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Is the Dublin accent dying?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    I'm lucky enough not to have to spend a lot of time in Dublin. The accents and general maudlin attitude down in the capital is totally at odds with my own beliefs. For example I have never watched X Factor or ordered a takeaway meal, nor have I cried at any melodramas starring Ryan Gosling.

    There is an element of anti-intellectualism and propensity for sentimentality among the populace of Dublin that I think the rather more stoic citizenry of "de country" are fortunate for not sharing and I dread any day I have to go down to the capital.

    My son is in college down there though and he loves it. So who knows.

    The city that gave us Oscar Wilde, Brendan Behan and James Joyce is a bastion of anti-intellectualism?


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    The city that gave us Oscar Wilde, Brendan Behan and James Joyce is a bastion of anti-intellectualism?

    Dont forget Samuel Beckett


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    Dont forget Samuel Beckett

    What's a bridge got to do with this ?

    I mean it's a nice bridge and all but still !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,272 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    The great Sally Hayden was on world report this am just before sorry beefoe er
    0830 this am.

    What an amazing accent........raffugees in bauts

    I’d love to get hersalf, Meeriam, and Dalla Kilroy into the same studio... The microphaunes would surely mallt.

    Great journalists though.... of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 212 ✭✭Infonovice


    I noticed a lot of the kids speaking with an american twang, are kids that come from non national parents.
    They must have learnt american english before coming over here.

    I have Polish friends aswell who have been here a long time and they are the same. American twang with a now Dublin accent too


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    It’s amazing how personally people from Dublin are taking the observations in this thread. I wonder if the curriculum is different in the capital to encourage feelings over thinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,418 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    It’s amazing how personally people from Dublin are taking the observations in this thread. I wonder if the curriculum is different in the capital to encourage feelings over thinking.

    I just find it hilarious that anyone would think there is a generic Dublin accent !! It varies hugely from one spot to another !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭rm75


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    It’s amazing how personally people from Dublin are taking the observations in this thread. I wonder if the curriculum is different in the capital to encourage feelings over thinking.

    More the deluded statements that a "scanger" accent is a dublin accent. There are many varieties of dublin accents.

    I mean it like me asking you did you drive your Massey Ferguson to work because you're not from dublin. Generally you can judge a place by whether people want to move to or from it. Based on this Dublin is an attractive place. Anyway go out and check on the cattle , the weathers pretty poor out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    It’s amazing how personally people from Dublin are taking the observations in this thread. I wonder if the curriculum is different in the capital to encourage feelings over thinking.

    It's also pretty impressive the amount of milage yourself and one or two others are getting out it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,272 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I just find it hilarious that anyone would think there is a generic Dublin accent !! It varies hugely from one spot to another !

    Give us some examples dude.

    Like the short vowel popular in the Finglas area.

    Where ‘Seán’ is pronounced ‘Shon’ and over ‘there’ is pronounced ‘theeeere’

    Over to you dude I’m off to Telllerife(Tenerife) for me hollydays.

    Let’s hear from you ,dude.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Give us some examples dude.

    Like the short vowel popular in the Finglas area.

    Where ‘Seán’ is pronounced ‘Shon’ and over ‘there’ is pronounced ‘theeeere’

    Over to you dude I’m off to Telllerife(Tenerife) for me hollydays.

    Let’s hear from you ,dude.

    What part of Finglas are you thinking of ?
    It's a large area , are you familiar with it or is it your go to example ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Give us some examples dude.

    Like the short vowel popular in the Finglas area.

    Where ‘Seán’ is pronounced ‘Shon’ and over ‘there’ is pronounced ‘theeeere’

    Over to you dude I’m off to Telllerife(Tenerife) for me hollydays.

    Let’s hear from you ,dude.

    I'm sure people from Killiney or the D4 heads will appreciate people thinking they sound like someone from Coolock.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭rm75


    Give us some examples dude.

    Like the short vowel popular in the Finglas area.

    Where ‘Seán’ is pronounced ‘Shon’ and over ‘there’ is pronounced ‘theeeere’

    Over to you dude I’m off to Telllerife(Tenerife) for me hollydays.

    Let’s hear from you ,dude.

    Ah so its a specific area of Finglas accent , mods should change the thread title.

    Different parts of dublin have accents as different as Cork and Tyrone accents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,272 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    What part of Finglas are you thinking of ?
    It's a large area , are you familiar with it or is it your go to example ?

    No, a good example is Joanne Donnelly who said she hails from that area.

    Listen to her weather reports, dude.

    Listen carefully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,272 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    I'm sure people from Killiney or the D4 heads will appreciate people thinking they sound like someone from Coolock.

