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Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

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    #5882
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    dav3 wrote: »
    You've imagined me calling you a racist. It's not the first time you've imagined this and not only from myself. It's good to see you still have your "I'm not a racist" quotes on speed dial though.

    There's a search function that's very easy to use, even for alt-right Nazi knuckle-draggers like myself.
    dav3 wrote: »
    When I refer to "you lads", I'm referring to the delusional ramblings of a tiny number of individuals who offer nothing positive to Irish society or Irish people. An ever decreasing group of people demanding that everyone stops what they're doing to listen to their rants and diatribe on a daily basis.

    There is a reason why you lads are never listened to. When you start taking crime seriously, all crime regardless of the background of the perpetrators, people will start taking you seriously.

    The fact you quote me and use the phrase ''you lads'' to obviously include me means you're lumping me in with those mentioned above. So I offer nothing positive to society? How could you possibly know that? I'll let you on a few little secrets though.

    - I voted YES for same sex marriage
    - I voted to repeal the 8th amendment
    - I work within the prison system keeping society's worst away from the decent people. As far as your ''taking crime seriously'' angle goes, I'm literally doing it.
    - Oh and I adopted two rescue kittens this year.

    It's a nice veiled personal attack you've tried but unfortunately for you it's not true. I'd also imagine you're probably seething that I'm on the same side as you in both referenda because it strips you of your ammo. I'd wager that you're probably emasculated somewhat that I work a good macho job because you couldn't dream of doing it yourself all the while being a sensitive little kitty cat lover. I've no problem handling pussies dav3, wonder would you have issues in that department yourself.


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    #5883
    Zorya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


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    #5884
    completedit
    Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Tbh I think it is worse that theee guys are not native Irish. When they are native Irish(or part of the general Irish consciousness) they are us, they're part of the national consciousness, these kids exist outside of our culture. I don't know why but that just makes it more unsettling in my opinion


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    #5885
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,107 ✭✭✭malinheader


    completedit wrote: »
    Tbh I think it is worse that theee guys are not native Irish. When they are native Irish(or part of the general Irish consciousness) they are us, they're part of the national consciousness, these kids exist outside of our culture. I don't know why but that just makes it more unsettling in my opinion

    Welcome to the new Ireland. And believe me its nothing to what it will be soon.
    Better say nothing incase it insults any of our new citizens.


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    #5886
    SporadicMan
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭SporadicMan


    malinheader wrote: »
    Welcome to the new Ireland. And believe me its nothing to what it will be soon.
    Better say nothing incase it insults any of our new citizens.

    It's interesting at the same time though, because I think that in the short term it would lead to a strong sense of unity between Irish folk.

    I certainly have been impacted on a personal level anyway. I have a much stronger internal sense of care for other Irish people now.


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    #5887
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,107 ✭✭✭malinheader


    SporadicMan wrote: »
    It's interesting at the same time though, because I think that in the short term it would lead to a strong sense of unity between Irish folk.

    I certainly have been impacted on a personal level anyway. I have a much stronger internal sense of care for other Irish people now.

    It's a pity our own government doesn't hold the same level of care for its own citizens as some of us would like.


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    #5888
    ArchXStanton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    malinheader wrote: »
    It's a pity our own government doesn't hold the same level of care for its own citizens as some of us would like.

    We really need to adopt an Australian way of doing things, no nonsense, just deport

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoKX82kjpfs


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    #5889
    SporadicMan
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭SporadicMan


    malinheader wrote: »
    It's a pity our own government doesn't hold the same level of care for its own citizens as some of us would like.

    Agreed.

    I read someone say that it feels like European countries were lost in a poker game and that really felt like a spot on assessment to me. It feels like we're simply the lowest priority in our own countries.


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    #5890
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    SporadicMan wrote: »
    malinheader wrote: »
    It's a pity our own government doesn't hold the same level of care for its own citizens as some of us would like.

    Agreed.

    I read someone say that it feels like European countries were lost in a poker game and that really felt like a spot on assessment to me. It feels like we're simply the lowest priority in our own countries.

    This is hilarious.

    #feelinsovetfacts


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    #5891
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users Posts: 12,517 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Reading on the lad's Mother's Facebook page that he is home and on the mend thank God. But I'm sure the mental scars will be hard to get over.
    According to the mother's Facebook page there was one or two token white boys obviously wannabe gangsters one Irish and one Eastern European.


