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Anyone else not want children?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭keith_sixteen


    But the having a baby, poo nappies, colic, crying, toddler, potty training, paying for childcare, babysitting, going to A+E, dealing with tantrums, life on hold, teen madness is for you, go for it.

    Yep, that's literally what it's like! All the time! NOBODY EVER HAVE KIDS!!

    TANTRUMS, LIFE ON HOLD, A&E, CRYING***...TODDLER??

    ***Disclaimer - also affects adults


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Addle wrote: »
    This is one of the most patronising articles I've ever had the misfortune of reading.
    https://m.independent.ie/life/katie-byrne-why-do-women-who-are-childless-by-circumstance-feel-compelled-to-take-the-road-less-travelled-36453045.html
    I certainly don't choose extra curricular activities just to justify my childless existence. Such sh!te.
    "Socially infertile" who thinks up this crap? :pac:


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    is there anyway to check if I've written in this Thread already?!? I'm doubting what my Reply would be has changed anyway! :rolleyes::rolleyes::(

    If you click the number of posts in the forum listing, you get this page. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=2056975245 You hadn't posted here before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭noddyone2


    We decided not to get sprogged when we married in 1971. Never regretted it. Came up against a lot of opposition though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Spleerbun


    At this moment in time I'm fairly indifferent, don't think about it much. Defo don't want any at the moment but that may change over the next few years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    noddyone2 wrote: »
    We decided not to get sprogged when we married in 1971. Never regretted it. Came up against a lot of opposition though!

    The riding made up for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭valoren


    It's an indication of a healthy attitude if someone decides they don't want children. They can determine the consequences, the sacrifices, the responsibility and the work involved and chose to not go that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭Pronto63


    Anyone else not want children?


    Me.

    I've got 2.

    Any takers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,547 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    I don't have a big desire either way.
    Myself and then wife are happy at the moment and doing well financially. Having a kid would definitely ruin the financial part.

    Maybe in a few years if we have some more income and live in a nicer area.


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've probably posted in here. Opinion hasn't changed..

    I see a very happy family life with loving parents close to me. Absolutely fair play. They put in the work and have a great kid.

    I like kids grand these days because of that little guy, but it'll never be for me.


    What makes me wonder is my brother a decade older talking about he's getting a bit of an idea that he wants one. He's a serial dater and is considering settling down for it. I feel like my mind is set at 31 but seeing him talk about it is stopping me getting the snip.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    I go different ways on this depending on the day to be honest.

    On one hand, I love having the freedom to do whatever I want in a way I couldn't if I was responsible for the life of a little human that's completely dependant on me. I'm getting into my 30s now but I feel I still have quite a selfish young person mentality that isn't fitting of parenthood.

    That said, not one person I know who's had a child has ever given me the impression that they'd trade their child for being able to go on the lash/go on holiday/whatever anytime they like. For them, any sacrifice is worth it as they just love this little person like nothing else. I like to hope I'd be like that if I ended up having a child that was unplanned.

    Another aspect is that I'd worry about my ability to provide for a child and the responsibility of doing so. I make a bang-average salary and I do fine on it but kids seem so expensive. My parents both made great salaries when I was growing up and were able to take me on lots of great holidays, give me great presents etc. Not saying for a second that you need to do this to be a good parent but I think it's natural to want to give your child the same kind of upbringing you had (if it was good) or better (if things were tight), and I doubt my ability to do that.

    Basically, I'm not sure. Love kids though. The fact they're discovering the world for the first time and things that are mundane to us can hold so much wonder to them is adorable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    RWCNT wrote: »
    That said, not one person I know who's had a child has ever given me the impression that they'd trade their child for being able to go on the lash/go on holiday/whatever anytime they like. For them, any sacrifice is worth it as they just love this little person like nothing else. I like to hope I'd be like that if I ended up having a child that was unplanned.

    You would be like that, Guaranteed. I had a unplanned kid with my partner when we very young. I love him more than anyhting would die for him in a heartbeat had some amazing moments with him but do I want another one? fuck no.


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do men fall into that easier that women? The post-birth depression or whatever it's actually called seems to only be talked about in relation to the mother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,977 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    I didn't want kids in my twenties - told everyone who would listen how kids wouldn't be for me..

    I've three now and they bust my balls daily - to the point of distraction. Wouldn't be without them for a second though.

    OP - do what makes you happy but you need to ensure your partner is aware.


  • Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do men fall into that easier that women? The post-birth depression or whatever it's actually called seems to only be talked about in relation to the mother.

    Post-natal depression. I would bet my house on it that men can also experience this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    I was much like the OP for much of my twenties, although maybe not as strident. Even up to 18 months ago, the thoughts of a baby terrified me. But a few things happened in our lives with people getting sick and it changed our perspective on things. Anyway, we decided we were in a lucky position and now our first is due in 5 weeks. I'm not going to be one of those who says (rather annoyingly) "never say never" but things can happen and change your outlook on things. It did for us anyway.


  • Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Too late for me either way :) We have had two kids already (8 and 5 now) and a third is about to come any moment. Showing all the signs of wanting to come early too. Fighting to get out to it's - gosh what do I even call them, step siblings I guess?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Aw come on, they are unbearably cute



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    VivaMessi wrote: »
    I'm 25 with my partner and the thoughts of having children makes me literally sick. Looking after them non stop till their 11 or 12. Then leeching money off you till they finish college or longer. Anyone else feel like this because I don't know what I'm gonna say to my partner when she wants to start trying. I never want children

    if you think you only look after them till there 11 or 12 you better off not having them :pac::pac: the shock alone mite kill you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Western Lowland Gorilla


    Definitely not and am looking into getting the snip to make damn sure of it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    No. I do not want children. If a future partner does we can discuss it, but i would not encourage it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Too late for me either way :) We have had two kids already (8 and 5 now) and a third is about to come any moment. Showing all the signs of wanting to come early too. Fighting to get out to it's - gosh what do I even call them, step siblings I guess?

    In no way trying to question the validity of your set-up: you do you. Curious though, how does the child rearing work in the context of your polyamarous relationship? Do the kids you already have with one of your partners consider the other partner a parent, does she see them as her family to some extent?

    Apologies if I've got any details wrong, just going from memory of posts you've made about your family before.


  • Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RWCNT wrote: »
    Do the kids you already have with one of your partners consider the other partner a parent, does she see them as her family to some extent?

    Pretty much see her as their mammy too yes. Just a third parent. Hell even her parents see themselves as grandparents now too. Though they are of course exceedingly excited to be becoming _actual_ grand parents soon too. Yet they have been every bit as invested in my kids so far as the actual grand parents are. Which has been wonderful to be honest. I could not have asked for more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭Cina


    I do "want" children but I also don't want them to grow up in the potential future, which is their lives being terrible due to the lifestyles we and our previous generations have lived. Ultimately if things keep going this way, by the time they are in their 30's - 40's things will be very, very bad for them. I'd feel guilty bringing a child into the world knowing that, especially as, let's face it, the main reason we have kids is for purely selfish reasons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Too late for me either way :) We have had two kids already (8 and 5 now) and a third is about to come any moment. Showing all the signs of wanting to come early too. Fighting to get out to it's - gosh what do I even call them, step siblings I guess?
    If they have the same father and different mothers, they are half siblings. Step siblings is only if there is no blood connection, usually when two people who already have kids get married.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    VivaMessi wrote: »
    I'm 25 with my partner and the thoughts of having children makes me literally sick. .... I don't know what I'm gonna say to my partner when she wants to start trying.....

    Tell her that she is too old now to have children? That will really make you a darling :D

    I'll tell you a real story about my friend. He is now 45. Ages ago, in his 20s, he and his wife decided not to have children. Then he turns 43 and has an affair. Bam, his new lover gets pregnant and decides to keep the baby. So he dumps his wife and goes to live with the lover and to raise the baby. He is now everywhere with the little guy, making pictures, teaching him to walk and stuff. Happy man.

    Who's not happy? Any guesses?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    victor8600 wrote: »
    Tell her that she is too old now to have children? That will really make you a darling :D

    I'll tell you a real story about my friend. He is now 45. Ages ago, in his 20s, he and his wife decided not to have children. Then he turns 43 and has an affair. Bam, his new lover gets pregnant and decides to keep the baby. So he dumps his wife and goes to live with the lover and to raise the baby. He is now everywhere with the little guy, making pictures, teaching him to walk and stuff. Happy man.

    Who's not happy? Any guesses?

    Probably his wife, who he betrayed by cheating on?

    Don't blame her tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    VivaMessi wrote: »
    I'm 25 with my partner and the thoughts of having children makes me literally sick. Looking after them non stop till their 11 or 12. Then leeching money off you till they finish college or longer. Anyone else feel like this because I don't know what I'm gonna say to my partner when she wants to start trying. I never want children

    Did you have a loveless childhood or were you a single offspring?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Cina wrote: »
    I do "want" children but I also don't want them to grow up in the potential future, which is their lives being terrible due to the lifestyles we and our previous generations have lived. Ultimately if things keep going this way, by the time they are in their 30's - 40's things will be very, very bad for them. I'd feel guilty bringing a child into the world knowing that, especially as, let's face it, the main reason we have kids is for purely selfish reasons.

    I' m sorry but this is absolute horse sh*t
    Its one of the easiest time to be alive in human history ,

    Imagine in the past you had to worry about being cut down by someone with a sword in a forest looking to rape and pillage you village while you where out hunting and scrambling for any bit of food you could get,

    Or when the famine was around and you couldn't eat

    Or when the plague or small pox's killed all your family,

    Or when women couldn't vote and you had to do everything the church told you ,

    We live In the most easiest and pampered time in human history ,
    Its tuff if you LET your self get caught up in the nonsense and owe your arse out but that's all your own fault ,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Kilboor


    Ok so don't have children?


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