Brexit discussion thread VIII (Please read OP before posting)

Itssoeasy · 22-03-2019 12:13AM

Theresa May talking I'm assuming live on BBC five live. She's basically setting out what happened earlier.

jasper100 · 22-03-2019 12:14AM

She opens banging on about legally binding clarifications on the backstop.

Has not changed her tune one bit on holding her vote next week and it being a success.

One track mind.

My deal.

My deal.

My deal.

McMurphy · 22-03-2019 12:15AM

Thought May was about to cry just now. She took a gulp of water and recovered slightly.

road_high · 22-03-2019 12:15AM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I know sure but you'd think with potentially a terrible situation for the north as an entity would sharpen the focus ?

No. As long as you can get one up on “them uns “ that’s all that matters!
Such is the infantile state of NI. It’s not a real economy in any normal sense so economic sanity is way down the priority list

Itssoeasy · 22-03-2019 12:15AM

jasper100 wrote: »

She opens banging on about legally binding clarifications on the backstop.

Has not changed her tune one bit on holding her vote next week and it being a success.

One track mind.

My deal.

My deal.

My deal.

Did she ? BBC five live cut in as she was speaking so didn't catch the very start.

wirelessdude01 · 22-03-2019 12:15AM

What day will she gone next week? Will she actually make it to MV3?

Headshot · 22-03-2019 12:17AM

God I cant stand May's press conferences. It's like you can just record her first one and just play it at every conference going forward.

It's the same ****e just different day

Shelga · 22-03-2019 12:17AM

I’ve moved from the headbangers in NI to the headbanger in Brussels who is currently speaking.

Sorry for my short posts, mods, it’s all just moving so quickly though!

Absolutely deranged, all of them.

MikeSoys · 22-03-2019 12:18AM

what is she writing...whos she is allowing to ask a question?

road_high · 22-03-2019 12:19AM

Headshot wrote: »

God I cant stand May's press conferences. It's like you can just record her first one and just play it at every conference going forward.

It's the same ****e just different day

And always same scripted questions from Laura et al

prawnsambo · 22-03-2019 12:19AM

Shelga wrote: »

I thought she was a transgender woman?

Anyway, some crazy in a check shirt saying “if we have to, we go WTO”- sweet god, I do not want a united Ireland, I do not want to attempt to share a government with these people. The north is a mess and the best thing we can do is steer clear of it.

Ah they're not that bad. The BBC probably had weeks to round up some nutters for the show. And they work really hard at getting their quota. They've even been recycling them.

jasper100 · 22-03-2019 12:19AM

She is finally admitting they will have to put forward a new plan if there is no success for her deal next week. Accepting there is another way forward other than her deal or crash out.

gooch2k9 · 22-03-2019 12:20AM

A bit suspect she is asking specific journalists to ask her questions...

Shelga · 22-03-2019 12:20AM

Headshot wrote: »

God I cant stand May's press conferences. It's like you can just record her first one and just play it at every conference going forward.

It's the same ****e just different day

I agree with you, I can’t watch these anymore, it’s painful and humiliating for the UK. She just drones over and over and over and over about how “my deal is the best deal for the UK”, and throws in several utterances of “let me be quite clear”, when she’s been anything but.

The EU has just made a crucial decision for her. She had absolutely zero power anymore. This is an abysmal failure on every imaginable level.

MikeSoys · 22-03-2019 12:21AM

gooch2k9 wrote: »

A bit suspect she is asking specific journalists to ask her questions...

and she crossing the names off a list ...

Eod100 · 22-03-2019 12:21AM

How soon will Scotland have an independence referendum?!

Spanish Eyes · 22-03-2019 12:22AM

May made her bed. But she is banging a disastrous drum. Hope she is taking some propranolol to get her through this. That is just a drug to slow the heartrate and anxiety down. Used by lots of people especially those in the public eye/drama/opera etc.

I do not feel one bit sorry for her at all. But I do admire her tenacity. That is all.

She is talking rubbish at the press conference. Sorry but sounds rattled. She is playing to the ERG and nothing else really IMO. The only answer to this is to revoke A50 or get her deal through.

Will of the people ****e again.

theguzman · 22-03-2019 12:22AM

I have been saying it for a long time but a crash out is inevitable and they want this but also want to blame the EU for the short term disruption it will cause. No Deal here we come. A hard Brexit will be the only acceptable outcome. Arlene Foster has delivered for the DUP and the Brexiteers won the referendum and anything else other than a hard Brexit would be ant-democratic.

dresden8 · 22-03-2019 12:22AM

jasper100 wrote: »

She is finally admitting they will have to put forward a new plan if there is no success for her deal next week. Accepting there is another way forward other than her deal or crash out.

I remember when the EU said "This is the deal, no changes"

Now they have invited her to come back with something new.

