up later with a tweet from some beach...

That was a PR stunt to show how easily it could happen & get their name in the papers. Probably the wrong choice given most think he's on a beach somewhere.
Edit: Savedroid

Prodeum's (revolutionising the fruit and veg industry, oh my word) exit scam was succinct:
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lawred2 · 16-04-2019 8:27pm

grindle wrote: »

That was a PR stunt to show how easily it could happen & get their name in the papers. Probably the wrong choice given most think he's on a beach somewhere.
Edit: Savedroid

Prodeum's (revolutionising the fruit and veg industry, oh my word) exit scam was succinct:

Was that definitely it? Name doesn't ring a bell. Could very well be now.. not saying it's not

JohnnyFlash · 16-04-2019 8:28pm

Dan Larrimer is another scam artist, and looks like something you’d drag up from the bottom of a murky pond.

Charlie Lee as well, selling off all his litecoin in December 2017 for the ‘good of the community’.

grindle · 16-04-2019 8:29pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Was that definitely it? Name doesn't ring a bell. Could very well be now.. not saying it's not

lawred2 · 16-04-2019 8:47pm

grindle wrote: »

Haha that's it alright

Tinder Surprise · 17-04-2019 2:47pm

I stay in the mindset that everyone is out to make a quick buck and potentially screw you over in the process.

Its easier and safer.

This new wave of development and roll out 'trust-less transaction' systems and networks is ironically full of folk not to trust.
Bad actors will be weeded out eventually, but until then it will resemble something like the Wild Wild West.

Thread carefully.

stockshares · 18-04-2019 12:56pm

Tinder Surprise wrote: »

I stay in the mindset that everyone is out to make a quick buck and potentially screw you over in the process.

Its easier and safer.

This new wave of development and roll out 'trust-less transaction' systems and networks is ironically full of folk not to trust.
Bad actors will be weeded out eventually, but until then it will resemble something like the Wild Wild West.

Thread carefully.

These Crypto Pioneers remind me of the characters in Deadwood. It was a show about a frontier town in the Wild West that attracted every kind of prospector

https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/22/18277055/hbo-deadwood-the-movie-trailer-may-31-release-date

stockshares · 23-04-2019 9:38am

Bruno Block of Oyster Pearl(PRL)

https://medium.com/@bill_26126/oyster-update-b813390ce10e

JohnnyFlash · 24-04-2019 7:43pm

Justin Sun appears to announce a partnership with Liverpool FC. Loads of bag holders almost have a heart attack with excitement.

https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1120927231587393536?s=21

Few hours later:

https://decryptmedia.com/6684/tron-liverpool-football-club-fc

grindle · 24-04-2019 8:08pm

That's quite funny, he's some chancer. And the spin the spokesperson's putting on it then... Ah god.

Dear AnyFúckingBody Justin,

If you give us some money to buy the fouling mercenaries players we need to maintain our lead against Man City Liverpool's glorious heritage, we will help to shill your shítcoin utopian ideals,

Yours Liverpudlianly,

Jürgen Norbert Klopp

stockshares · 24-04-2019 9:29pm

grindle wrote: »

That's quite funny, he's some chancer. And the spin the spokesperson's putting on it then... Ah god.

Dear AnyFúckingBody Justin,

If you give us some money to buy the fouling mercenaries players we need to maintain our lead against Man City Liverpool's glorious heritage, we will help to shill your shítcoin utopian ideals,

Yours Liverpudlianly,

Jürgen Norbert Klopp

I dont know whos worse, the Club or Justin. Everyone's after the Gravy

grindle · 25-04-2019 8:50am

Greg Maxwell [BTC Core developer & Blockstream co-founder].

How people can ignore the astroturfing and gaslighting is beyond me, but hey - as long a somebody makes some shekels, amirite?

stockshares · 25-04-2019 9:33am

grindle wrote: »

Greg Maxwell [BTC Core developer & Blockstream co-founder].

How people can ignore the astroturfing and gaslighting is beyond me, but hey - as long a somebody makes some shekels, amirite?

Im new to this but its striking how many Dodgy characters came out of the one project.

When a Governments attempts at regulation are questioned they only have to point to the current and former Bitcoin Project members.