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    #5892
    SporadicMan
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭SporadicMan


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    This is hilarious.

    #feelinsovetfacts

    I'll let the residents of these immigrant safe haven towns know that you found my post funny. :pac:

    I'll also let the homeless Irish people know. Weird how you literally never see a foreigner who's homeless, isn't it?


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    #5893
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    SporadicMan wrote: »
    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    This is hilarious.

    #feelinsovetfacts

    I'll let the residents of these immigrant safe haven towns know that you found my post funny. :pac:
    Go ahead. Your telling me the
    The Irish are the lowest priority in Ireland. I am going to laugh each time.


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    #5894
    SporadicMan
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭SporadicMan


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Go ahead. Your telling me the
    The Irish are the lowest priority in Ireland. I am going to laugh each time.

    Deliveroo drivers being attacked by Irish kids = National news for days, cries of xenophobia and racism

    Ethnic African gangs assault people in North Co. Dublin every week for over a year = **** all in the media

    Funny how that works.


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    #5895
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    SporadicMan wrote: »
    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Go ahead. Your telling me the
    The Irish are the lowest priority in Ireland. I am going to laugh each time.

    Deliveroo drivers being attacked by Irish kids = National news for days, cries of xenophobia and racism

    Ethnic African gangs assault people in North Co. Dublin every week for over a year = **** all in the media

    Funny how that works.
    Crime happens. Not the Irish being the lowest priority. Crime happens.

    Crime happens everywhere in this country from theft to financial. From Cork to Donegal.


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    #5896
    ArchXStanton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    SporadicMan wrote: »
    Agreed.

    I read someone say that it feels like European countries were lost in a poker game and that really felt like a spot on assessment to me. It feels like we're simply the lowest priority in our own countries.

    Probably down to our EU overlords making these decisions miles away from here


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    #5897
    SporadicMan
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭SporadicMan


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Crime happens. Not the Irish being the lowest priority. Crime happens.

    Crime happens everywhere in this country from theft to financial. From Cork to Donegal.

    How do you explain the huge discrepancy in how they're reported? Immigrant victims = Huge deal. Why?


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    #5898
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    SporadicMan wrote: »
    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Crime happens. Not the Irish being the lowest priority. Crime happens.

    Crime happens everywhere in this country from theft to financial. From Cork to Donegal.

    How do you explain the huge discrepancy in how they're reported? Immigrant victims = Huge deal. Why?

    I'm not here to play twenty question with ya. Your claim the Irish seem to 'lowest priority' is false.

    It's important not build your world view on pure bollix.


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    #5899
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    SporadicMan wrote: »
    How do you explain the huge discrepancy in how they're reported? Immigrant victims = Huge deal. Why?


    The Deliveroo driver thing was in the City Centre, reported by many, eyewitnesses, quality recordings of the incident. It disrupted bus services, traffic, highly visible and there was aftermath.



    The other attacks by the gangs are on the outskirts, only snapchats as the evidence and all involved in the videos appear to be masked or covered up. They are also fairly coordinated and disperse quickly and very lose stories from eye-witnesses.


    So the difference in quality is down to the quality of what is available to report with.


    I should add, that there is not just one gang of youths out there, there are a few different ones.


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    #5900
    SporadicMan
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭SporadicMan


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    I'm not here to play twenty question with ya. Your claim the Irish seem to 'lowest priority' is false.

    It's important not build your world view on pure bollix.

    I had a feeling you'd avoid answering that question. All you can do is reply with abuse, you freeze up when you're actually asked to think about it.


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    #5901
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    SporadicMan wrote: »
    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    I'm not here to play twenty question with ya. Your claim the Irish seem to 'lowest priority' is false.

    It's important not build your world view on pure bollix.

    I had a feeling you'd avoid answering that question. All you can do is reply with abuse, you freeze up when you're actually asked to think about it.

    Nope, you brought the delivroo drivers out of nowhere. I've already said crime happens throughout the country.


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    #5902
    SporadicMan
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭SporadicMan


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Nope, you brought the delivroo drivers out of nowhere. I've already said crime happens throughout the country.

    "Out of nowhere"

    Or to provide additional context to what I was saying..


