Madeleine McCann

Plumbthedepths · 19-03-2019 12:16PM

SusieBlue wrote:

So they "snapped" and hired a hitman to come and murder their 3yr old on holidays? Really?

In the absence of evidence as to what happened, it's reasonable to suggest several possibilities.

splinter65 · 19-03-2019 12:18PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

Teddy Daniels wrote: »

I would like a link for the supporters of the parents

It’s 900 paces door to door as far as I’m concerned which is a walked half a mile
Liklnk if you disbelieve

So once again every 1:2 hour someone walked a mile to check on the kids?

SusieBlue · 19-03-2019 12:22PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

In the absence of evidence as to what happened, it's reasonable to suggest several possibilities.

You're really clutching at straws here.
I'd find it more believable that Madeleine got abducted by aliens than that her parents decided they'd had enough & hired some Portuguese underworld criminal to take out a hit on their toddler.

I don't believe that Kate & Gerry are responsible but I do see why some people might believe they are.

Suggesting that they hired a hitman is just wild speculation with absolutely no basis.

It seems some people actually don't care what happened to Madeleine, so long as her parents get blamed and implicated they aren't bothered.

Plumbthedepths · 19-03-2019 12:24PM

SusieBlue wrote:

You're really clutching at straws here. I'd find it more believable that Madeleine got abducted by aliens than that her parents decided they'd had enough & hired some Portuguese underworld criminal to take out a hit on their toddler.

No as there is no evidence to any scenario, any probability exists

SusieBlue wrote:

I don't believe that Kate & Gerry are responsible but I do see why some people might believe they are.

Your opinion

SusieBlue wrote:

Suggesting that they hired a hitman is just wild speculation with absolutely no basis.

Not my suggestion

SusieBlue wrote:

It seems some people actually don't care what happened to Madeleine, so long as her parents get blamed for it they aren't bothered.

Again your opinion.

splinter65 · 19-03-2019 12:26PM

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Plumbthedepths wrote: »

But we have been told they weren't alone they were being checked every half hour. I believe Splinter 65 made this claim.

The neighbors claim fits your scenario. So you run with it. This is what conspiracy theorists like you do. They concoct a scenario and then they carefully pick the evidence that suits them and ignore the evidence that doesn’t. The neighbor said the child cried for an hour. No one else heard it. But it must be true because plumbthedepths approves.

pc7 · 19-03-2019 12:27PM

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Mod Note

The latest documentary is making this thread extremely busy, can we just remind posters to remember the charter. No attacking other posters, report anything not up to standard. This thread is extremely busy at the minute, so please help us out.

thanks.

SusieBlue · 19-03-2019 12:28PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

No as there is no evidence to any scenario, any probability exists

Your opinion

Not my suggestion

Again your opinion.

I have absolutely no intention of derailing this thread by engaging in a multiquote battle with you, its tedious for others to read and adds nothing to the discussion.

It hasn't gone unnoticed that you "forgot" to quote over half my post, either.

You are absolutely right that any scenario is likely to exist, so please enlighten us, as to how, when, and why Kate & Gerry McCann decided to take out a hit on their 3yr old and have her murdered by organised criminals while on holidays.
You are the one saying its a legitimate line of discussion and reasoning so I'm sure you have an explanation for it all at the ready.
I'm all ears.

RacoonQueen · 19-03-2019 12:30PM

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splinter65 wrote: »

So once again every 1:2 hour someone walked a mile to check on the kids?

Where does this 'mile' keep getting pulled out of?

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

No as there is no evidence to any scenario, any probability exists

How often is there ever 'evidence' of an abduction though? Even when adults disappear, who would (presumably) be much harder to abduct than a small child there is usually little to no evidence as to what happened to them.

splinter65 · 19-03-2019 12:32PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Where does this 'mile' keep getting pulled out of?

How often is there every 'evidence' of an abduction though? Even when adults disappear, who would (presumably) be much harder to abduct than a small child there is usually little to no evidence as to what happened to them.

If they were a 1/2 mile from the kids as some are suggesting then it was a 1/2 mile there and a half mile back to the table. 2 half miles makes 1 mile. This is how ludicrous the people who condemn the McCanns get. It’s embarresing.

limnam · 19-03-2019 12:36PM

Trekker09 wrote: »

Less? What was her alcohol intake?

5 bottles of wine between 7-9 people, not quite Shane McGowan quantities now is it?

