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To those who believe WTC 7 didn't fall due to fire, how did it fall?

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    #2492
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    The Nal wrote: »
    18 years later and not one conspirator has been uncovered. Because there werent any.
    Cept for the one who admitted it on camera in a government funded documentary for no reason at all.
    And the rando fire chief who decided when to destroy WTC7 as pointed to in that confession.


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    #2493
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    King Mob wrote: »
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

    But again, you are completely ignorant of science.
    I don't believe your "evidence".
    No one does.


    But why?
    Which part of the floor and roof?
    Why did it collapse before the "simultaneous" explosions?

    You just highlighted why the debunkers brain needs to be studied.

    Real evidence. Truthers have a genuine slide belonging to UGS. It was a slide of molybdenum sphere (melted in the dust)

    The temp to melt molybdenum is 2600 Celsius.

    I don't care what you believe this evidence is readily available online and talked about.

    It did not collapse before explosions. The explosion boom/echo was heard on video before the Penthouse collapsed,.


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    #2494
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Here is a demolitions expert from the largest demolition companies in the world on the subject. Bonus: Richard Gage (911 conspiracy theorist) appears and suggests that explosives could have been planted when the building was built in the 80's

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIIWbEgESJY

    A futile exercise for you, but this is for others reading this thread

    His reaction for Gage's bananas notion is perfect.


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    #2495
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    You just highlighted why the debunkers brain needs to be studied.
    More projection. It's sad and pathetic.
    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Real evidence. Truthers have a genuine slide belonging to UGS. It was a slide of molybdenum sphere (melted in the dust)

    The temp to melt molybdenum is 2600 Celsius.

    I don't care what you believe this evidence is readily available online and talked about.
    But again, you are completely ignorant about science and you have a child's level of reading comprehension. So rational people simply don't believe your interpretation of complicated scientific topics like the above.

    You are a child trying to pretend to be a scientist.
    You are either 12 years old, or you are someone who has never taken a single science class.
    Yet you pretend to be informed.
    No one is falling for it.

    Be honest cheerful, which is it?
    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    It did not collapse before explosions. The explosion boom/echo was heard on video before the Penthouse collapsed,.
    Ok, so if it collapsed after the explosions, why did it collapse before the rest of the building?

    You again contradict your own claims because you either don't read what you write or you don't know what words like "simultaneous" mean.
    Or again, a combination of both.


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    #2496
    The Nal
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    King Mob wrote: »
    His reaction for Gage's bananas notion is perfect.

    Amazing that some people think they wired buildings and no one noticed. Mentally ill behaviour.


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    #2497
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    The Nal wrote: »
    Amazing that some people think they wired buildings and no one noticed. Mentally ill behaviour.
    More when the presenter tells him about Gage's notion that the demolition charges were installed in the building during it's remodeling or it's construction.

    Gage being one of the many experts cheerful expounds as infallible.


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    #2498
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    The Nal wrote: »
    Amazing that some people think they wired buildings and no one noticed. Mentally ill behaviour.

    Who going to notice you watch too many movies? Do you think professionals are just going to walk in with boxes marked with a demolition sign? Yes, they could have gone unnoticed. All the needed was clearance to bypass security the rest is easy.


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    #2499
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Who going to notice you watch too many movies? Do you think professionals are just going to walk in with boxes marked with a demolition sign? Yes, they could have gone unnoticed. All the needed was clearance to bypass security the rest is easy.
    But the demolition expert in the video explains this.

    You obviously didn't watch. You hilariously obvious hypocrite.

    Also you now are claiming to know more than a demolition expert.

    Again, you are a joke.


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    #2500
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    King Mob wrote: »
    More projection. It's sad and pathetic.

    But again, you are completely ignorant about science and you have a child's level of reading comprehension. So rational people simply don't believe your interpretation of complicated scientific topics like the above.

    You are a child trying to pretend to be a scientist.
    You are either 12 years old, or you are someone who has never taken a single science class.
    Yet you pretend to be informed.
    No one is falling for it.

    Be honest cheerful, which is it?


    Ok, so if it collapsed after the explosions, why did it collapse before the rest of the building?

    You again contradict your own claims because you either don't read what you write or you don't know what words like "simultaneous" mean.
    Or again, a combination of both.

    This coming from someone who believes in the invisible man. The utter stupidity. Anyone with a good eye could see was just a camera or video artefact.

    Never mind you claimed steel is not mostly Iron. And we had a long debate about this nonsense.