Btw I seen that France has made it easy for Crypto startups to open Bank Accounts
https://www.coindesk.com/banks-cant-snub-crypto-startups-thanks-to-frances-new-blockchain-law

Edit:
Just seen this, DooTron Casino dissapears. Would the Casino be directly connected to the TRON project
https://www.ccn.com/tron-casino-disappearsthousands-of-investors-doomed-with-worthless-tokens

grindle · 25-04-2019 2:07pm

stockshares wrote: »

Im new to this but its striking how many Dodgy characters came out of the one project.

It's predictable considering the benefit they'd gain if they succeed plus it was the essentially the only project of it's kind for years. Any industry with lucrative gains up for grabs is full to the brim with ravenous scum, but it doesn't mean they all are.
Look at the country you live in, every second mongoloid is a landlord looking to fleece their fellow countrymen. That's not specific to our country or to landlords or anything - some dirtbag makes some money fleecing people, somebody else gets jealous and tries to repeat what the initial pleb did. "Any industry with lucrative gains..."
Onwards and upwards (until it crashes).

stockshares · 25-04-2019 2:56pm

grindle wrote: »

It's predictable considering the benefit they'd gain if they succeed plus it was the essentially the only project of it's kind for years. Any industry with lucrative gains up for grabs is full to the brim with ravenous scum, but it doesn't mean they all are.
Look at the country you live in, every second mongoloid is a landlord looking to fleece their fellow countrymen. That's not specific to our country or to landlords or anything - some dirtbag makes some money fleecing people, somebody else gets jealous and tries to repeat what the initial pleb did. "Any industry with lucrative gains..."
Onwards and upwards (until it crashes).

Considering the people involved are so dodgy who checks the code and cryptography of these projects. How do people know that these transactions and blockchain ledgers are actually trustless.

grindle · 25-04-2019 4:47pm

stockshares wrote: »

Considering the people involved are so dodgy who checks the code and cryptography of these projects. How do people know that these transactions and blockchain ledgers are actually trustless.

There are tens upon tens of thousands of devs and cryptographers in the world, blackhats and whitehats alike - if there was a fatal problem with the code you'd know about it because your wallets would be emptied along with everybody else's and the chain/project forked. You can check the code if you want.
That you may not understand it means nothing, your argument relies on the idea that nobody else checks or understands it. Billions-worth of a reward apparently not enticing enough reason to learn.

Don't mistake or conflate nefarious ideologies for or with nefarious code - you should be worried about the ideologies of people who've hijacked Bitcoin rather than their coding nous. They have every reason to want Bitcoin to be secure, their company will be making money providing Layer 2 solutions. Which is why they need the base layer to be artificially crippled.

stockshares · 27-04-2019 11:13pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Justin Sun appears to announce a partnership with Liverpool FC. Loads of bag holders almost have a heart attack with excitement.

https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1120927231587393536?s=21

Few hours later:

https://decryptmedia.com/6684/tron-liverpool-football-club-fc

Liverpool at it again
https://t.me/iv?url=https://u.today/binances-cz-gets-partnership-invitation-from-liverpool-fc-true-or-fake&rhash=a523a59c412fdc

grindle · 24-05-2019 2:21pm

Tenuous connection to crypto given he's a tasteless shítstirring troll on a small Irish sub-forum, but he's ranted about crypto and fraud enough:

JohnnyFlash - self-admitted electoral fraudster!

Funny that, eh? Constantly whinging about a technology that would render this impossible and taking advantage of the fact that it currently isn't, what a guy.

Pintman Paddy Losty · 24-05-2019 4:09pm

grindle wrote: »

Tenuous connection to crypto given he's a tasteless shítstirring troll on a small Irish sub-forum, but he's ranted about crypto and fraud enough:

JohnnyFlash - self-admitted electoral fraudster!

Funny that, eh? Constantly whinging about a technology that would render this impossible and taking advantage of the fact that it currently isn't, what a guy.

Cop on ffs.

Loads of people vote twice. Myself included. I have a holiday home in wicklow. I spend most of my weekends in the summer there. Very plugged in to local issues and pay plenty if tax there. Why the hell shouldn't I be able to vote there as well as in Dublin.

grindle · 24-05-2019 5:08pm

Wowowow, a new entry, so quickly too!

Pintman Paddy Losty.
I never would've expected this kind of carry-on at all.

I don't give a toss where you live or if you think it justifies a right to more than one vote. The mod - and more importantly the government - seem to think it's illegal:

nuac wrote:

Are you suggesting duplication of polling cards allows you to vote twice? Not so. that would be a criminal offence.

