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Going a tad hipster old stylee here...
1920's Longines Pocketwatch as issued to the Serbian Railways. Gave it a bit of a regulation tweak and over the last week it's gained just two seconds. That's in different positions too.
55 mm across. Steel/nickel case. On the back it has an old steam engine engraving and the letters representing the rail network.
A longines reissue wristwatch, the "Railroad" had the same engraving referencing the original. You can even get a new Longines pocketwatch that's pretty much exactly the same dial, with the choochoo on the back.
Movement.
Behind two (very tight) covers a Longines calibre 21.54, 15 jewels. Big oul balance with a Breguet overcoil which really helps with accuracy. Regulator is near dab smack in the centre too, always a good sign of a healthy movement. Still mad accurate even today for a non chronometer spec movement.
Then again they were always at the top end of the chronometer trials of the 20th century, fighting it out with Zenith, Omega, Nardin and Movado and usually beating them by quite a margin(other brands barely got a look in with those top level companies). That influenced their workaday movements. Though oddly given their record and unlike near every other big brand they rarely produced retail watches and forward them for chronometer accreditation. Another difference with the brand was they rarely offered different grades of the same inhouse movements. It's vanishingly rare to see a very ornate factory finished Longines movement, or for that matter a lower grade movement(which they just didn't make), they just did the one grade the vast majority of the time. Even their chronometer movements are plain.
Price wise? Pocketwatches are usually much cheaper, except for mad complications ones or names like Patek. One of these railway ones, figure 2-300 quid tops for a half decently preserved example, maybe add another hundred odd quid for a really nice one with a sharp case and dial and clean movement.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Join Date:Posts: 59004
Thanks guys. Like I say though, they're not mad money, nowhere near what a reissue new one would cost(3000 + grand, minus the history and dial quality) here's an example for just over two hundred quids. They were issued for a few decades and were an expensive item and a work tool so were generally well looked after. What stories some of them could tell.
Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Join Date:Posts: 59004
From my previous oh so elegant pocketwatch to let's smoke funny cigarettes in the 1970's...
My French made LIP from 1975.
The LIP company a well loved French brand that had been in on things like the first successful electronic watch movement, supporting the first Blancpain 50 fathoms and a few Breitling they sold through their distributor networks had fallen on hard times and looked to a few designers to go full modern. Roger Tallon was one, chap who had designed motorbikes, funky TV's, the TGV train and bits of the Eurotunnel and he came up with this(and in a chronograph). The quartz engined one is the rarest as it was an in house movement and expensive. The president of the French Republic in the 70's one Giscard d'Estaing wore one apparently and some French folks called them the Giscard.
OK, yeah, it's eye of the beholder alright. I bloody love it I have to say. A very different take on watch design and one that pushed the boat out. Made Swiss efforts from guys like Genta look like mock Tudor semidees(Genta dug these funny enough, probably liked that the Tallon lad was let be more free with design than he could be). Very well made and engineered solid lump of anodised alloy too. Decades before "designer watches" with it. And boy if you want to have people notice and often comment on a watch, then man oh man this is the boyo and no mistake.
*Oops, sorry EDIT* "Value" on these runs about the 500-600 quid mark, you might lucky at an auction at 3-400. Dealers charge more. Time was 50 or 100 quid would source one, if you could find on, but since more mainstream stuff has gone a bit daft in price, some have gotten into the more madcap/unusual/rare/early quartz so... Still, not too bad IMHO for something that is so madcap/unusual/rare.
This appears to be an early or even a preproduction example. It's the only one out there with the silver minute track on the outside. Has some oddball internal diffs too.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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