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troyzer · 21-02-2019 06:58AM

Neil3030 wrote: »

so a quick show of hands - ireland switching to left hand drive, yay or nay?

It's a bit late now but it would be a good idea.

Rigor Mortis · 21-02-2019 08:22AM

It wont happen but it would be great if it did

Podge_irl · 21-02-2019 08:51AM

Convenience aside, I think I prefer driving LHD at this point.

stephen_n · 21-02-2019 10:03AM

Neil3030 wrote: »

so a quick show of hands - ireland switching to left hand drive, yay or nay?

Could you imagine the amount of accidents in the first few months! Irish people can’t figure out roundabouts as it is.

Buer · 21-02-2019 10:30AM

I see Metro South is now being abandoned.

What do we want? Modern transport infrastructure serving a 21st century city!
When do we want it? Yesterday and make sure there's absolutely no disruption to anyone whatsoever in delivering it!

I regularly hear about the Luas being at maximum capacity and commuters complaining about the need to improve this service yet the inhabitants of the area (and the politicians, probably more accurately) have caused it to be ditched.

We are doomed to remain in a city that has transport services suitable for the 20th century (just about). Bus Connect, massive objections. Metro South, massive objections and being abandoned. Metro North, massive objections and the plan is having to be altered dramatically because a GAA club would be disrupted. No ground has been broken on any.

Podge_irl · 21-02-2019 10:35AM

I genuinely look forward to the near future when residents on the Green Line are completely incapable of getting on full trams and start complaining and they can be told to go **** themselves.

Zzippy · 21-02-2019 11:08AM

Ah lads, move to Galway. We've got none of that Luas hassle. Just sit in your nice warm car going nowhere in traffic for 2 hours a day instead! Simples!

awec · 21-02-2019 11:28AM

The misinformation from those **** at Rethink Metrolink hasn't helped.

This is a disaster for Dublin south.

The Luas in the mornings and evenings is a total **** show. It is only going to get worse. I think people will only wake up to this when commuters are being turned away from stations, or you have to start buying a special ticket to be able to get on the Luas at peak times. And when that happens, you can guarantee it'll be the same utter **** who blocked this who'll be screaming the loudest.

mfceiling · 21-02-2019 11:28AM

Traffic...What's that? Leave home at 6.20 and the spin in to town is relatively quiet. Leave work about 3.30 and it's a handy spin home leaving plenty of time to watch tipping point and have a quick game of nap roulette on the sofa. Be grand... Remember it's a bag of cans and not a bag of cant's.

Buer · 21-02-2019 11:39AM

awec wrote: »

And when that happens, you can guarantee it'll be the same utter **** who blocked this who'll be screaming the loudest.

Will it? I'll go out on a limb and say that those screaming the loudest right now don't actually use the Luas a huge amount. I would wager that they're more concerned about maintaining their area and property prices. And the politicians speaking out know full well that those running this campaign are the ones who have the highest voting turnout.

People don't want anything that is going to potentially detract from their area even temporarily whether it's a transport project or housing.

awec · 21-02-2019 11:46AM

Buer wrote: »

Will it? I'll go out on a limb and say that those screaming the loudest right now don't actually use the Luas a huge amount. I would wager that they're more concerned about maintaining their area and property prices. And the politicians speaking out know full well that those running this campaign are the ones who have the highest voting turnout.

People don't want anything that is going to potentially detract from their area even temporarily whether it's a transport project or housing.

Will you just let me rant?

I am glad I am moving away from the green LUAS.

21-02-2019 12:07PM

WFH all day erryday

Squidgy Black · 21-02-2019 12:19PM

I was out in Microsoft for a training course for the past couple days, was a horrible commute from the Northside as it was either M50, the eastlink which is mental in the mornings, or through town.

If the Luas line was extended further out than just running through Cabra or even have park and ride stations further over the Northside that makes it more feasible for us to infect the southsiders with our working class ideologies and bring down their housing prices.

Buer · 21-02-2019 12:22PM

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I was out in Microsoft for a training course for the past couple days, was a horrible commute from the Northside as it was either M50, the eastlink which is mental in the mornings, or through town.

Believe me when I say the M50 has been absolutely wonderful this week compared to how it normally is.

errlloyd · 21-02-2019 12:33PM

Squidgy Black wrote: »

If the Luas line was extended further out than just running through Cabra or even have park and ride stations further over the Northside that makes it more feasible for us to infect the southsiders with our working class ideologies and bring down their housing prices.

Tbh the luas is pretty glacial through town. I don't think you'd want to commute much further than Cabra - Sandyford on it, but I guess there are a few ways you can.

From Clonsilla you could get the Maynooth train to Broombridge and then switch to green line. From Killester you could get the Dart to Connnolly then go Red Line (or walk) and then Green Line.

From Skerries you'd get the Connolly train and connect the same way.

I haven't fully looked at what impact heavier rail would have on the suburbs. Is it possible that without upgrading the track or whatever we could get an increased Luas service as far as Charlemont (with a new terminus being built there). It seems sort of crazy to me that we have the same number of trams going through college green per hour as we have on the mostly dedicated Sandyford - Charlemont stretch.

thomond2006 · 21-02-2019 12:44PM

A trip on LCC in town seems to be a waste of money to me. I don't think it's much faster versus walking on a short trip like Parnell to Dawson St.

Buer · 21-02-2019 12:47PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

A trip on LCC in town seems to be a waste of money to me. I don't think it's much faster versus walking on a short trip like Parnell to Dawson St.