Err....hello? Have they never met the Brits?

road_high · 22-03-2019 12:23AM

gooch2k9 wrote: »

A bit suspect she is asking specific journalists to ask her questions...

It’s pre arranged who and what will be asked.

MikeSoys · 22-03-2019 12:24AM

GBP holding..

BobbyBobberson · 22-03-2019 12:25AM

road_high wrote: »

It’s pre arranged who and what will be asked.

Exactly, and if the journo goes rogue on a question then they wont get to ask another one for a long long time.

Itssoeasy · 22-03-2019 12:26AM

road_high wrote: »

No. As long as you can get one up on “them uns “ that’s all that matters!
Such is the infantile state of NI. It’s not a real economy in any normal sense so economic sanity is way down the priority list

It's bloody bonkers though. I mean I know people complain about our lot in the south, but we aren't as bad as the crowd up north.

MrMusician18 · 22-03-2019 12:26AM

theguzman wrote: »

I have been saying it for a long time but a crash out is inevitable and they want this but also want to blame the EU for the short term disruption it will cause. No Deal here we come. A hard Brexit will be the only acceptable outcome. Arlene Foster has delivered for the DUP and the Brexiteers won the referendum and anything else other than a hard Brexit would be ant-democratic.

What is this disruption you talk of. You've mentioned pain before too. Can you define clearly what you mean by this.

trashcan · 22-03-2019 12:26AM

prawnsambo wrote: »

You're a bit late to the party. He actually trended on Twitter because of it under the hashtag #HannanIrishHistory . People tweeting things like the ambulance siren was invented in Nenagh and other witticisms. It got to the news reports it was so viral.

My favourite one was how Michael Collins faked his own death in an insurance scam and fled to the US, where he later piloted the Apollo mission to the moon, and his son Phil subsequently wrote the song "In the Air Tonight" as a tribute to him. Genius

PropJoe10 · 22-03-2019 12:26AM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

May made her bed. But she is banging a disastrous drum. Hope she is taking some propranolol to get her through this. That is just a drug to slow the heartrate and anxiety down. Used by lots of people especially those in the public eye/drama/opera etc.

I do not feel one bit sorry for her at all. But I do admire her tenacity. That is all.

She is talking rubbish at the press conference. Sorry but sounds rattled. She is playing to the ERG and nothing else really IMO. The only answer to this is to revoke A50 or get her deal through.

Will of the people ****e again.

That's been her mistake from day 1. If she'd spent less time pandering to the ERG and the DUP and more time trying to reach out across parliament with indicative votes and taking other points on board to try to build a deal that could command a majority in the HoC, she probably wouldn't be in this mess. I don't have an ounce of sympathy for her.

Mr.Nice Guy · 22-03-2019 12:26AM

May must surely know her MV3 deal has next to no chance of getting through given that the best chance it had was the threat of a No Deal crash out on March 29th - which has now been taken out of the equation for the time being.

She therefore has to go through the indignity of looking like a laughing stock all over again. Perhaps it will be defeated by an even bigger margin than the first time as a way for all sides to tell her to jog on.

Is it possible she tries to pull the vote from happening next week and postpones it to just before April 12th? I note the text says:

If the Withdrawal Agreement is not approved by the House of Commons next week, the European Council agrees to an extension until 12 April 2019 and expects the United Kingdom to indicate a way forward before this date for consideration by the European Council.

So if she were to pull the vote next week then the extension to the 12th happens anyway, right?

Honestly I think she'd be mad to try getting it through next week as she'll likely face a drubbing. Maybe she's immune to the scorn and contempt at this stage?

Spanish Eyes · 22-03-2019 12:27AM

theguzman wrote: »

I have been saying it for a long time but a crash out is inevitable and they want this but also want to blame the EU for the short term disruption it will cause. No Deal here we come. A hard Brexit will be the only acceptable outcome. Arlene Foster has delivered for the DUP and the Brexiteers won the referendum and anything else other than a hard Brexit would be ant-democratic.

There will be no crash out at all. No one wants or needs that apart from a few Farage/R Mogg/Francois supporters.

We really do have to give a voice to those other than that cohort. Things change, there is much more information out there for the implications of Hard Brexit today than there was back in 2016, which was a kick in the teeth to the powers that be, without any explanation as to what it would mean for those other than those who will benefit.

Infini · 22-03-2019 12:27AM

MikeSoys wrote: »

GBP holding..

There's unlikely to be any major shifts unless a no deal scenario emerges and right now the EU has basically strung this whole thing out by setting out a clear plan on what Britain must do to avoid a no deal. If they crash its by choice now.

Spanish Eyes · 22-03-2019 12:29AM

BobbyBobberson wrote: »

Exactly, and if the journo goes rogue on a question then they wont get to ask another one for a long long time.

Sounds Trumpesque to me! Wonder why I am surprised though....

Brexit discussion thread VIII (Please read OP before posting)

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