Is the Dublin accent dying?

Dickie10 · 01-03-2019 10:32am #1

has anyone noticed the way young girls and boys are not speaking in the strong dublin accents anymore? they either sound very flat bordering on D4 or like most late late toy show kids fully blown D4 or else there half americanised accent. so will we see many dublin accents at all in future? vast majority of dublin gaa and dublin based rugby plaayers now have very little trace of a dublin accent. also seems very hard to distinguish between young people in dublin, meath ,kildare or wicklow accent wise because of the amount of kids born to dublin parents in these counties , they may have never lived a day in dublin in there lives but now definitly dont see themselves as culchies either. so what are these type of people to be called?

Feisar · 01-03-2019 10:35am

A generation raised on youtube.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 01-03-2019 10:35am

Try hanging around North Dublin or even North inner city , you'll find plenty a scumbag/dublin accent.

There is a another craze of kids sounding very British. You can thank that fat **** Peppa pig for that

JohnnyFlash · 01-03-2019 10:39am

Hope so. The worst part of living in Dublin is having to hear that accent. Sounds like someone is after interfering with them from behind.

super_furry · 01-03-2019 10:41am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Hope so. The worst part of living in Dublin is having to hear that accent. Sounds like someone is after interfering with them from behind.

Feel free to toddle off back to whatever bog you came up from.

theteal · 01-03-2019 10:44am

Nope, my 2 yr old Essex born daughter randomly throws up one the best "ah jayzis"s I've ever heard - courtesy of her uncle from the heart of Blanch

We'll continue to fight the good fight from over here!

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

There is a another craze of kids sounding very British. You can thank that fat **** Peppa pig for that

Yeah, MrsTeal is a bit paranoid that the little 'un already has an English accent (which will be fairly unavoidable depending on how much longer we're over here) but I if you listen to some of the expressions she comes out with it's clear as day that that poxy pig (who is a bit of a bint tbh) is a predominant influence, even though she doesn't watch much telly - thankfully PJ Masks and anything with dinosaurs now are now the flavour of the month.

Deebles McBeebles · 01-03-2019 10:48am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_accent

Franz Von Peppercorn · 01-03-2019 10:50am

It’s not dying at all. Maybe on the south side some Americanised slang is being used. If anything modern accents are harsher than they were.

major bill · 01-03-2019 10:50am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Hope so. The worst part of living in Dublin is having to hear that accent. Sounds like someone is after interfering with them from behind.

Yet its a match winner in the UK and any other country we go to.

Jealous people everywhere :P

01-03-2019 10:51am

Well, my 4-year-old manages to make the English word 'school' into two syllables. I correct her each time and she just makes more of an elongated two syllables out of it for the craic, laughing her heart out. Two days ago as I was driving I corrected her and she took the piss out of it again, only to be followed by her 2-year-old brother in the seat next to her who is now, for the first time, making two syllables out of that word. And laughing through it all.

Feck it; I give up. She can 'done that', 'seen that' and eat 'crips' to her heart's content as seo amach.

Red_Wake · 01-03-2019 10:55am

It's surge again when the next Methadone clinic opens up.

micks_address · 01-03-2019 10:56am

i wonder what percentage of people living in dublin are actually orginally from dublin at this stage... half the country must have moved here for work

JohnnyFlash · 01-03-2019 10:57am

super_furry wrote: »

Feel free to toddle off back to whatever bog you came up from.

Don’t be so thin-skinned. All I said is that the ‘salt o da erth’ Dublin accent is a noise that can be irritating at best, and downright offensive at worst. It’s an accent that gives impression of John Player Blue, a day ‘in da boooookeees’, battering the wife, Ray and chips for dinner, racing pigeons, and never having worked a day in your life.

Calltocall · 01-03-2019 10:58am

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Try hanging around North Dublin or even North inner city , you'll find plenty a scumbag/dublin accent.

There is a another craze of kids sounding very British. You can thank that fat **** Peppa pig for that

So you’re a scumbag if you have an authentic accent which originates from where you live, I’d rather have the authenticity of that than this half British/American fake accent which was basically made up to make one sound supposedly more intelligent and used to hide your origins for fear of people looking down on you, so insincere and ridiculous, be real, always the best policy.

Deebles McBeebles · 01-03-2019 11:00am

micks_address wrote: »

i wonder what percentage of people living in dublin are actually orginally from dublin at this stage... half the country must have moved here for work

And vice versa for accommodation. Feels like I'm living in Little Tallaght some days.

w/s/p/c/ · 01-03-2019 11:03am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Don’t be so thin-skinned. All I said is that the ‘salt o da erth’ Dublin accent is a noise that can be irritating at best, and downright offensive at worst. It’s an accent that gives impression of John Player Blue, a day ‘in da boooookeees’, battering the wife, Ray and chips for dinner, racing pigeons, and never having worked a day in your life.

And what wonderful accent do you speak with? Go on, give us a laugh

Peregrinus · 01-03-2019 11:06am

micks_address wrote: »

i wonder what percentage of people living in dublin are actually orginally from dublin at this stage... half the country must have moved here for work

Nothing new there. When I was a chizler in primary school in the 1970s, I was the only child in my class who had two parents both born in Dublin. And even I only had one out of four grandparents born in Dublin.

