Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

MFPM wrote: »

Firstly violent crime is part and parcel of society unfortunately, it is perpertrated by people of all genders, races and creeds, some of this crime gets reported much of it doesn't.

The case of the man who was attacked at the car wash is getting coverage because based on what is being reported it is in part a race related crime as indicated by expressions such as 'monkey' and 'go back to where you came from'.

Is there any evidence that the young man who was brutally assaulted by the gang was done so becaue of the colour of his skin?
Thus your hypothesis that there is a media agenda against 'race' crime against white people (a laughable suggestion) rather falls falt on its face.

So a vicious attack perpetrated by a large gang of any colour on an individual, in an emerging pattern of large gangs of youths of any colour regularly running amok along public transport routes in the capital city is not newsworthy? Do you honestly believe if this was predominantly White gangs of this number and regularity of public disorder and thuggishness it wouldn't be in the news on the regular? Unless they were Travellers of course, they rarely get their ethnic status reported, instead euphemisms like "travelling gangs" is what is deemed acceptable for print.

Much of the discussion on the case in Ashbourne here has nothing to do with the act or the injuries of the young man (beyond token faux outrage) the essence of the discussion is on the racial profile of the perpertrators, many posters exploiting it to vomit their prejudicial attitude to the African community in Ireland.

Where are the large gangs of majority Chinese, or Lithuanian, or Polish(largest non native Irish population) lads and lasses causing trouble? Unless you can prove otherwise and I'm all ears, this particular trend is undeniably more an issue within the African community in Ireland.

Cordell wrote: »

No, there is no poverty that can explain their behavior, not in Ireland anyway. Youths acting up and joining gangs, why, because they're so poor that they need to buy their tracksuits from penneys rather than nike?

It's a cultural influence. The second generation within "multicultural" societies know damned well that while they may be Irish/British/French/German on their passport, they're not quite Irish/British/French/German in reality. Their parents at least know they're Ghanian, or Nigerian. Ask any of those kids and I guarantee they'll tell you they are looked at differently, both subtly and overtly because they've built in sunblock. From the right on handwringers that are not too far removed from sympathy for "Black babies", with attendant condescension and focus on colour, to full on "go back to the jungle" types. Yep, it's racism, but that's a near given in this idiotic notion of modern "multiculturalism". No amount of holding hands and the best of intentions will change that, certainly not the way it's been tried elsewhere and we have many decades of other nation's experiences there.

So if you feel you don't quite fit in, you will quite understandably look to other expressions of that identity, one that fits your experiences more. In this case the whole rap/gang/outsider "Black" culture thing. Never mind that a big gang of you feels empowering and not to be fcuked with, never mind an element of payback for every time you walked into a shop and knew a few were thinking "nigger" under their breath, or not so under their breath. In their place I'd be pretty damned sure I'd do exactly the same at their age. In the UK many young men in their Muslim community look to their sense of shared identity. In ex colonies like the US, you see this with damned near every ethnic group that isn't the ruling caste. Italians, Jews, African, Hispanic and indeed Irish. This upcoming weekend a good example of the latter.