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Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly [Mod warning post #1]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    this is pure rubbish today, like a phone in agony aunt slot.....

    this guy saying he is 55, surplus to requirements, its always been that way, nothing to offer, on invalidity pension. I know that man could be depressed but this isnt very uplifting radio. ……..and Ciara saying he "amazes" her? Why? (maybe I missed something?) I think 55 is young, so much living still to do, so many opportunities these days to grab life and start again!
    next caller saying how hard and isolating life is as a smoker...……. not topics most people can relate to or get engaged with. This is becoming like the Joe Duffy Show!

    The Late Late Show, Ray D'arcy Show, are all becoming one big whingefest, sad stories, cancer, terminal illness. Am I out of step or is this the new entertainment, hearing other people's hard life stories? A lot of people need counselling and support but the national airways aren't where its found.

    I honestly don't know are you taking the p*ss with this comment or not.

    Seriously? Have you read this thread or do you just come in to post when something annoys you (as you have said you do) and then leave.

    Breaking News. Someone on the internet is constantly annoyed and today it is the fact that other people seem constantly annoyed which annoys them.

    Thank you. That's enough internet for me today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Today is my first time listening to Ciara Kelly.
    Let's see.
    I'm optimistic!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 8,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wilberto


    Tbh, it's terrible on a Friday at the best of times, but it seems like they've made an extra effort today to be truly awful.

    It basically turned into a counselling session. I don't want to listen to that.

    Thank god for Sean Moncrieff anyway, that's all I'll say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    What was she supposed to do? Cut him off? He called to complain that he is not able to smoke inside and then it turned into this big life story. I bet if she finished the conversation quickly there would be people complaining she is a heartless bitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭goochy


    they would probably be right- how she got on Virgin media is beyond me - her and Matt well suited


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Murdoc90 wrote: »
    "Unscripted" my hoop. Shows like this make me really miss Gerry Ryan.


    Caller:"Good morning Gerry, today I made a cake for my husbands birthday"


    Gerry: "Oh lovely and tell me this, did you sit on it for him"



    This is unscripted radio.


    :pac:


  • Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I honestly don't know are you taking the p*ss with this comment or not.

    Seriously? Have you read this thread or do you just come in to post when something annoys you (as you have said you do) and then leave.

    Breaking News. Someone on the internet is constantly annoyed and today it is the fact that other people seem constantly annoyed which annoys them.

    Thank you. That's enough internet for me today.



    Have I read this thread ? Not sure what you mean by that. Do I have to read the whole thread before I post on it ? I’m not asking you to agree with me or like what I say . I’m entitled to say how I feel about the odd show. I certainly don’t post everyday . But as soon as I do you pounce on me?

    Lots of us here think this “live and unscripted “ is pure tosh. Lots of others said the same about today but you jump on me .
    I don’t care , it’s not going to stop me having an opinion. Today’s show was particularly uninspiring and flat . By comparison I loved Susan Keogh last week , so easy on the ear and no interrupting or stammering . THERE I said something positive .
    Have a lovely weekend :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭goochy


    i would have no problem with ' live and unscripted ' if she didnt make out it was a game changing / radical development in radio - the more you build something up the more people expect of it - if she didnt make such a big deal of it we wouldnt mind

    on another note - did you see pic. on Ciara on front page of Sindo yesterday promoting her mothers day tribute ? is it just me or does she look a bit disturbed at times ? i.e her facial expressions


  • Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    goochy wrote: »
    i would have no problem with ' live and unscripted ' if she didnt make out it was a game changing / radical development in radio - the more you build something up the more people expect of it - if she didnt make such a big deal of it we wouldnt mind

    on another note - did you see pic. on Ciara on front page of Sindo yesterday promoting her mothers day tribute ? is it just me or does she look a bit disturbed at times ? i.e her facial expressions

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    It's interesting to see schoolyard bitchiness is just as present among adults.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭redbuck


    Does she still practice medicine?

    Did her media work start from her weekly slot on George Hook's show or did she write for the Sindo before that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    She doesn't practice medicine anymore. I don't know what started first (I don't read Indo or Sindo) but I know she mentioned once that parent of her child's schoolmate asked he to write an article about something and the writing continued from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭redbuck


    meeeeh wrote: »
    She doesn't practice medicine anymore. I don't know what started first (I don't read Indo or Sindo) but I know she mentioned once that parent of her child's schoolmate asked he to write an article about something and the writing continued from there.