A few years ago I worked with an organization that that involved being on the front line of emergencies, outbreaks, war zones earth quakes landslides etc. What struck me most was the reaction and behaviour of people who were in shock, especially the minutes after an event.

How would you react in that situation?

She had at least half a bottle between 8-30

So yes, less.

limnam · 19-03-2019 12:38PM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Did she jump straight to abduction? That's very odd if she did.

She screamed "they've taken her" while running leaving two kids on thier own

Very bizarre statement to make

splinter65 · 19-03-2019 12:39PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

I have asked here as I have many times for the people who condemn the McCanns to tell us all what they think happened Maddie if she wasn’t taken by an abductor or wandered off.
As ever there is a deafening silence.
This is partly because they don’t really give a **** about what happened her.
They’re only interest is in persecuting the parents, probably to compensate for their own, I suspect, many many inadequacies.
It’s also because once they start to describe a scenario where the tapas 9 killed her, it quickly disintegrates into a farce involving dead dogs and vanishing freezers and volcanos and magic invisibility cloaks. But go ahead with your vindictive sniping.

RacoonQueen · 19-03-2019 12:39PM

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splinter65 wrote: »

If they were a 1/2 mile from the kids as some are suggesting then it was a 1/2 mile there and a half mile back to the table. 2 half miles makes 1 mile. This is how ludicrous the people who condemn the McCanns get. It’s embarresing.

The distance of half a mile has been disputed and shown to be way over the actual distance numerous times in this thread. Yet you continue to spew out this distance.

splinter65 · 19-03-2019 12:41PM

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limnam wrote: »

She screamed "they've taken her" while running leaving two kids on thier own

Very bizarre statement to make

I thought earlier one of you said “the ****ing bastards have taken her” ? Are you not going with that version now?

splinter65 · 19-03-2019 12:43PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

RacoonQueen wrote: »

The distance of half a mile has been disputed and shown to be way over the actual distance numerous times in this thread. Yet you continue to spew out this distance.

I’m not claiming the 1/2 mile. I’m the only one who is properly calling out the person who claimed the 1/2 mile. The poster who claimed it has yet to come back and confirm that they are alleging that the round trip from the table to the bedroom was 1 mile. Then we can all laugh at him.

limnam · 19-03-2019 12:47PM

I'd love to know why Gerry wouldn't comment on if he knew or had met Murat prior to the events.

It seems like such a basic innocent question and to choose to not comment seems really odd.

Plumbthedepths · 19-03-2019 01:05PM

SusieBlue wrote:

It hasn't gone unnoticed that you "forgot" to quote over half my post, either.

I didn't forget as I had no interest is addressing a suggestion of a hitman

Silane · 19-03-2019 01:06PM

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limnam wrote: »

I'd love to know why Gerry wouldn't comment on if he knew or had met Murat prior to the events.

It seems like such a basic innocent question and to choose to not comment seems really odd.

I'm suspicious of the McCanns myself, but in Gerry's defense talking to the police even if you are completely innocent is generally not a good idea.

This video is long, but its a worth watching to understand why it's a bad idea.

Unless the answer to the question was likely to aid in finding my child I'd be unlikely to offer any information to the police without representation present.

Plumbthedepths · 19-03-2019 01:15PM

RacoonQueen wrote:

How often is there ever 'evidence' of an abduction though? Even when adults disappear, who would (presumably) be much harder to abduct than a small child there is usually little to no evidence as to what happened to them.

There is no evidence of anything tbh.

SusieBlue · 19-03-2019 01:15PM

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Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I didn't forget as I had no interest is addressing a suggestion of a hitman

Yeah, you're just saying its a legitimate, reasonable probability that her parents took out a hit on her. Got it.

Thepoet85 · 19-03-2019 01:19PM

A hitman to take out a three year old girl? That's enough internet for me for today.

Plumbthedepths · 19-03-2019 01:21PM

SusieBlue wrote:

Yeah, you're just saying its a legitimate, reasonable probability that her parents took out a hit on her. Got it.

But I didn't say it was legit hence why I did not address that part of your comment.

SusieBlue · 19-03-2019 01:23PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

But I didn't say it was legit hence why I did not address that part of your comment.

You did say it was a reasonable possibility, as per below.

SusieBlue wrote: »

So they "snapped" and hired a hitman to come and murder their 3yr old on holidays? Really?

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

In the absence of evidence as to what happened, it's reasonable to suggest several possibilities.