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    #2501
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    This coming from someone who believes in the invisible man. The utter stupidity. Anyone with a good eye could see was just a camera or video artefact.

    Never mind you claimed steel is not mostly Iron. And we had a long debate about this nonsense.
    Lol, and now deflection again. Pathetic.

    But it's ok. You've shredded any respectability conspiracy theorists here might have.
    You've done far more damage than any of us "debunkers."


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    #2502
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol, and now deflection again. Pathetic.

    But it's ok. You've shredded any respectability conspiracy theorists here might have.
    You've done far more damage than any of us "debunkers."

    I not just highlighting your stupidity. The invisible man is real according to you:)


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    #2503
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    I just proved your ridiculous claims wrong :)

    You haven't proven anything you fraud!

    You have refused to answer my questions and then asked me to watch a video of a demolition labourer (yes thats his job! He was a labourer for a demolition company) as if it would validate your ridiculous claims!


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    #2504
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    I not just highlighting your stupidity. The invisible man is real according to you:)
    Sure...
    You got me with that one.
    You are very clever and know many things.
    You can science like a real grown up.


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    #2505
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,829 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Who going to notice you watch too many movies? Do you think professionals are just going to walk in with boxes marked with a demolition sign? Yes, they could have gone unnoticed. All the needed was clearance to bypass security the rest is easy.

    It's impossible to rig a building that size in secret according to a world leading demolitions expert

    It took them months to rig a building far smaller than either of the WTC towers

    Look at the video, they have to cut beams, they have to plant hundreds of charges, miles upon miles of detonation cable, they have to gut the entire building. Not one piece of detonation cord or wire was discovered afterwards

    You are casually making this extraordinary claim, then refusing to answer any questions on it, refusing to provide any hard evidence

    What explosive was used? how many charges were used in each building? who were the people who rigged these buildings? how many were involved?


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    #2506
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    By the way, the debunkers were convinced this was a real person even attacked me for it? They also denied this could be the liquid the Firefighters saw flowing in the rubble ( molten steel)

    473934.png


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    #2507
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    By the way, the debunkers were convinced this was a real person even attacked me for it? They also denied this could be liquid the Firefighters saw flowing in the rubble ( molten steel)
    Lol, again with this.

    No one buys your obviously bull**** explanation of that picture.
    It's one of your sillier, most hilarious claims, yet you are posting it to an audience of no one as if it is a gotcha.

    Pathetic.


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    #2508
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol, again with this.

    No one buys your obviously bull**** explanation of that picture.
    It's one of your sillier, most hilarious claims, yet you are posting it to an audience of no one as if it is a gotcha.

    Pathetic.

    Firefighters reported the liquid flowed like lava like a foundry. This is photographic evidence of a lava-like liquid near the steel columns. You deny the evidence.


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    #2509
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    It's impossible to rig a building that size in secret according to a world leading demolitions expert

    It took them months to rig a building far smaller than either of the WTC towers

    Look at the video, they have to cut beams, they have to plant hundreds of charges, miles upon miles of detonation cable, they have to gut the entire building. Not one piece of detonation cord or wire was discovered afterwards

    Im curious to hear an answer for this.


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    #2510
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol, again with this.

    No one buys your obviously bull**** explanation of that picture.
    It's one of your sillier, most hilarious claims, yet you are posting it to an audience of no one as if it is a gotcha.

    Pathetic.

    He will start with his massive mirror/glass next that somehow magically survived. He has obviously never seen or been close to the twin towers and just scatters idiotic suggestions at a rate of knots.


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    #2511
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    He will start with his massive mirror/glass next that somehow magically survived. He has obviously never seen or been close to the twin towers and just scatters idiotic suggestions at a rate of knots.

    There a rational explanation to explain it. No need to believe in an invisible man and stick man coexist in one spot.

    It obvious from the get-go the images are reflections of the two firefighters.

    I tried to highlight the findings in this image.

    473937.png


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    #2512
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lol the crayon drawings are back.
    That'll make him look sane, adult and respectable.

    These are what make me wonder if he's just a very long term troll.
    They are just a little too silly and disjointed and clearly childish.


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    #2513
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol the crayon drawings are back.
    That'll make him look sane, adult and respectable.

    When you believe an invisible man and stick man can exist. I had to use crayon drawings for you to notice;)


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    #2514
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    How did they wire the buildings without anyone noticing - not seeing the wiring or hearing the demolition during wiring - and why were there no bits of wires and charges and so on found?