    No idea what that post is about,pal.

    Do tell us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    No idea what that post is about,pal.

    Do tell us.

    Not sure if you've ever spoken to someone from those areas, but the accent isn't quite the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,272 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Not sure if you've ever spoken to someone from those areas, but the accent isn't quite the same.

    What are you trying to say, buddy.

    What areas

    What accent

    Same as what.


    C’mon dude......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    What are you trying to say, buddy.

    What areas

    What accent

    Same as what.


    C’mon dude......

    You into the second half of a slab of Polish lager?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,272 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    You into the second half of a slab of Polish lager?

    Sucking a few cans of Perla, what’s the problem John.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    I think the dub area is just getting diluted by people whose parents are not from Dublin.
    Where ‘Seán’ is pronounced ‘Shon’ and over ‘there’ is pronounced ‘theeeere’
    By Shon, do you mean the anglicised version of Sean, which is Shaun?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,266 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I just find it hilarious that anyone would think there is a generic Dublin accent !! It varies hugely from one spot to another !

    There are people from "down the country" that think the "Dublin accent" is the northside accent and the South side accent is posh


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Give us some examples dude.

    Like the short vowel popular in the Finglas area.

    Where ‘Seán’ is pronounced ‘Shon’ and over ‘there’ is pronounced ‘theeeere’

    Over to you dude I’m off to Telllerife(Tenerife) for me hollydays.

    Let’s hear from you ,dude.

    Have literally never heard anyone pronounce it like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,272 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    the_syco wrote: »
    I think the dub area is just getting diluted by people whose parents are not from Dublin.


    By Shon, do you mean the anglicised version of Sean, which is Shaun?

    No I mean this.....

    Take the word ‘murder’ most people outside Dublin pronounce it as ‘murder’

    How Joseph Duffy pronounce it.... ‘moooorder’ or the ‘noooorses’ vs the ‘nurses’

    Let’s start there... do you get that .

    The vowel is shortened by the culchie and elongated by the Doob

    Are you with me shaft.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No I mean this.....

    Take the word ‘murder’ most people outside Dublin pronounce it as ‘murder’

    How Joseph Duffy pronounce it.... ‘moooorder’ or the ‘noooorses’ vs the ‘nurses’

    Let’s start there... do you get that .

    The vowel is shortened by the culchie and elongated by the Doob

    Are you with me shaft.

    ''Doob'' would rhyme with tube. You're not really accurate at all with your descriptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    No I mean this.....

    Take the word ‘murder’ most people outside Dublin pronounce it as ‘murder’

    How Joseph Duffy pronounce it.... ‘moooorder’ or the ‘noooorses’ vs the ‘nurses’

    Let’s start there... do you get that .

    The vowel is shortened by the culchie and elongated by the Doob

    Are you with me shaft.

    Nooorses or mooorder ?

    No ,I can't say I've ever heard or noticed that .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,272 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Have literally never heard anyone pronounce it like that.

    You must lead a sheltered life, on not be too attentive to phonetics.

    It’s the same as ‘ chimney’ the Doob has a problem with the ‘n’ so it’s ‘chimley’.

    Likewise ‘Teneriffe’ Becomes ‘Telleriffe’ .

    Same as the ‘r’. The Doob doesn’t go to a ‘carvery’ he goes to a ‘cavery’ he doesn’t drink ‘Carlsberg’ he drinks ‘Calsberg’.

    Listen more carefully dude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,272 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Nooorses or mooorder ?

    No ,I can't say I've ever heard or noticed that .

    Good man, is it raining in Patagonia?

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,272 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Omackeral wrote: »
    ''Doob'' would rhyme with tube. You're not really accurate at all with your descriptions.

    No mate.

    Dube would rhyme with tube.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You must lead a sheltered life

    I work in a prison, so not really. Also from a working-class area of Dublin as are all my family, including Finglas.
    It’s the same as ‘ chimney’ the Doob has a problem with the ‘n’ so it’s ‘chimley’.

    Likewise ‘Teneriffe’ Becomes ‘Telleriffe’ .

    Chimley I've heard. Same as hosptable. Literally have never heard the other thing. You've just made that up. Also, 'Doob' would rhyme with 'tube' and, again, nobody says that.
    Same as the ‘r’. The Doob doesn’t go to a ‘carvery’ he goes to a ‘cavery’ he doesn’t drink ‘Carlsberg’ he drinks ‘Calsberg’.

    Listen more carefully dude.

    I've listened perfectly and all I can deduce is that you sound like an absolute knob with a hearing problem... dude.


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  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No mate.

    Dube would rhyme with tube.

    'Doob' would rhyme with food... matedudepalbuddy.


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