It isn't and it won't be until they remove private vehicles from the city centre.

Which they won't do until they improve public transport.

Which the won't do until they remove private vehicles.

Which they won't do until they improve public transport.

Which they won't ......

thomond2006 · 21-02-2019 12:49PM

Shut up Buer and get the feckin' Crunchies outta the car.

errlloyd · 21-02-2019 12:51PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

A trip on LCC in town seems to be a waste of money to me. I don't think it's much faster versus walking on a short trip like Parnell to Dawson St.

I work in the IFSC by Connolly and live in Charlemont. So getting a Green Line to O'Connell and Switching to a red line to Connolly gets me pretty much door to door. It's a 35 minute walk, and around a 25 minute Luas Journey if I don't end up waiting too long and I can do it in line 15 on a Dublin bike. I tend to switch it up between them depending on the weather.

Last night I was going home from Malborough Luas and it was gonna be a 10 minute wait, so I walked it. I think the tram beat me to Harcourt by about 2 minutes. The main advantage on the luas is I can post on boards on my way to work. Harder to do that walking.

:)

awec · 21-02-2019 01:08PM

Luas Cross City is definitely faster than walking.

Neil3030 · 21-02-2019 10:48PM

troyzer wrote: »

It's a bit late now but it would be a good idea.

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

It wont happen but it would be great if it did

Podge_irl wrote: »

Convenience aside, I think I prefer driving LHD at this point.

Would cars become any cheaper for consumers? Imports would become possible from mainland Europe/USA - sure there's VRT to contend with, but I can soon see RHD production slowing down globally post Brexit.

troyzer · 21-02-2019 10:54PM

Neil3030 wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

It's a bit late now but it would be a good idea.

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

It wont happen but it would be great if it did

Podge_irl wrote: »

Convenience aside, I think I prefer driving LHD at this point.

Would cars become any cheaper for consumers? Imports would become possible from mainland Europe/USA - sure there's VRT to contend with, but I can soon see RHD production slowing down globally post Brexit.

As far as I know it's not that much more expensive on a per unit basis to produce RHD but when you're talking about massive factories, 1% gains here and there makes the difference. Anybody who's played that factory simulator game on Steam knows the craic.

There will always be a glut of RHD cars from Europe. Over a third of the planet uses RHD and they're mostly countries which are growing rapidly.

The trend is likely to actually increase towards RHD as Southern Africa and the Indian subcontinent get their **** together.

errlloyd · 21-02-2019 11:14PM

Why would we bother? You know how hard it is to overtake when you're in a LHD care on the left side of the road. If we switched to driving on the right we'd need to change all our road infrastructure and we still have a border with a Britain.

If Malta hasn't bothered changing we shouldn't.

Synode · 21-02-2019 11:17PM

Where's this news that the green line upgrade is being cancelled coming from? Heard Shane Ross in the Dail on the news and all he said was he wouldn't countenance the green line being closed for 4 years. Which it never would have been.

Cancelling it would be really really stupid. They can't be that thick can they

Rigor Mortis · 22-02-2019 09:07AM

troyzer wrote: »

As far as I know it's not that much more expensive on a per unit basis to produce RHD but when you're talking about massive factories, 1% gains here and there makes the difference. Anybody who's played that factory simulator game on Steam knows the craic.

There will always be a glut of RHD cars from Europe. Over a third of the planet uses RHD and they're mostly countries which are growing rapidly.

The trend is likely to actually increase towards RHD as Southern Africa and the Indian subcontinent get their **** together.

Not quite true. Some marques, particularly in the commercial end don’t get built in RHD. New innovations can come a Little slower to RHD.

dregin · 22-02-2019 09:08AM

Anyone flown Dublin - London with an infant?

Didn't realise how far the airports are out of the city. Taxis are pricey and not sure about public transport with a 5 month old.

I really, really want to fly into Heathrow and just tube it, but the other half has different ideas.

stephen_n · 22-02-2019 09:10AM

Synode wrote: »

Cancelling it would be really really stupid. They can't be that thick can they

That’s a bit of a stupid question.

troyzer · 22-02-2019 09:11AM

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

Not quite true. Some marques, particularly in the commercial end don’t get built in RHD. New innovations can come a Little slower to RHD.

There will always be exception in the niché market of course. A lot of Japanese cars aren't available in LHD for example but you're right that LHD countries do get a better selection.

dregin wrote: »

Anyone flown Dublin - London with an infant?

Didn't realise how far the airports are out of the city. Taxis are pricey and not sure about public transport with a 5 month old.

I really, really want to fly into Heathrow and just tube it, but the other half has different ideas.

Luton is absolutely fine. So is Gatwick.

In terms of getting into the city that is.

dregin · 22-02-2019 09:13AM

troyzer wrote: »

There will always be exception in the niché market of course. A lot of Japanese cars aren't available in LHD for example but you're right that LHD countries do get a better selection.

Luton is absolutely fine. So is Gatwick.

In terms of getting into the city that is.

haha yeah, sorry. Hit the wrong button.

The airport isn't really what concerns me. Getting form there to NW10 is where my confusion lies. Car rental, taxi, public transport?

BBDBB · 22-02-2019 09:14AM

dregin wrote: »

Anyone flown Dublin - London with an infant?

Didn't realise how far the airports are out of the city. Taxis are pricey and not sure about public transport with a 5 month old.

I really, really want to fly into Heathrow and just tube it, but the other half has different ideas.

Trains called the Gatwick Express go into London Victoria every 15 minutes, journey takes about half an hour

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