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    #2515
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    When you believe an invisible man and stick man can exist. I had to use crayon drawings for you to notice;)
    Go for it. They don't show what you think they show and they are really funny.
    They make you even more of joke, which is why I'm starting to wonder if you are a troll pretending to be a parody of a delusional conspiracy theorist.
    They're just a touch too silly.


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    #2516
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    The Nal wrote: »
    How did they wire the buildings without anyone noticing - not seeing the wiring or hearing the demolition during wiring - and why were there no bits of wires and charges and so on found?

    You don't need to wire the building, You can set off charges remotely by wireless/radio receiver connection. This a myth that you can only do it one way.

    The wires would be located behind walls whos going to see them? I already explained to you a company was doing renovations and upgrading elevators for years. Drilling and noise would be heard, it would not be suspicious to someone hearing it. It not like they were in a rush the had months to prepare maybe even year.

    You don't find explosives after they are used? You verify explosives by taking residue samples and checking the chemistry.


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    #2517
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    You don't need to wire the building, You can set off charges remotely by wireless/radio receiver connection. This a myth that you can only do it one way.

    The wires would be located behind walls whos going to see them? I already explained to you a company was doing renovations and upgrading elevators for years. Drilling and noise would be heard, it would not be suspicious to someone hearing it. It not like they were in a rush the had months to prepare maybe even year.

    You don't find explosives after they are used? You verify explosives by taking residue samples and checking the chemistry.

    And again, the reason they did all this:
    Destroy some paper work.

    Best theory.


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    #2518
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,829 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    This is photographic evidence of a lava-like liquid near the steel columns. You deny the evidence.

    For other readers

    It's a 911 worker cutting steel with a thermitic lance or acetylene torch

    cutting_p1.jpg

    http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911/index.php%3Fmodule%3Dpagemaster%26PAGE_user_op%3Dview_printable%26PAGE_id%3D84%26lay_quiet%3D1

    Watch the below, skip to 2 minutes in where the steel is being cut, and pause for effect to produce "river of molten steel"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GniL4-sf6X4



    The below was presented by truthers as firemen discovering "molten steel"

    jones_firemen.jpg

    It's a (manipulated) photo of firemen around a light, the original version below

    5575.jpg


    Below was presented as "evidence" of molten metal

    64b5851a6f8d255fd9602f0e8d2e0ce7.jpg

    The real image

    d95c5e1945f8bdf4c259bf13b3552709._.jpg

    It was burning paper

    d7a152881c54bdd799bac89466d34c34.jpg


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    #2519
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    You don't need to wire the building, You can set off charges remotely by wireless/radio receiver connection. This a myth that you can only do it one way.

    The wires would be located behind walls whos going to see them? I already explained to you a company was doing renovations and upgrading elevators for years. Drilling and noise would be heard, it would not be suspicious to someone hearing it. It not like they were in a rush the had months to prepare maybe even year.
    .

    Lol


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    #2520
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    For other readers

    It's a 911 worker cutting steel with a thermitic lance or acetylene torch

    cutting_p1.jpg

    http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911/index.php%3Fmodule%3Dpagemaster%26PAGE_user_op%3Dview_printable%26PAGE_id%3D84%26lay_quiet%3D1

    Watch the below, skip to 2 minutes in where the steel is being cut, and pause for effect to produce "river of molten steel"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GniL4-sf6X4

    The below was presented by truthers as firemen discovering "molten steel"

    jones_firemen.jpg

    It's a (manipulated) photo of firemen around a light, the original version below

    5575.jpg


    Below was presented as "evidence" of molten metal

    64b5851a6f8d255fd9602f0e8d2e0ce7.jpg

    The real image

    d95c5e1945f8bdf4c259bf13b3552709._.jpg

    It was burning paper

    d7a152881c54bdd799bac89466d34c34.jpg

    You see sparks from cutting steel. It then evaporates. It does not hang around and form a giant pond. Watch 8 minutes 15 seconds of your video for an example. Where the workers in the photographs? Can you point to where they are cutting the steel using a thermitic lance or acetylene torch?

    Second picture. Where did it come from? Lighting has changed in the second picture.

    It's is molten you can see a piece of steel that folded in half? What you even talking saying it just paper?


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    #2521
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,829 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »

    Second picture. Where did it come from? Lighting has changed in the second picture.

    It's a well known photo manipulated by truthers
    It's is molten you can see a piece of steel that folded in half? What you even talking saying it just paper?

    It's burning paper

    This is like debating with a religious type who sees images of jesus in everything


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