Brexit discussion thread VIII (Please read OP before posting)

Headshot · 03-04-2019 11:27PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

and now we wait for the full results to see who jumped ship

Im gripped to my seat, cannot wait to see what Conservatives jumped

03-04-2019 11:28PM

Headshot wrote: »

1 vote away

wow wow wow

Mark Francois is steaming with rage.

MPFGLB · 03-04-2019 11:28PM

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

I hope everyone has seen that clip. It really is worth watching and realising the depth of the sh*t that they have landed themselves in.....

https://twitter.com/BBCSpotlightNI/status/1113199323838390272

Tis guy is ridiculous ...'Nothing or no one will stop us leaving the EU " ...who does he think he is ...If the people change their mind as poles are showing and a majority want to remain now and Labour and Trade Unions are calling for a referendum on any deal including the option to remain in then what will that guy do ??

The DUP are the biggest ***** ever...power hungry and wanting to be seen as the king makers ....completely ignoring the will of the people of NI to remain in EU ..They should have stood by the SNP and others .But if they had one brain cell between them they would have realised this .Even the EU offer of NI remaining in EU customs arrangement and in UK market as part of the exit deal was a superb offer with NI in the best of both world...imagine the companies who would want to relocate there..but no they rejected that too ...and for what ...If they are not voted out in the next election then something is seriously wrong somewhere

No the intellectual heavy weights stood with the ERG ...Why ??

ancapailldorcha · 03-04-2019 11:30PM

No more insults please. Serious discussion only.

LuckyLloyd · 03-04-2019 11:31PM

BobbyBobberson wrote: »

https://twitter.com/NickBoles/status/1113535648688951296

Bit of honesty from Nick Boles.

The replies from MEP Woolfe to that tweet are astonishing. The mask really starting to slip for some of the hard Brexiteers.

Professor Moriarty · 03-04-2019 11:34PM

Cooper passed by one vote. So says The Guardian...

WomanSkirtFan8 · 03-04-2019 11:34PM

Headshot wrote: »

This has made my night, DUP hopefully going to get their just deserts now and hopefully the NI people see how the DUP has ****ed them over and we never see this group in power in NI again

Mine too. I was beginning to wonder just how long it would be before the cracks between the Tories and the DUP would begin to appear. Oh well, what goes around, comes around I suppose.:rolleyes:

03-04-2019 11:35PM

Oh god the adjournment debate.

ancapailldorcha · 03-04-2019 11:35PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

No more insults please. Serious discussion only.

Post deleted.

BobbyBobberson · 03-04-2019 11:38PM

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1113570218721329157

A man of God and a man of the army.

Currently watching Peston, Nadine Dorries is not happy.

Capt'n Midnight · 03-04-2019 11:38PM

Should get rubber stamped by the Lords tomorrow given their track record on Brexit.

The UK still needs to produce something worth an extension, but that's another story.

ShooterSF · 03-04-2019 11:39PM

This just gets more and more crazy. They are now going to make their PM request an extension she doesn't want. I can see that being a passionate speech in front of the EU. Were they not listening when the EU said they had to have a firm plan in place. The debate to pick a date will probably end up like the indicative votes. Part of me is actually looking forward to them being told where to go.

Headshot · 03-04-2019 11:40PM

Islam saying

"Nobody from Government has replied in Commons ... which seems extraordinary - seizing control of order paper is one thing - actually passing statute in this way extraordinary...

Obviously none of this could happen to a Govt with a majority."

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1113570111602987013

Professor Moriarty · 03-04-2019 11:43PM

The past few weeks have been surreal. Game Of Thrones is more believable.

BobbyBobberson · 03-04-2019 11:43PM

The only thing that will last longer that the past three years mess will be the inevitable public enquiry.

Panrich · 03-04-2019 11:45PM

So what is the significance of this vote. She won’t go to bat for a long extension so she could ask for a very short one again.

RickBlaine · 03-04-2019 11:48PM

What has the Cooper bill actually changed? I thought May was asking for an extension anyway?

A Dub in Glasgo · 03-04-2019 11:48PM

The 14 Tories who voted for the bill

ancapailldorcha · 03-04-2019 11:49PM

RickBlaine wrote: »

What has the Cooper bill actually changed? I thought May was asking for an extension anyway?

It's legally binding this time as opposed to the previous motion.

BobbyBobberson · 03-04-2019 11:49PM

I could be wrong here but the bill puts it into law? Where as May was just May saying that. Someone please correct me if I have got that wrong.

A Dub in Glasgo · 03-04-2019 11:50PM

The 9 Labour who voted against the bill

Headshot · 03-04-2019 11:50PM

hmm not many big surprises I don't think.

Maybe Alistair Burt is one

Professor Moriarty · 03-04-2019 11:52PM

RickBlaine wrote: »

What has the Cooper bill actually changed? I thought May was asking for an extension anyway?

It rules out No Deal completely insofar as it forces May to ask for an extension. Prior to this, May could have let the clock run down to the 12th and crash out.

Capt'n Midnight · 03-04-2019 11:52PM

Results here https://commonsvotes.digiminster.com/

European Union (Withdrawal) (No.5) Bill Third Reading 313 to 312
Ayes https://commonsvotes.digiminster.com/Divisions/Details/678?byMember=false

Noes https://commonsvotes.digiminster.com/Divisions/Details/678?byMember=false#noes

Didn't Vote https://commonsvotes.digiminster.com/Divisions/Details/678?byMember=false#notrecorded

jester77 · 03-04-2019 11:52PM

So this bill is forcing her to do something that she was going to have to do anyway. I don't see the logic in this.

mcbert · 03-04-2019 11:52PM

So May would legally be required to ask for an extension. Nothing about how long, nothing about EP elections? So what has changed? EU's position is the same: sign up or crash out...

LeinsterDub · 03-04-2019 11:53PM

RickBlaine wrote: »

What has the Cooper bill actually changed? I thought May was asking for an extension anyway?

Nothing really has changed. May could ask the EU for a 1 ms extension which they could accept or reject and she'd have met the requirements of this bill.

03-04-2019 11:53PM

BobbyBobberson wrote: »

The only thing that will last longer that the past three years mess will be the inevitable public enquiry.

Where the EU will, of course, be scapegoated entirely except for a token "the behaviour of some Brexiteers might have bordered on the reckless". The predictability of it all really has an awe of its own.

Panrich · 03-04-2019 11:54PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

It rules out No Deal completely insofar as it forces May to ask for an extension. Prior to this, May could have let the clock run down to the 12th and crash out.

But the criteria for an extension still have to be met by the UK so no deal remains the likely outcome despite this vote.

ToBeFrank123 · 03-04-2019 11:54PM

Just more can kicking then without a serious plan. Can't see the EU buying that!

Brexit discussion thread VIII (Please read OP before posting)

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