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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,634 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Fair play to yiz with the Worlds best gin. Anyone tried it?

    Was thinking of getting a bottle as a gift for the misses albeit she only ever has it with tonic and I'm not sure if it's worth getting good quality liquor when it's just going into a mixer.

    Personally think gin is one of those drinks that is so noxious I actually find myself questioning the people that drink it. Tastes horrific to me.

    Dingle is pretty cheap tbh. At 36e a bottle before a sale (O Briens) its probably a tenner cheaper than Hendricks, 20 cheaper than Gunpowder and 30 cheaper than Monkey 47 (and 200ml larger). If she likes her G&Ts and she drinks at home a lot go to the whiskey shop in the powerscourt centre. Buy her the gin and behind the counter they have jars of botannicals. Candied Ginger, Pink Peppercorns, Rose Petals. Big bags of notions basically. Get two or three of them too.

    I've found it's a winner for gin people.


  • Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    errlloyd wrote: »
    and she drinks at home a lot

    Why don't you just come right out and say it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    troyzer wrote: »
    In other news, the Irish Times et al are driving me insane calling the Favourite an "Irish production" without any qualification. It had five production companies involved, one of which is an Irish company. We're getting as bad as the Brits calling Saoirse Ronan British.

    Its like when you Paddies try to claim Daniel Day-Lewis. He's a Brit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Yeah_Right wrote: »
    Its like when you Paddies try to claim Daniel Day-Lewis. He's a Brit.

    He's both. There's always been a weird thing when it comes to the Irish diaspora. No other country in the world has anything like the size of our diaspora relative to our current population. There's not as clear a distinction between being born in Ireland and being born abroad to Irish parents because such a huge number of people have done it.

    Just like New Zealand has it's own quirks with white people and the Māori.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Why don't you just come right out and say it ?

    I'll say it : The only way someone could live you with you, is if they were drunk. A lot. Permanently. Wasted. Hammered.

    Now go buy her a bottle of Beefeater. She won't be able to tell the difference.

    :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    It's all marketing and rubbish. This gin should only be drank with rasberries and elderflower tonic. That gin should be drank with a sprig of rosemary and lime.

    No. It's gin. It's from juniper berries. Drink it with tonic and some ice if you'd like. Last year, Aldi's home brand won best in the world in a similar award. This year, Dingle won it. The biggest difference between them all is the price tag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,634 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Buer wrote: »
    It's all marketing and rubbish. This gin should only be drank with rasberries and elderflower tonic. That gin should be drank with a sprig of rosemary and lime.

    No. It's gin. It's from juniper berries. Drink it with tonic and some ice if you'd like. Last year, Aldi's home brand won best in the world in a similar award. This year, Dingle won it. The biggest difference between them all is the price tag.

    I agree with you, but almost everything is the same. People pay more for Evian than they do for Ballygowan. The differences between the most expensive top shelf Gin (Monkey 47) and Beefeater is 200% of so. Which isn't too much of a range for products.

    I find Whiskey to be the worst for that ****e. "This was aged in a cask that was once used for Bourbon, then used for wine from the Burgundy region, you can still just about taste the grain particles adsorbed from the air kicked up by the farms in Kentucky".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    errlloyd wrote: »
    I agree with you, but almost everything is the same. People pay more for Evian than they do for Ballygowan. The differences between the most expensive top shelf Gin (Monkey 47) and Beefeater is 200% of so. Which isn't too much of a range for products.

    I find Whiskey to be the worst for that ****e. "This was aged in a cask that was once used for Bourbon, then used for wine from the Burgundy region, you can still just about taste the grain particles adsorbed from the air kicked up by the farms in Kentucky".

    I'll never forget the day about this time last year when I was taking the dog for a walk and asked if anyone wanted anything in Spar and my little sister said "Can you you get me a 125 centilitrebottle of Evian please?".

    I got her the Spar water out of spite. She didn't drink it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    errlloyd wrote: »

    I find Whiskey to be the worst for that ****e. "This was aged in a cask that was once used for Bourbon, then used for wine from the Burgundy region, you can still just about taste the grain particles adsorbed from the air kicked up by the farms in Kentucky".

    Yep and it still tastes like ****e even after all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    stephen_n wrote: »
    Yep and it still tastes like ****e even after all that.

    Whiskey? You philistine...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Zzippy wrote: »
    Whiskey? You philistine...

    Whiskey and coffee are two tastes I’ve never and will never acquire. Also whiskey doesn’t agree with me or rather it makes me (more) disagreeable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,503 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Thinking of getting a hotel or AirBnB down the south of France for a week or two in September, myself and the girlfriend.

    Anyone got any recommendations for what city to go for/in around?

    I've heard Marseilles is a bit dodge, but any one spent much time down around that area?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Thinking of getting a hotel or AirBnB down the south of France for a week or two in September, myself and the girlfriend.

    Anyone got any recommendations for what city to go for/in around?

    I've heard Marseilles is a bit dodge, but any one spent much time down around that area?

    Personally I'd say Nice, you've day trips to Antibes/Juan Les Pins or Cannes further west, and then Monaco to the east.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Thinking of getting a hotel or AirBnB down the south of France for a week or two in September, myself and the girlfriend.

    Anyone got any recommendations for what city to go for/in around?

    I've heard Marseilles is a bit dodge, but any one spent much time down around that area?

    Stay in Aix-en-Provence. I can't recommend it enough and it's a half hour bus from Marseille. Definitely go to Marseille for a day trip or two to the Vieux Port and Notre Dame de la Garde.