110 Prohibition on voting by person registered as elector when not entitled to be so registered.

110. (1) A person—

(a) who is registered in the register of local government electors for the time being in force for a local electoral area but is not entitled to be so registered, or

(b) who is not registered in that register,

shall not vote in that local electoral area.

(2) A person who contravenes sub-article (1) shall be guilty of an offence.

Beyond admitting that you also commit the offence, your attempt to justify it is an offence in itself:

113 Misleading statement as to process of voting.

113. Any person who, before or during an election, makes or publishes any statement which is likely to mislead voters as to the actual process of voting shall be guilty of an offence.

Cop on ffs. Any critique of fraud by you guys any point from now on has been completely devalued by yourselves.

unkel · 24-05-2019 5:40pm

Unbelievable stuff. How the hell is it even possible to be registered for voting twice? This register is obviously not linked to social security (PPS) records. Only in Ireland :rolleyes:

grindle · 24-05-2019 5:48pm

unkel wrote: »

Unbelievable stuff. How the hell is it even possible to be registered for voting twice? This register is obviously not linked to social security (PPS) records. Only in Ireland :rolleyes:

Yeah, we're 2-3 years out from them applying PPS numbers to the register, "consultation" takes that long. Another "Only in Ireland" to place right beside our two resident hypocrite criminal fraudsters.

Pintman Paddy Losty · 24-05-2019 8:30pm

grindle wrote: »

Wowowow, a new entry, so quickly too!

Pintman Paddy Losty.
I never would've expected this kind of carry-on at all.

I don't give a toss where you live or if you think it justifies a right to more than one vote. The mod - and more importantly the government - seem to think it's illegal:

Beyond admitting that you also commit the offence, your attempt to justify it is an offence in itself:

Cop on ffs. Any critique of fraud by you guys any point from now on has been completely devalued by yourselves.

Hahaha. Yeah it's the crime of the century. I'm sure the fuzz will be bashing the door in chez Losty any minute now. :rolleyes:

Voting twice in the same constituency I can see the issue. Two separate ones which I am present and require representation in is victimless.

It'll be a sad day when the block chain replaces the electoral register. Thankfully it won't be coming any time soon.

grindle · 24-05-2019 8:48pm

Why would the fuzz come? Sher what spaz cares enough to report a crime that barely influences whether vanilla milkshake #1 replaces vanilla milkshake #2?
But it makes a mockery of any critique ye've ever had because ye're fraudulent criminals arguing against a fraud prevention technology. Blockchain will remove these kinds of instances of criminality across many levels, from the very bottom right up to this scrotesucking level ye're at and all the way up. Sad you can't see the positive in that. Or can you?

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

It'll be a sad day when the block chain replaces the electoral register. Thankfully it won't be coming any time soon.

Ooh, "when" not "if"? #bullish

JohnnyFlash · 24-05-2019 9:23pm

What you need is a PPS number, and a database which contains records of those entitled to vote. Not some bizarre Rube Goldberg system. There's not a democratic voting system in the world that would be improved by including muh blockchain in it.

grindle · 25-05-2019 1:23pm

What do you know about democracy? That you can take advantage of and debase it in it's current form?

makeorbrake · 03-06-2019 7:39pm

Justin Sun just paid $4 million to have lunch with Warren Buffett. I very much doubt the Oracle of Omaha is going to change his opinion on the basis of that encounter!!

What is guaranteed is Mr. Sun will be making all kinds of wild claims as an outcome to that meeting.

lostboy75 · 03-06-2019 8:04pm

makeorbrake wrote: »

Justin Sun just paid $4 million to have lunch with Warren Buffett. I very much doubt the Oracle of Omaha is going to change his opinion on the basis of that encounter!!
What is guaranteed is Mr. Sun will be making all kinds of wild claims as an outcome to that meeting.

What's just as bad is, he had been tweeting about some big news he can possibly announce for days, and the news. He's having lunch. Someone needs to ban him from Twitter...

stockshares · 03-06-2019 8:17pm

Lads what's with the posts on the voting and what relevance have they to this thread

makeorbrake · 03-06-2019 8:54pm

lostboy75 wrote: »

What's just as bad is, he had been tweeting about some big news he can possibly announce for days, and the news. He's having lunch. Someone needs to ban him from Twitter...

For that reason (and the fact that he's lied about the origins of the project), he (and the project he's backing) holds no credibility for me. His pimping of stuff he's done so many times, it means that you can't believe a word (or tweet) that comes from him now...even if there may be something tangible behind individual utterances.

