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Guinness is a good drop.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭squawker


    why do pubs still do the two pint pour?

    the low cask / high cask system of pouring a pint just doesn't exist anymore

    is it now just a case of tradition?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    squawker wrote: »
    why do pubs still do the two pint pour?

    the low cask / high cask system of pouring a pint just doesn't exist anymore

    is it now just a case of tradition?

    Tradition and not getting a 2 inch head or a sloppy hand.


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    squawker wrote: »
    why do pubs still do the two pint pour?

    the low cask / high cask system of pouring a pint just doesn't exist anymore

    is it now just a case of tradition?

    Because it’s necessary to get a proper pint. Also is there anything better to watch than a line of pints settling on a bar?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭squawker


    Because it’s necessary to get a proper pint

    but its not, nitro in the barrels is regulated and its all from the same batch

    the two pint pour is irrelevant these days

    Taken from


    http://allaboutbeer.com/man-invented-nitro-guinness/

    To give you a sense of what they were trying to replace, here’s how Martyn Cornell describes Irish Guinness in Amber, Gold, and Black:

    “In the pub, the casks containing this highly conditioned beer were known as ‘high,’ while casks containing maturer, less lively beer were know as ‘low.’ Publicans would fill glasses three-quarters full from the ‘low cask’ and then top them up with foaming beer from the ‘high cask.’ The ‘high’ and ‘low’ cask system was in use until at least the 1960s.”

    Ash recalled this himself. “The barman would take a whole minute to fill one glass. He had to get a low pressure cask over a period of time and then the high pressure one, and he had to mix them. He had to be very skilled, the Irish publican, because it took a minute to get a glass. Every barman had his own process. It was all very amusing.”


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    squawker wrote: »
    but its not, nitro in the barrels is regulated and its all from the same batch

    the two pint pour is irrelevant these days

    Taken from


    http://allaboutbeer.com/man-invented-nitro-guinness/

    To give you a sense of what they were trying to replace, here’s how Martyn Cornell describes Irish Guinness in Amber, Gold, and Black:

    “In the pub, the casks containing this highly conditioned beer were known as ‘high,’ while casks containing maturer, less lively beer were know as ‘low.’ Publicans would fill glasses three-quarters full from the ‘low cask’ and then top them up with foaming beer from the ‘high cask.’ The ‘high’ and ‘low’ cask system was in use until at least the 1960s.”

    Ash recalled this himself. “The barman would take a whole minute to fill one glass. He had to get a low pressure cask over a period of time and then the high pressure one, and he had to mix them. He had to be very skilled, the Irish publican, because it took a minute to get a glass. Every barman had his own process. It was all very amusing.”

    But it is, I’ve had one pint pours and they just aren’t the same. The head is never right for a start.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭squawker


    But it is, I’ve had one pint pours and they just aren’t the same. The head is never right for a start.

    I call placebo on that one, there will be no difference except the head might be a bit bigger on the odd pint


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Nitrogen must exhibit different properties in a Guinness glass than it does anywhere else in the universe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    squawker wrote: »
    I call placebo on that one, there will be no difference except the head might be a bit bigger on the odd pint

    Bigger on most. And bigger is unacceptable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭squawker


    Bigger on most. And bigger is unacceptable.

    but does this change the taste?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    squawker wrote: »
    but does this change the taste?

    I don't know these days, I get a replacement. But yes any time I did before it was unpleasant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Much better from a can than a bottle imo but nothing beats a pint from the tap, absolute nectar (provided it’s a good pint that is).

    Granted it's years since I had it from a can, so must try it again.

    Nothing beats tap for me tbh and the two pint pour is a must, trust me I've had pints of Guinness that was just chucked into a glass from tap and it was a waste of time and more importantly money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Draft is a relatively new thing.

    Yeah drank by lads who think they're big Guinness drinkers. When really they don't even like Stout. Diageo got around that anyway :) pump it full of nitrogen and make it nice and cold. "Like cream" / "nectar" etc haha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    I like a pint of leann foilin myself.
    It's a tastey sup.

