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  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wonderstruck


    Cool thanks - so if it’s expemption and exclusion clauses with a customer just go right to the unfair terms directive? And if business to business possibly George Mitchell and you’d bring in test for negligence etc here like pretty much just case law?

    Ugh this is confusing

    Yeah for business you'd have some SOG 1893 stuff but the Unfair Terms directive even has stuff in the grey list which would cover a common law approach anyways (e.g. fundamental breach is there on the Grey list so you'd be as well to just point at that then go through the ins and outs of exclusion clauses for fundamental breach)

    Anyone have any contract predictions? #strawclutching


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 keelfe1s


    Does anyone know can we print off Sale of Goods Act 1893 from Irish Statute book ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭sbbyrne


    keelfe1s wrote: »
    Does anyone know can we print off Sale of Goods Act 1893 from Irish Statute book ?

    pretty sure you can't. I think it says it in the letter with the rules, if you have that handy maybe double check!


  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wonderstruck


    keelfe1s wrote: »
    Does anyone know can we print off Sale of Goods Act 1893 from Irish Statute book ?

    I think they're relatively strict on the legislation, i would contact the law society and check.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 gfettig


    In what form has the Anton Pillar come up in the past? Essay or Problem?

    Thanks :)

    last time was fall 2017 as an essay. "draconian and essentially unfair" quote from Columbia Pictures v Robinson. Discuss, with reference to case law, the principles governing applications for Anton Pillar Orders.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10 gfettig


    Breacnua wrote: »
    is an essay on SP in equity more or less the same in contract if asked ?
    send me ur email

    as an essay it tends to come up as 'discuss the defences to a claim for sp' or a discussion of a quote from CH Giles v Morris & asking how courts have dealt with sp for contracts for personal services.


  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭holliek


    Can someone explain the outcome of Vallee v Birchwood and King v DUbrey? My head is melted and can't figure the final decisions


  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    Injunctions
    Resulting trusts - presumption of advancement
    Charitable trusts cy pres
    Undue influence - rescission
    Dmc and re rose and rule in strong v bird
    Trustees

    Anything I should add ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 laurar2019


    has SP ever come up in contract law ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Yohnathan


    keelfe1s wrote: »
    Does anyone know can we print off Sale of Goods Act 1893 from Irish Statute book ?

    You cannot. It is to prevent people adding in pages or editing the legislation etc.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Amanda226


    Does penalty clauses ever come up in problem questions or is it usually as essay? Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 laurar2019


    what are the qs that arise from remdies in Contract law in general ? :) help a gal out x-0


  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭LawGirl3434


    laurar2019 wrote: »
    what are the qs that arise from remdies in Contract law in general ? :) help a gal out x-0

    This is stressing me too! I saw people saying an essay on specific performance but can’t see it in any of the papers back to 2015 and have like no notes on it! I feel damages is the only one I’ve seen come up - remoteness types etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wonderstruck


    This is stressing me too! I saw people saying an essay on specific performance but can’t see it in any of the papers back to 2015 and have like no notes on it! I feel damages is the only one I’ve seen come up - remoteness types etc

    SP as an essay came up in April 2014 (the essay was whem is it an appropriate remedy)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ErinLP44


    Equity- specific performance is predicted to come up on the paper seemingly. Does anyone have any recent cases on specific performance that are essential to include also I am getting very confused with he distinction between contracts for services and contracts of services. Anyone care to explain??


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Charles OCK


    ErinLP44 wrote: »
    Equity- specific performance is predicted to come up on the paper seemingly. Does anyone have any recent cases on specific performance that are essential to include also I am getting very confused with he distinction between contracts for services and contracts of services. Anyone care to explain??

    I dont have any recent cases other than the ones provided in my manual.

    Do you know if contracts requiring supervision fall under the provision of personal services or are they a separate concept?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ErinLP44


    this is what I am confused about

    according to my notes I would say that contracts requiring supervision come into this category
    mine say:

    contracts for service- are those that require constant supervision
    contracts of service - typical employment contracts (ie compelling someone to work for you if specific performance is granted)

    and both of these presumably fall under the title of personal services. Im just a bit confused about which cases fall under each category and how to distinguish between the two. for example - the co-op v argyll stores case that involved an obligation to trade- is this a contract FOR services or OF (ie would it be one requiring supervision?)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ErinLP44


    I dont have any recent cases other than the ones provided in my manual.

    Do you know if contracts requiring supervision fall under the provision of personal services or are they a separate concept?

    this is what I am confused about

    according to my notes I would say that contracts requiring supervision come into this category
    mine say:

    contracts for service- are those that require constant supervision
    contracts of service - typical employment contracts (ie compelling someone to work for you if specific performance is granted)

    and both of these presumably fall under the title of personal services. Im just a bit confused about which cases fall under each category and how to distinguish between the two. for example - the co-op v argyll stores case that involved an obligation to trade- is this a contract FOR services or OF (ie would it be one requiring supervision?)


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭nimcdona


    for equity and charitable trusts, does anyone know if section 3 of the charities act 2009 has fully come into effect?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 marc24


    nimcdona wrote: »
    for equity and charitable trusts, does anyone know if section 3 of the charities act 2009 has fully come into effect?

    Yes it came into effect in Oct 2014


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Supreme!Fox


    Re EU Law - In Competition Law, is there a difference between collective/joint dominance under Art 102 and concerted practices under Art 101?


  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭holliek


    marc24 wrote: »
    Yes it came into effect in Oct 2014

    The griffith sample answer to 2015 Oct q3 says it still hadn't come into effect yet..


  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wonderstruck


    holliek wrote: »
    The griffith sample answer to 2015 Oct q3 says it still hadn't come into effect yet..

    Those prep colleges.... I got the receipts bro

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2014/si/457/made/en/print


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭sbbyrne


    Those prep colleges.... I got the receipts bro

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2014/si/457/made/en/print
    holliek wrote: »
    The griffith sample answer to 2015 Oct q3 says it still hadn't come into effect yet..

    tbh i think the sample answers are often copy and paste jobs, you'd see some essay questions referring to names as if in a problem question, so might be just a case of it being from an earlier question :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Wonderstruck


    sbbyrne wrote: »
    tbh i think the sample answers are often copy and paste jobs, you'd see some essay questions referring to names as if in a problem question, so might be just a case of it being from an earlier question :)

    Yeah I'd say so too! ;) i hope it comes up now for you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Smiley283


    ErinLP44 wrote: »
    this is what I am confused about

    according to my notes I would say that contracts requiring supervision come into this category
    mine say:

    contracts for service- are those that require constant supervision
    contracts of service - typical employment contracts (ie compelling someone to work for you if specific performance is granted)

    and both of these presumably fall under the title of personal services. Im just a bit confused about which cases fall under each category and how to distinguish between the two. for example - the co-op v argyll stores case that involved an obligation to trade- is this a contract FOR services or OF (ie would it be one requiring supervision?)

    My Griffith manual says they're two different concepts.

    The cases that they have laid out in the section for contracts requiring supervision are

    Posner v scott-lewis
    Cooperative insurance society v Argyll stores
    Wanze properties


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭nimcdona


    marc24 wrote: »
    Yes it came into effect in Oct 2014

    Thank you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭nimcdona


    holliek wrote: »
    The griffith sample answer to 2015 Oct q3 says it still hadn't come into effect yet..

    I saw that too, thats what confused me


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭sapphire309


    The topic of Sources of EU Law - is that just regulations, directives and decisions?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭sbbyrne


    I can't seem to get satisfaction into my head, i feel like i'm going in circles with it :(:( anyone have any tips how to simplify it? At this stage i'm desperate


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