All accents are developing all the time, and all middle-aged and older people complain that young people are losing their accents/speaking in affected accents/being swamped by foreign accents/whatever. It was ever thus.

theteal · 01-03-2019 11:08am

micks_address wrote: »

i wonder what percentage of people living in dublin are actually orginally from dublin at this stage... half the country must have moved here for work

I'm (almost) first generation Dub - I say almost as my old man is born and raised in Dublin but nobody would believe you. The mother is Kildare and the grandparents were Kildare, Offaly, Kerry and Mayo. I was regarded as half-bogger by the friends growing up.

The wife's family are Dubs true and true, hiding rebels during the fun times and all.

PointHop123 · 01-03-2019 11:09am

Is the DORT accent not a real Dublin accent as well?

Woke Hogan · 01-03-2019 11:21am

I'm lucky enough not to have to spend a lot of time in Dublin. The accents and general maudlin attitude down in the capital is totally at odds with my own beliefs. For example I have never watched X Factor or ordered a takeaway meal, nor have I cried at any melodramas starring Ryan Gosling.

There is an element of anti-intellectualism and propensity for sentimentality among the populace of Dublin that I think the rather more stoic citizenry of "de country" are fortunate for not sharing and I dread any day I have to go down to the capital.

My son is in college down there though and he loves it. So who knows.

The Crowman · 01-03-2019 11:25am

Calltocall wrote: »

So you’re a scumbag if you have an authentic accent which originates from where you live, I’d rather have the authenticity of that than this half British/American fake accent which was basically made up to make one sound supposedly more intelligent and used to hide your origins for fear of people looking down on you, so insincere and ridiculous, be real, always the best policy.

This. The snobbery around accents in this country never ceases to amaze me. We're worse than the English with their supposed class system.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 01-03-2019 11:28am

Peregrinus wrote: »

Nothing new there. When I was a chizler in primary school in the 1970s, I was the only child in my class who had two parents both born in Dublin. And even I only had one out of four grandparents born in Dublin.

All accents are developing all the time, and all middle-aged and older people complain that young people are losing their accents/speaking in affected accents/being swamped by foreign accents/whatever. It was ever thus.

I was listening to a show on RTE radio about historical Irish weather last night, first broadcast in the 80s. There were lots of accents, none of them too strong, and people generally enunciated better. Accents are not going away.

BOHtox · 01-03-2019 11:29am

Norra bleerin' hope is eh dyin'

Mena Mitty · 01-03-2019 11:30am

There was a young fella with a Dublin accent used to be a presenter on RTE children's programmes, I think he was about 18 or 19 years old at the time. I remember him as being quiet good and he was so at ease with camera's etc. it looked like he was presenting all his life.

I can't remember his name. I think he disappeared off the TV before that 'rindybout' accent became fashionable.

AdamD · 01-03-2019 11:32am

The idea that a hundreds of thousands of people are putting on a 'fake accent' is absolutely hilarious and doesn't seem to come up anywhere other than boards.

ciarang85 · 01-03-2019 11:34am

Mena Mitty wrote: »

There was a young fella with a Dublin accent used to be a presenter on RTE children's programmes, I think he was about 18 or 19 years old at the time. I remember him as being quiet good and he was so at ease with camera's etc. it looked like he was presenting all his life.

I can't remember his name. I think he disappeared off the TV before that 'rindybout' accent became fashionable.

Kevin O'Connell i think

is_that_so · 01-03-2019 11:34am

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, my 4-year-old manages to make the English word 'school' into two syllables. I correct her each time and she just makes more of an elongated two syllables out of it for the craic, laughing her heart out. Two days ago as I was driving I corrected her and she took the piss out of it again, only to be followed by her 2-year-old brother in the seat next to her who is now, for the first time, making two syllables out of that word. And laughing through it all.

Feck it; I give up. She can 'done that', 'seen that' and eat 'crips' to her heart's content as seo amach.

Just keep repeating it. A four year old has no idea and thinks you're being stupid. Eventually she will take it on board. It usually takes a kid till about the age of seven to get a handle on basic English grammar. Crisps is a horror of a word to say, she just can't pronounce it yet - logjam of consonants!:p

nullzero · 01-03-2019 11:37am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Don’t be so thin-skinned. All I said is that the ‘salt o da erth’ Dublin accent is a noise that can be irritating at best, and downright offensive at worst. It’s an accent that gives impression of John Player Blue, a day ‘in da boooookeees’, battering the wife, Ray and chips for dinner, racing pigeons, and never having worked a day in your life.

You've succinctly summed up the existence of everyone with a Dublin accent with such ease.
Can't wait for me Ray and chips later, have a lovely tip that I must get down to the bookies to back, but I just have to collect me dole money and pop home and knock the missus about a bit first.

Thanks be to jaysus dem culchies are runnin the place while I have me feet up, dis is de life.

is_that_so · 01-03-2019 11:38am

PointHop123 wrote: »

Is the DORT accent not a real Dublin accent as well?

It is a neutral, artificial to an extent, accent, out of the likes of RTE and through celebs wanting to sound like they are from wealthy areas of South Dublin. You can find it as far away as Galway and Limerick!

nullzero · 01-03-2019 11:39am

Mena Mitty wrote: »

There was a young fella with a Dublin accent used to be a presenter on RTE children's programmes, I think he was about 18 or 19 years old at the time. I remember him as being quiet good and he was so at ease with camera's etc. it looked like he was presenting all his life.

I can't remember his name. I think he disappeared off the TV before that 'rindybout' accent became fashionable.

Kevo, he was bleedin rapid.

Riesen_Meal · 01-03-2019 11:41am

Genuinely proud of my Dublin 9 accent and the only time I will remotely change it is if I'm on air...

Is the Dublin accent dying?

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