    Ah yeah that sounds familiar, thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    I don't read the chip wrapper either. Does she having anything to say or is she writing there because she's just part of the meeja golden circle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭redbuck


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    I don't read the chip wrapper either. Does she having anything to say or is she writing there because she's just part of the meeja golden circle?

    Never read it and never plan to, the two hours inflicted daily by my employers is enough without reading her at the weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭jeremyj1968


    In this conversation with Richard Boyd Barrett, I honestly I don't know if she is just disingenuous or just stupid.

    Get Susan Keogh back in ffs, or the radio just goes off again as it does now.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    In this conversation with Richard Boyd Barrett, I honestly I don't know if she is just disingenuous or just stupid.

    I think she nailed his hypocrisy perfectly. Left-wing politicians completely against wealth taxes; ridiculous.


  • Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Amirani wrote: »
    I think she nailed his hypocrisy perfectly. Left-wing politicians completely against wealth taxes; ridiculous.

    I get what you're saying and I don't like Boyd Barrett or Paul whathisname - but how is it fair to link property tax rises to the value of your house!

    I'm earning no more than I did when property tax was introduced or when I bought my house in 2014. House and car Insurance and utilities have all risen since then and will continue to do so, and we are facing carbon taxes in the next budget (and I dont argue with them). I live alone and have only one income. I also pay property maintainence charges of €225 a year. Where are we meant to magic up the extra money for property tax increases?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    Boyd Barrett is a flute.

    Talking out through both sides of his mouth is his party piece ( pun intended ) .


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    I get what you're saying and I don't like Boyd Barrett or Paul whathisname - but how is it fair to link property tax rises to the value of your house!

    I'm earning no more than I did when property tax was introduced or when I bought my house in 2014. House and car Insurance and utilities have all risen since then and will continue to do so, and we are facing carbon taxes in the next budget (and I dont argue with them). I live alone and have only one income. I also pay property maintainence charges of €225 a year. Where are we meant to magic up the extra money for property tax increases?

    Yeah, that's absolutely fair, but you just have to change the implementation of it so. You can do things such as means test property taxes, i.e. people only pay property taxes once they earn a minimum income etc. There are issues too with having it bluntly linked to the market price of the house, there could be other factors included to moderate this somewhat.

    What is completely contrary to left wing ideals, is allowing someone to live in a 2 million house (often when they've benefited from huge tax-free price increases) and not have to pay any tax on this wealth. Being completely against any sort of wealth tax just isn't a truly socialist view.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Ah come on everyone will whinge about paying for property tax and how they don't earn enough, that is just in human nature. People who have to pay rents are a lot more affected, their monthly increases are comparable to what yearly increase in property tax would be. Property owners have it a lot easier, we own an asset and property tax is basically a wealth tax. I'm not going into what our house value is but it was valued cheaply when the house prices were at the bottom. Property tax is a stable tax, not dependent on boom bust cycles, it would make a lot of sense to increase it at the time of economic growth to build some sort of a buffer before Brexit. I certainly wouldn't rely on corporation or income tax. They are just buying the votes because the election is looming. It seems nobody remembers the bust anymore and what over reliance on very variable taxes did to the public finances.

    Ciara Kelly's arguments were completely valid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭goochy


    if a person on min. wage is living in a 500k ex council house - maybe he should move - dont agree with people in council houses being allowed to buy - especially at reduced rates


  • Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Amirani wrote: »
    Yeah, that's absolutely fair, but you just have to change the implementation of it so. You can do things such as means test property taxes, i.e. people only pay property taxes once they earn a minimum income etc. There are issues too with having it bluntly linked to the market price of the house, there could be other factors included to moderate this somewhat.

    What is completely contrary to left wing ideals, is allowing someone to live in a 2 million house (often when they've benefited from huge tax-free price increases) and not have to pay any tax on this wealth. Being completely against any sort of wealth tax just isn't a truly socialist view.

    agreed. Means tested based on your income, especially if its a single income is much fairer. I also agree with USC as its a fairly marked tax, I'm happy with carbon taxes too as we're very late to this particular game.