    You've the pick of places to go on the Cote d'Azur and surrounds really. Avignon is worth a day trip as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Yeah Nice here as well. All the little hilltop villages are a bus ride away and are beyond lovely.
    Carcassonne is another area to consider.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    I'm a bit perplexed by this George Pell case. Let me just start by saying I'm not a member of any religion and I'm not a religious person, so I'm not coming at it from that perspective.

    But is it really possible to convict someone of something so awful based on a victim's statement? I'm not familiar with the law but is it really possible to go to prison because someone said you did it without any supporting evidence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    troyzer wrote: »
    I'm a bit perplexed by this George Pell case. Let me just start by saying I'm not a member of any religion and I'm not a religious person, so I'm not coming at it from that perspective.

    But is it really possible to convict someone of something so awful based on a victim's statement? I'm not familiar with the law but is it really possible to go to prison because someone said you did it without any supporting evidence?

    You certainly can’t convict someone based on a statement with no supporting evidence. That’s why other cases against him have been dropped due to a lack of evidence.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    You certainly can’t convict someone based on a statement with no supporting evidence. That’s why other cases against him have been dropped due to a lack of evidence.

    I think that what counts as "evidence" is a lot looser then what people expect though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    You certainly can’t convict someone based on a statement with no supporting evidence. That’s why other cases against him have been dropped due to a lack of evidence.

    But that's what happened here. The other victim died a few years ago and the prosecutor said that the case hinged on whether or not the jury found the still living victim to be a trustworthy witness.

    I've read a couple of articles on this and none of them allude to supporting evidence. It's just one person's word against another. This is from the Guardian article:
    In his closing address, the crown prosecutor Mark Gibson told the jury their verdict would come down to whether they believed the complainant beyond reasonable doubt. They should find the complainant an honest witness, Gibson said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    I think that what counts as "evidence" is a lot looser then what people expect though.

    Yeah, I think people just misunderstand the concept.

    They didn’t just sit there for over a month listening to the same statement on repeat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Yeah, I think people just misunderstand the concept.

    They didn’t just sit there for over a month listening to the same statement on repeat.

    I'm open to correction but none of the articles have alluded to any other evidence.

    It's also hard to imagine what evidence there could be, it happened over 20 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    troyzer wrote: »
    I'm open to correction but none of the articles have alluded to any other evidence.

    It's also hard to imagine what evidence there could be, it happened over 20 years ago.

    Ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Ok

    Alright, apologies if this is a sensitive topic for some. A close family member was affected by something similar and I probably shouldn't have brought it up.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    troyzer wrote: »
    I'm open to correction but none of the articles have alluded to any other evidence.

    It's also hard to imagine what evidence there could be, it happened over 20 years ago.

    There would be circumstantial evidence that could be used to corroborate as many statements of the witness as possible. A lot of crimes get prosecuted without the "hard" evidence people might expect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    There would be circumstantial evidence that could be used to corroborate as many statements of the witness as possible. A lot of crimes get prosecuted without the "hard" evidence people might expect.

    Hmm, interesting. I suppose I'm coming at this from the persective of seeing other cases with loads of hard evidence go down in flames in different legal regimes.

    I work in science as well so I'm coming at it from a different persective when it comes to evidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Personally I'd say Nice, you've day trips to Antibes/Juan Les Pins or Cannes further west, and then Monaco to the east.

    Nice is a good spot to base oneself in relation to surrounding areas and transport links. But I have to say, I was very underwhelmed with Nice itself. I found it to be extremely bland. I feel if someone was dropped in the middle of Nice without being told where they were, there's no guarantee that they'd realise they were in France, let alone Nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Thinking of getting a hotel or AirBnB down the south of France for a week or two in September, myself and the girlfriend.

    Anyone got any recommendations for what city to go for/in around?

    I've heard Marseilles is a bit dodge, but any one spent much time down around that area?
    Stay in Aix-en-Provence. I can't recommend it enough and it's a half hour bus from Marseille. Definitely go to Marseille for a day trip or two to the Vieux Port and Notre Dame de la Garde.

    You've the pick of places to go on the Cote d'Azur and surrounds really. Avignon is worth a day trip as well.

    If you're going to Aix, Hotel Negrecoste might be worth a shout. It's on the Cours Mirabeau which is the main street of the town. It was an old hotel when I stayed there five years ago but a look on the website suggests it's been renovated since.

    If you end up around that region, drop me a PM if you need to know anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Buer wrote: »
    Nice is a good spot to base oneself in relation to surrounding areas and transport links. But I have to say, I was very underwhelmed with Nice itself. I found it to be extremely bland. I feel if someone was dropped in the middle of Nice without being told where they were, there's no guarantee that they'd realise they were in France, let alone Nice.

    Yeah basically Nice is a misnomer.

    Savage Supermarkets though if you want every sort of alcohol known to man at cheap prices.

    Think Montpellier is nicer myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Buer wrote: »
    Nice is a good spot to base oneself in relation to surrounding areas and transport links. But I have to say, I was very underwhelmed with Nice itself. I found it to be extremely bland. I feel if someone was dropped in the middle of Nice without being told where they were, there's no guarantee that they'd realise they were in France, let alone Nice.
    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Yeah basically Nice is a misnomer.

    Savage Supermarkets though if you want every sort of alcohol known to man at cheap prices.

    Think Montpellier is nicer myself.

    Yeah I guess I can see where you're coming from, I stayed further out in Cagnes Sur Mer with family every year for a few years and found Nice to be nice enough.

    Depends what you're looking for I guess.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,503 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Depends what you're looking for I guess.

    I realise you weren't asking, but generally, looking for a nice relaxing holiday, not go too crazy visiting places, chill in the evenings with some wine and cheese with decent weather and surroundings.

    Not that we won't be going around visiting places just it won't be an action packed city break where we have to see everything on offer in a short time period. Might actually divvy it up, one week near/in one city, another somewhere else.


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