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    #5903
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    SporadicMan wrote: »
    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Nope, you brought the delivroo drivers out of nowhere. I've already said crime happens throughout the country.

    "Out of nowhere"

    Or to provide additional context to what I was saying..

    Your insinuating that because the media brought up delivroo drivers being beaten and mugged. It somehow manages to show the Irish being the lowest priority in this country?.


    No it doesn't. Try again.


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    #5904
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    I'm not here to play twenty question with ya. Your claim the Irish seem to 'lowest priority' is false.

    It's important not build your world view on pure bollix.

    It's a discussion board. Why not answer the poster's question? If his assertions are in fact ''pure bollix'', then simply dispute them and show him up.


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    #5905
    malinheader
    Registered Users Posts: 5,107 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Folks might be better to say nothing for the good of diversity.


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    #5906
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Omackeral wrote: »
    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    I'm not here to play twenty question with ya. Your claim the Irish seem to 'lowest priority' is false.

    It's important not build your world view on pure bollix.

    It's a discussion board. Why not answer the poster's question? If his assertions are in fact ''pure bollix'', then simply dispute them and show him up.


    Be my guest and tell me how the Irish in Ireland are the lowest priority?.

    Your not going to able to. Its bollix.


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    #5907
    The Bishop Basher
    Registered Users Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    I certainly feel like I’m a lower priority.

    Not just below immigrants but below every class, colour and creed of sponger in this state, including our own homegrown toe rags.

    I’ve worked every day of my life since leaving school and have never taken a cent in dole. I’m no saint but I’ve never hurt anyone or stolen from them. I’ve always contributed.

    I resent paying over half of everything I earn in both direct and indirect taxation while getting fluck all in return because we’re spending so much money supporting these gougers and their families.

    No healthy able bodied person should ever get a cent from the government without a day’s work in return. Looking around my area I can see years of work for them. You want money, you earn it. Otherwise you starve. Earning money builds a sense of self worth and respect. Everyone wins.

    Leo said he was going to look after those of us who get up in the morning. Well Leo’s a blatant liar. Our current policies and approach only serves to build a greater divide in our society and the problems we see with these gangs are only a glimpse of what’s to come.


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    #5908
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Rennaws wrote: »
    I certainly feel like I’m a lower priority.

    Not just below immigrants but below every class, colour and creed of sponger in this state, including our own homegrown toe rags.

    I’ve worked every day of my life since leaving school and have never taken a cent in dole. I’m no saint but I’ve never hurt anyone or stolen from them. I’ve always contributed.

    I resent paying over half of everything I earn in both direct and indirect taxation while getting fluck all in return because we’re spending so much money supporting these gougers and their families.

    No healthy able bodied person should ever get a cent from the government without a day’s work in return. Looking around my area I can see years of work for them. You want money, you earn it. Otherwise you starve. Earning money builds a sense of self worth and respect. Everyone wins.

    Leo said he was going to look after those of us who get up in the morning. Well Leo’s a blatant liar. Our current policies and approach only serves to build a greater divide in our society and the problems we see with these gangs are only a glimpse of what’s to come.
    You do realise.. People of colour work in Ireland aswell?.

    The decisions you made to get where you are.. Are your own. Stop blaming everybody else on your own issues. The immigrants etc have not stopped you from progressing in life. Only you have.


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    #5909
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,757 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    You do realise.. People of colour work in Ireland aswell?.

    The decisions you made to get where you are.. Are your own. Stop blaming everybody else on your own issues. The immigrants etc have not stopped you from progressing in life. Only you have.

    You didn't really read that post did you?


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    #5910
    BeerWolf
    Registered Users Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    You do realise.. People of colour work in Ireland aswell?.

    The decisions you made to get where you are.. Are your own. Stop blaming everybody else on your own issues. The immigrants etc have not stopped you from progressing in life. Only you have.

    Reading is hard... :rolleyes:


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    #5911
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    You do realise.. People of colour work in Ireland aswell?.

    The decisions you made to get where you are.. Are your own. Stop blaming everybody else on your own issues. The immigrants etc have not stopped you from progressing in life. Only you have.
    Oh sweet Jesus, I should have done this ages ago.
    Your posts are insufferable.

    You can join your extremist friend Dav on the ignore list.


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