    Unfortunately nowhere near me has it at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 397 ✭✭Mike Oxlong


    I like a pint of leann foilin myself.
    It's a tastey sup.

    Unfortunately nowhere near me has it at the moment.

    Thats a brilliant drop... but same issue here, nobody has it on tap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    I like a pint of leann foilin myself.
    It's a tastey sup.

    Unfortunately nowhere near me has it at the moment.

    Yeah that's my favourite Irish Stout. 4 for 10 in Obriens beside me.

    Will always grab it when I see it on tap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,490 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Isn't stout and any decent beers supposed to be served room temperature?:confused:

    If you want it cold you probably actually don't like the taste.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Isn't stout and any decent beers supposed to be served room temperature?:confused:

    If you want it cold you probably actually don't like the taste.

    Did a bit of reading on it before.
    Not room temp, but actually cellar temp, a bit warmer than chilled.

    Most cask ales in the UK will be served at cellar temp.

    I dont think I'd like a room temp pint to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Isn't stout and any decent beers supposed to be served room temperature?:confused:

    If you want it cold you probably actually don't like the taste.

    That works well for those pissy American beers like Budweiser, Corrs Light and Miller.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Isn't stout and any decent beers supposed to be served room temperature?:confused:

    If you want it cold you probably actually don't like the taste.

    Most people just don't like the taste. Its funny hearing them talk about a bottle of Guinness the way they do. That's how Guinness tastes, you don't like it, that's fine, we have nitro Guinness for that. And then they'll harp on about pint of plains being your only man :) I'm sure Flann enjoyed an ol bottle of stout. Was he even drinking nitro at the time ha?


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stout needs to be chilled, not freezing as it is in many places but definitely cooled. Room temp Guinness is awful.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Most people just don't like the taste. Its funny hearing them talk about a bottle of Guinness the way they do. That's how Guinness tastes, you don't like it, that's fine, we have nitro Guinness for that. And then they'll harp on about pint of plains being your only man :) I'm sure Flann enjoyed an ol bottle of stout. Was he even drinking nitro at the time ha?

    To me , a pint of plain is Porterhouse Plain , savage pint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Stout needs to be chilled, not freezing as it is in many places but definitely cooled. Room temp Guinness is awful.

    Nah I like the taste of Stout, so I have my hot poker at the ready for a proper pint of plain.

    Kids these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


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    Cheers everyone especially Jayzeus and Mr. Nox....:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,436 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Truckermal wrote: »
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    Cheers everyone especially Jayzeus and Mr. Nox....:D:D

    How did you get your pint to balance sideways ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    How did you get your pint to balance sideways ?

    You have to be years at it....:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,595 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Stout needs to be chilled, not freezing as it is in many places but definitely cooled. Room temp Guinness is awful.
    That's only good for stuff with no flavour, like Guinness. You can't have a quality stout served cold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,434 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    That's only good for stuff with no flavour, like Guinness. You can't have a quality stout served cold.

    Stout snobbery eh? I bet you put your red wine on the radiator and all.

    You absolutely can have quality stouts served colder than room temp, I've had some beautiful ones


  • Administrators Posts: 55,022 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Pints of it are lovely.

    The bottles of it are lovely.

    It's nice chilled (but not really cold like lager).

    Anyone who thinks you need to drink stout at room temperature should go take their head for a shite.

    Stout hipsters might be more annoying than beer hipsters. "Ooh, look at me, I prefer this stout brewed in ballygobackwards that's strained through a farmers sock over your mass-produced Guinness muck, you can really taste the turf, and it's best drank like a cup of tea". Spare us all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Stout needs to be chilled, not freezing as it is in many places but definitely cooled. Room temp Guinness is awful.

    Hard to beat a bottle off the shelf, a rail dusty wan from the back.

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,595 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    That's only good for stuff with no flavour, like Guinness. You can't have a quality stout served cold.

    Stout snobbery eh? I bet you put your red wine on the radiator and all.

    You absolutely can have quality stouts served colder than room temp, I've had some beautiful ones
    There's a difference between cold and colder than room temp. Stout straight from a fridge isn't a patch on one not drank that way. And don't worry your little head I don't drink red wine.


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