Hot take: Multiculturalism is good

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Im not offended, I just thought your comment was a bit much that's all, I do have a teenage sister but you weren't to know that. I'm not of those people you are describing.

sk8erboii wrote: »

Reactionary types beware: Multiculturalism is defined as the spread of people and ideas.
I know you're already thinking about white genocide, catholic oppression and that liberal arts girl that rejected you for being rough around the edges. But hear me out, because im about to tell you why multiculturalism is good.
The one reason: It's the default state of humanity.You ever wonder why those forgotten tribes like in the sentinel islands is rare and in many ways primitive? Because they are not like us. The rest of the world has managed to collectively cooperate. One guy comes up with a great idea and someone else from another country copies it and improves it. Thats multiculturalism.
I made this thread as a response to the obvious xenophobic hatemongering in other posts.
Like some scumbag throwing acid to a child's face, somehow implicates every immigrant and they should be put under a proverbial spotlight. Its tenuous logic at any point of view.
Right now I want you to imagine if Ireland became your insular and backwards utopia. Forget about the Wakanda syndrome (That if a nation somehow closes its borders and focuses on itself it will become advanced) and look at case studies. The empire Japan is the poster boy for the self-serving xenophobic nation state. And it was 200 years behind until it stopped the blockade then it entered modernity.
If Ireland had no multiculturalism (which includes the Catholic church) it would literally be a depressing backwater even moreso than it was for hundreds of years. Everything you ever owned, knew and f*cked is influenced by foreign people.That doesn't mean genocide, asmuch as self-victimizing citizens in the top 10 quality of life in the world would have you think. It simply means acknowledging that Ireland and multiculturalism are deeply intertwined, even back to the building of 'native' structures (which were built by people that came from spain, scandinavia and france).
Ireland's golden days when it was all 'native' never existed. In fact, those days were among the most depressing and oppressive in history that the population never recovered. Blighted by a food that came from Peru.

The term multiculturalism has a range of meanings within the contexts of sociology, of political philosophy, and of colloquial use. In sociology and in everyday usage, it is a synonym for "ethnic pluralism", with the two terms often used interchangeably, for example, a cultural pluralism in which various ethnic groups collaborate and enter into a dialogue with one another without having to sacrifice their particular identities.

It can describe a mixed ethnic community area where multiple cultural traditions exist (such as New York City) or a single country within which they do (such as Switzerland, Belgium or Russia). Groups associated with an aboriginal or autochthonous ethnic group and foreigner ethnic groups are often the focus.

In reference to sociology, multiculturalism is the end-state of either a natural or artificial process (for example: legally-controlled immigration) and occurs on either a large national scale or on a smaller scale within a nation's communities.

On a smaller scale this can occur artificially when a jurisdiction is established or expanded by amalgamating areas with two or more different cultures (e.g. French Canada and English Canada).

On a large scale, it can occur as a result of either legal or illegal migration to and from different jurisdictions around the world (for example, Anglo-Saxon settlement of Britain by Angles, Saxons and Jutes in the 5th century or the colonization of the Americas by Europeans, Africans and Asians since the 16th century).

Multiculturalism as a political philosophy involves ideologies and policies which vary widely.

sk8erboii wrote: »

The vast majority of people accept multiculturalism as a net positive lad.

And the nations that are still on flux are the ones that were affected by European imperialism, which entailed exploitation of people and resources.

Its not that hard to understand. Vietnam for example, was under the throes of French hegemony up until the 70s hence why they are wary of white landowners. In the same way Ireland is still collectively staunchly anti-British hegemony. Contrast say with the Philippines who are very much open to foreigners due to America fighting for their liberty against Japan during WW2.

sabat wrote: »

The Vietnamese have defeated all-comers for millennia - Indians, Chinese, Khmer, French, Americans et al. Like Afghanistan, it's one of those places and peoples you just don't invade.

The Philippines was American soil until 1946.

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

I think multiculturalism is grand. I think most people are fairly ok with it, tbh. Away from the internet, most people are ok, full-stop. The internet seems to attract a lot of angry lads who are full of misery and don't see anything positive anywhere. Life's too short to obsess over stuff like this.

Auntie Semite wrote: »

When you're 33 or 43 and realising you can't afford a mortgage, ever increasing rents, due to to an endless influx of people keeping property at a premium you might not like it.

When you're 33 or 43 and realise there is an endless supply of labor competing for your job and keeping wages suppressed you might not like it.

When you're 33 and realise you can't afford to have kids but you see all those 'minorities' around you with large families you might not like it.

When you're 33 or 43 and notice that you're one of the only white faces in your neighbourhood and that your neighbours don't seem to like you very much you might not like it.

When you're 33 or 43 and you notice that there is a significantly large proportion of the population that adheres to a very assertive, and aggressive religious belief and that they hold a serious amount of political power and change the laws to reflect that religious belief you might not like it so much.

When you're 33 or 43 and realise that your country is starting to resemble south Africa in terms of crime and violence you might not like it.

When you're 33 or 43 and realise that the new majority population have regressed to their own cultural practices and did not (as you thought they would) become Liberal like you then you might not like it.

When you're 33 or 43 and you notice that women's and lgbt rights have regressed completely because they do not reflect the majority opinion then you may not like it.

When you're 33 or 43 and notice that Pakistan is still majority Pakistani, Nigeria is still Majority Nigerian, China is still majority Chinese etc but Irish are a dwindling minority you might wake up and think.... Oh Sh1t

Think about the future

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Because "diversity is our strength" is another useless catchphrase from the EU as they try water down national identity, they don't give a fiddlers as long as they get their superstate... With plenty of cheap labour

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

I think multiculturalism is grand.

I think most people are fairly ok with it, tbh. Away from the internet, most people are ok, full-stop. The internet seems to attract a lot of angry lads who are full of misery and don't see anything positive anywhere.

Life's too short to obsess over stuff like this.