I really liked the approach with Bittorrent - to me its a very interesting project. If it wasn't for Tron/Sun, I'd look at it in a lot more detail. I'm still curious as to how that will all pan out ...but just looking as a bystander.

Whelo79 · 03-06-2019 8:57pm

Have a read of his official medium post regarding the lunch. Very well put and explained.

https://medium.com/@Tronfoundation/an-open-letter-to-the-community-warren-buffett-charity-lunch-8c5bf25d4fe8

Whelo79 · 03-06-2019 9:10pm

makeorbrake wrote: »

For that reason (and the fact that he's lied about the origins of the project), he (and the project he's backing) holds no credibility for me. His pimping of stuff he's done so many times, it means that you can't believe a word (or tweet) that comes from him now...even if there may be something tangible behind individual utterances.

I really liked the approach with Bittorrent - to me its a very interesting project. If it wasn't for Tron/Sun, I'd look at it in a lot more detail. I'm still curious as to how that will all pan out ...but just looking as a bystander.

Here's his original tweet from a few days ago.

https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1134653263855251456?s=19

Is it his fault that people jump all over it and play to the 'buy the rumor sell the news' nonsense. I reckon Sun is an ethernal optimist and sees many of his moves and announcements as 'big and exciting' for his long term vision of blockchain and Tron. 'Speculators' want to see the big pump, make their money and get out. When this doesn't happen they sh1t all over the project calling it a scam etc.

makeorbrake · 03-06-2019 9:14pm

Whelo79 wrote: »

Is it his fault that people jump all over it and play to the 'buy the rumor sell the news' nonsense. I reckon Sun is an ethernal optimist and sees many of his moves and announcements as 'big and exciting' for his long term vision of blockchain and Tron. 'Speculators' want to see the big pump, make their money and get out. When this doesn't happen they sh1t all over the project calling it a scam etc.

Of course there is over exuberance in the marketplace but Sun knows this well. The position he holds in the industry comes with responsibility. Perhaps you are right - but I really, really doubt it.

Furthermore, he has consistently lied re. the Tron whitepaper.

I have not read the two links you provided as a long time ago, I took the decision not to read Tron and J.Sun related news (for the most part). He could have a great approach in terms of this 'initiative' - but his credibility is already shot.

Whelo79 · 03-06-2019 9:37pm

makeorbrake wrote: »

I have not read the two links you provided as a long time ago, I took the decision not to read Tron and J.Sun related news (for the most part).

So you just pick up on the sh1te posted here and elsewhere by the loudest imbeciles? Not exactly the greatest tactic. I would suggest reading the short medium article to potentially provide you with a more balanced opinion on his reasons for spending $4.6m for the opportunity to lunch with Warren Buffet.

makeorbrake · 03-06-2019 9:40pm

Whelo79 wrote: »

So you just pick up on the sh1te posted here and elsewhere by the loudest imbeciles? Not exactly the greatest tactic. I would suggest reading the short medium article to potentially provide you with a more balanced opinion on his reasons for spending $4.6m for the opportunity to lunch with Warren Buffet.

To answer you're question, I do form opinions based on the guys past actions and utterances. If I didn't believe re. his antics in relation to the whitepaper, perhaps I would see him as credible.

Are you holding any TRON or BTT?

Whelo79 · 03-06-2019 9:51pm

makeorbrake wrote: »

To answer you're question, I do form opinions based on the guys past actions and utterances. If I didn't believe re. his antics in relation to the whitepaper, perhaps I would see him as credible.

Are you holding any TRON or BTT?

Yes, I've been holding a small amount of TRX since around Oct/Nov 2017. I am just under break even point currently but I would have no intentions of selling for a number of years yet.

The white paper issue has been explained to death.

1. As far as I can recall the English translation (which is where the issues regarding plagiarism where) did not match the Chinese version.

2. Blockchain is all open source. Every new project is 'plagarised' to some extent.

3. 'If' they have copied elements of other projects they have advanced them a hell of a lot further and faster than any of those other supposed projects. Tron have hit or exceeded every timescale and project milestone they set themselves to date.

I neither buy more Trx off the back of his tweets, and I certainly don't buy off the fantasy rumours created by people desperate to get rich quick, nor do I sell on the 'inevitable' disappointing news.