Mitch Connor · 19-03-2019 01:25PM

splinter65 wrote: »

I have asked here as I have many times for the people who condemn the McCanns to tell us all what they think happened Maddie if she wasn’t taken by an abductor or wandered off.
As ever there is a deafening silence.
This is partly because they don’t really give a **** about what happened her.
They’re only interest is in persecuting the parents, probably to compensate for their own, I suspect, many many inadequacies.
It’s also because once they start to describe a scenario where the tapas 9 killed her, it quickly disintegrates into a farce involving dead dogs and vanishing freezers and volcanos and magic invisibility cloaks. But go ahead with your vindictive sniping.

I think someone they know abducted her and killed her. Someone the Tapas 9 know, but wasn't at that meal.

The Peado that they knew, spoke to and visited, who lived near the resort, for instance. Or the peado who has a new driveway, living near by whom the McCanns have also spoken to. Or the two US government fellas linked to being peados and to have been visiting one of the mentioned peado friends living near the resort on the nights in question.

I reckon they are who killed Maddie, I reckon they are who covered it up, and I reckon the McCanns know exactly what happened.

Butson · 19-03-2019 01:27PM

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Has the Irish man, Martin Smith or any of his family, done any media interviews here? Would love to hear more from them on their sighting.

Was it him that was sitting at home, watching the news and seeing Gerry walk off the plane in the UK holding one of the twins?

chicorytip · 19-03-2019 01:40PM

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B_ecke_r wrote:

my theory, like many is she was sedated and woke up groggy looking for parents, hit her head and died.

B_ecke_r wrote:

fact the twins stayed asleep through all the commotion and Kate seemed very concerned with their breathing (and didn't allow them to be drug tested later) is a bit odd no?

Were there any sedatives of the type that would induce sleep for a child discovered in the apartment during the investigation? I don't recall any mention of there being so.

SusieBlue · 19-03-2019 01:42PM

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chicorytip wrote: »

Were there any sedatives of the type that would induce sleep for a child discovered in the apartment during the investigation? I don't recall any mention of there being so.

Just calpol, which isn't a sedative.

There has been no evidence that they "sedated" any of their children to date.
If they bought any locally, there would be a record of this at the local pharmacy.
Unless we're suggesting the chemist was in on the cover up too.

Guy:Incognito · 19-03-2019 01:46PM

oceanman wrote: »

its really stretching creditably to suggest that the parents were some way involved in the murder of their own child...think about it, to commit murder, destroy all the evidence , dispose of a body so well that to this day not a trace of it has ever been found, and do all that without being seen by anyone in a busy holiday resort!....it just dosent add up.

But the alternative is that some stranger did the very same thing and that's 100% believable?

On Kate's reaction. Personally , if I came back and saw one of the kids missing my first reaction would be to search the whole apartment, then the pool (though that should probably come first but closest probably occurs first when you're assuming they just woke up and walked somewhere). Then the complex . After that maybe I'd be thinking abduction

iamwhoiam · 19-03-2019 01:49PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

SusieBlue wrote: »

Just calpol, which isn't a sedative.

There has been no evidence that they "sedated" any of their children to date.
If they bought any locally, there would be a record of this at the local pharmacy.
Unless we're suggesting the chemist was in on the cover up too.

Just being pedantic and not suggesting it was so but you can buy Phenergan over the counter . I doubt Pharmacys have records of OTC meds handed out

SusieBlue · 19-03-2019 01:54PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

But the alternative is that some stranger did the very same thing and that's 100% believable?

On Kate's reaction. Personally , if I came back and saw one of the kids missing my first reaction would be to search the whole apartment, then the pool (though that should probably come first but closest probably occurs first when you're assuming they just woke up and walked somewhere). Then the complex . After that maybe I'd be thinking abduction

The timeline of the parents doing it just doesn't make sense, it doesn't fit in whatsoever.
The logistics are almost impossible and would involve Kate & Gerry being the most calculated criminal masterminds to execute it all so flawlessly, destroy all evidence, and get away with it.

I have yet to see one reasonable timeline of events where sometime after 6pm, Madeleine dies (accidentally or otherwise) and Kate & Gerry come up with a plan, make a pact, destroy all evidence, hide the body, and then head off to dinner just after 8pm acting normally.
And do this so well they weren't seen by anyone and didn't incriminate themselves.

Madeleine McCann

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