    I think its the one for all, single blunt sweep that angers people about property tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Means testing would similarly as income tax affect middle income earners. Frankly if people can afford a house they should be able to afford property tax. Broad tax base is needed. And btw tax is means tested by the value of your property.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    Bring back George hook.
    No pc nonsense with him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭goochy


    i actually agree with Ciara for once , us irish are well educated but thick when it comes to these things - you get the government you deserve - we are not like the british or german - we are all out for ourselves - not bothered about the common good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,313 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    meeeeh wrote:
    Means testing would similarly as income tax affect middle income earners. Frankly if people can afford a house they should be able to afford property tax. Broad tax base is needed. And btw tax is means tested by the value of your property.

    It's not right that an OAP in a mid terrace house in Donnycarny can pay more property tax than a large six bedroom one off house in Cavan.

    I'm all in favour of property tax (& water charges) but the present setup is not a fair setup. House size should be included in the calculation & not just house valuation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    It's not right that an OAP in a mid terrace house in Donnycarny can pay more property tax than a large six bedroom one off house in Cavan.

    I'm all in favour of property tax (& water charges) but the present setup is not a fair setup. House size should be included in the calculation & not just house valuation.

    Local authorities can already charge less or more than it's set up by the government. Frankly whenever people start wheeling out OAPs as the most vulnerable category I stop listening to the argument. The same OAP will have transport cost covered and will have a lot better transport, their medical cost will be covered, as far as I kmow there are other subsidies. The oap is sitting on a nice expensive asset with a lot more amenities than six bed in Cavan where most likely they have to pay for their own sevage, water well and install their own oil/gas tank or whatever source of heating they have. They have no public transport, footpaths or lighting. Local property tax pays for local amenities, why should people with a lot less pay more.

    People pay for the privilege to live in expensive neighbourhoods because they have more amenities. Property tax reflects that. I really don't see what the issue is. It's typical bs socialist mentality where we agree with taxes as long as other people pay them not us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,313 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Local authorities can already charge less or more than it's set up by the government. Frankly whenever people start wheeling out OAPs as the most vulnerable category I stop listening to the argument. The same OAP will have transport cost covered and will have a lot better transport, their medical cost will be covered, as far as I kmow there are other subsidies. The oap is sitting on a nice expensive asset with a lot more amenities than six bed in Cavan where most likely they have to pay for their own sevage, water well and install their own oil/gas tank or whatever source of heating they have. They have no public transport, footpaths or lighting. Local property tax pays for local amenities, why should people with a lot less pay more.

    People pay for the privilege to live in expensive neighbourhoods because they have more amenities. Property tax reflects that. I really don't see what the issue is. It's typical bs socialist mentality where we agree with taxes as long as other people pay them not us.


    In bold isn't true. Councils can charge the full amount or less. They can not charge more than the government set up.



    The OAP you saying living in a nice expensive asset is living in a tiny ex council house that is around 80 years old now. It's mid terrace with toilet downstairs. This was fancy at the time it was built as older houses had the outhouse. The six bed house in Cavan could be on an acre of land with stables. You are not comparing like with like. The newly built cavan house will be fully insulated & cost hundreds per year less to heat. Jasus the stables will be better insulated than some old Dublin homes.



    I have a major issue with the excess collected in Dublin going to councils not charging their residents the full amount. It is very wrong that these councils can reduce the amount they charge knowing that ripped off homeowners in Dublin will pick up the slack. The whole setup needs looking at. House & land size needs to be taken into account aswell as property value. Someone in a massive house on it's own plot of land should not be paying less than a tiny mid terrace house anywhere in the country


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    In bold isn't true. Councils can charge the full amount or less. They can not charge more than the government set up.

    Where did you get that from?

    http://www.moneyguideireland.com/property-tax-amounts-2018.html

    You are soapboxing again. it's Dublin Councils who charge less and some of the rural councils are charging more.

    The OAP should then sell their tiny house with toilet downstairs and move into well insulated cheap 6 bedroom Cavan house and pay less tax and less for heating. Or sell the house and rent somewhere suitable, not pay tax and have toilet upstairs. The OAP sitting on an asset with huge value and no mortgage (I assume) is not among those hardest hit.


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