From what I see if Tron it is a promising and rapidly progressing project, along with BTT. Sun's questionable tweeting aside I have no reason to doubt it's long term success.

makeorbrake · 03-06-2019 9:55pm

@Whelo79: You may be right - perhaps there is mileage in the project. As I mentioned earlier, I was (and I am) intrigued by the move towards Bittorrent. As regards open source, no problem with that either. However, acknowledge. It's not so much that there was plagiarism - it's the continued denial....and it's what that means for someones credibility going forward.

I'd have looked a lot closer at BTT if it wasn't for this backdrop. And his intentions may be good re. this approach with Buffett but he has destroyed his own credibility already.

Whelo79 · 03-06-2019 10:04pm

makeorbrake wrote: »

It's not so much that there was plagiarism - it's the continued denial....and it's what that means for someones credibility going forward.

I'd have looked a lot closer at BTT if it wasn't for this backdrop. And his intentions may be good re. this approach with Buffett but he has destroyed his own credibility already.

Again, I'd have to double check, but I can't be bothered to do so at the minute, however I am pretty positive the Chinese whitepaper and English translation did not match up. The 'plagarism' only existed in the english translation and this is something that was put down to improper/lazy translation by those responsible and came well in advance of Tron even having a working product.

And in regards to you stating "the continued denial" I haven't heard anything about it being brought up in probably a year (before/after they successfully launched their mainnet) other than the usually troll comments that comes with every Tron news/announcement/announcement of an announcement.

makeorbrake · 03-06-2019 10:10pm

Whelo79 wrote: »

And in regards to you stating "the continued denial" I haven't heard anything about it being brought up in probably a year (before/after they successfully launched their mainnet) other than the usually troll comments that comes with every Tron news/announcement/announcement of an announcement.

LINK

Whelo79 · 03-06-2019 10:55pm

makeorbrake wrote: »

LINK

It's interesting that the article has multiple hyperlinked articles throughout it but yet none where Morris says "Which is obviously hard [to maintain], because there’s actual proof [of the plagiarism] out there.”

Maybe there is no proof???

And also, I said the accusation hasn't come up in probably a year. Morris has not worked with Sun/Tron/BitTorrent since July 2018.

makeorbrake · 03-06-2019 11:19pm

Whelo79 wrote: »

It's interesting that the article has multiple hyperlinked articles throughout it but yet none where Morris says "Which is obviously hard [to maintain], because there’s actual proof [of the plagiarism] out there.”

Maybe there is no proof???

I'm not about to go digging through stuff (nor do I claim to be any sort of expert on Tron - far from it). However, they rightly linked to information to back up what they used / stated in the article. They don't have to do so when they interview someone directly i.e. Morris' statements to them are a direct reference. Now if you're saying he's wrong or he's lying - maybe he is.

Whelo79 wrote: »

And also, I said the accusation hasn't come up in probably a year. Morris has not worked with Sun/Tron/BitTorrent since July 2018.

Ok, well that interview was in January - and naturally it refers to times past when he spoke of the whitepaper. There is some further info to be had in that in terms of his interaction with Sun on the matter.

That's if you find him credible. Perhaps he's got an axe to grind...you tell me.

Whelo79 · 03-06-2019 11:36pm

I know little too nothing of Morris other than as a CEO or former CEO he is not acting in a very professional manner within that interview.

My only point here really is, don't take at face value all the tripe that is/has been going around about Tron and Sun. You know yourself people support their coins like it were there favourite football team.

I linked you a good article directly from Sun which explains why he bought this lunch (all of the costs he paid go directly to charity) and what value he believes it can bring to the world of crypto/blockchain. Read it, or not, that's up to your good self.

makeorbrake · 03-06-2019 11:42pm

Whelo79 wrote: »

You know yourself people support their coins like it were there favourite football team.

On that, we are entirely in agreement i.e. that it's next to impossible to figure out truth from lies in this space because everyone brings their own 'crypto baggage' into it.

Whelo79 wrote: »

I linked you a good article directly from Sun which explains why he bought this lunch (all of the costs he paid go directly to charity) and what value he believes it can bring to the world of crypto/blockchain. Read it, or not, that's up to your good self.

I like the idea - it certainly can't do any damage from the point of 'rat poison squared'! However, I just wondered about the best man for the job and Justin wouldn't have been my first pick. :-)

Whelo79 · 03-06-2019 11:57pm

He gets to invite 7 guests and he has said he will be bringing leaders from within the blockchain community. Here's hoping he gets some good people on board.

JohnnyFlash · 03-06-2019 11:58pm

Justin Sun is class. My crypto hero.

Dodgy characters of the Crypto boom

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