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awec

troyzer wrote: »

I'm a bit ignorant to all of this. My part of Dublin isn't in South Dublin so naturally I don't get any decent public transport.

But it does seem absolutely bananas to me that you'd tear up a track that cost nearly €1bn.

They aren’t tearing up the track. The track itself doesn’t need to be touched, it was built to be upgraded to a metro.

They need to raise the platforms of the stations cause metro trains are higher from the ground, the overhead cabling needs to be changed and the track needs to be joined up to the metro underground around charlemont.

troyzer

I'm a bit ignorant to all of this. My part of Dublin isn't in South Dublin so naturally I don't get any decent public transport.

But it does seem absolutely bananas to me that you'd tear up a track that cost nearly €1bn.

Podge_irl

Synode wrote: »

Where's this news that the green line upgrade is being cancelled coming from? Heard Shane Ross in the Dail on the news and all he said was he wouldn't countenance the green line being closed for 4 years. Which it never would have been.

Cancelling it would be really really stupid. They can't be that thick can they

Being reported in the Irish Times though not confirmed yet. The amount of lies and hysteria around the project - a huge amount of which is being pushed by the IT itself - is really disappointing. Between this and Bus Connect the IT has shown itself to have a massive, massive anti-public transport slant.

Podge_irl

dregin wrote: »

haha yeah, sorry. Hit the wrong button.

The airport isn't really what concerns me. Getting form there to NW10 is where my confusion lies. Car rental, taxi, public transport?

Fly into Heathrow and get the Heathrow Connect to Paddington. Do not get the Express - wildly overpriced and saves you about 10 min. It goes from the same place but the Connect just works with an Oyster card.

BBDBB

Dont know, depends on the baby I suppose.
Theres usually sufficient room for pushchairs and luggage etc
It may be one of the FAQ on their website?

dregin

BBDBB wrote: »

Trains called the Gatwick Express go into London Victoria every 15 minutes, journey takes about half an hour

How's it with a baby? I've done London countless times myself, but this will be a first with kid on board.

BBDBB

dregin wrote: »

Anyone flown Dublin - London with an infant?

Didn't realise how far the airports are out of the city. Taxis are pricey and not sure about public transport with a 5 month old.

I really, really want to fly into Heathrow and just tube it, but the other half has different ideas.

Trains called the Gatwick Express go into London Victoria every 15 minutes, journey takes about half an hour

dregin

troyzer wrote: »

There will always be exception in the niché market of course. A lot of Japanese cars aren't available in LHD for example but you're right that LHD countries do get a better selection.

Luton is absolutely fine. So is Gatwick.

In terms of getting into the city that is.

haha yeah, sorry. Hit the wrong button.

The airport isn't really what concerns me. Getting form there to NW10 is where my confusion lies. Car rental, taxi, public transport?

troyzer

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

Not quite true. Some marques, particularly in the commercial end don’t get built in RHD. New innovations can come a Little slower to RHD.

There will always be exception in the niché market of course. A lot of Japanese cars aren't available in LHD for example but you're right that LHD countries do get a better selection.

dregin wrote: »

Anyone flown Dublin - London with an infant?

Didn't realise how far the airports are out of the city. Taxis are pricey and not sure about public transport with a 5 month old.

I really, really want to fly into Heathrow and just tube it, but the other half has different ideas.

Luton is absolutely fine. So is Gatwick.

In terms of getting into the city that is.

stephen_n

Synode wrote: »

Cancelling it would be really really stupid. They can't be that thick can they

That’s a bit of a stupid question.

dregin

Anyone flown Dublin - London with an infant?

Didn't realise how far the airports are out of the city. Taxis are pricey and not sure about public transport with a 5 month old.

I really, really want to fly into Heathrow and just tube it, but the other half has different ideas.

Rigor Mortis

troyzer wrote: »

As far as I know it's not that much more expensive on a per unit basis to produce RHD but when you're talking about massive factories, 1% gains here and there makes the difference. Anybody who's played that factory simulator game on Steam knows the craic.

There will always be a glut of RHD cars from Europe. Over a third of the planet uses RHD and they're mostly countries which are growing rapidly.

The trend is likely to actually increase towards RHD as Southern Africa and the Indian subcontinent get their **** together.

Not quite true. Some marques, particularly in the commercial end don’t get built in RHD. New innovations can come a Little slower to RHD.

Synode

Where's this news that the green line upgrade is being cancelled coming from? Heard Shane Ross in the Dail on the news and all he said was he wouldn't countenance the green line being closed for 4 years. Which it never would have been.

Cancelling it would be really really stupid. They can't be that thick can they

errlloyd

Why would we bother? You know how hard it is to overtake when you're in a LHD care on the left side of the road. If we switched to driving on the right we'd need to change all our road infrastructure and we still have a border with a Britain.

If Malta hasn't bothered changing we shouldn't.

troyzer

Neil3030 wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

It's a bit late now but it would be a good idea.

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

It wont happen but it would be great if it did

Podge_irl wrote: »

Convenience aside, I think I prefer driving LHD at this point.

Would cars become any cheaper for consumers? Imports would become possible from mainland Europe/USA - sure there's VRT to contend with, but I can soon see RHD production slowing down globally post Brexit.

As far as I know it's not that much more expensive on a per unit basis to produce RHD but when you're talking about massive factories, 1% gains here and there makes the difference. Anybody who's played that factory simulator game on Steam knows the craic.

There will always be a glut of RHD cars from Europe. Over a third of the planet uses RHD and they're mostly countries which are growing rapidly.

The trend is likely to actually increase towards RHD as Southern Africa and the Indian subcontinent get their **** together.

Neil3030

troyzer wrote: »

It's a bit late now but it would be a good idea.

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

It wont happen but it would be great if it did

Podge_irl wrote: »

Convenience aside, I think I prefer driving LHD at this point.

Would cars become any cheaper for consumers? Imports would become possible from mainland Europe/USA - sure there's VRT to contend with, but I can soon see RHD production slowing down globally post Brexit.

awec

Luas Cross City is definitely faster than walking.

errlloyd

thomond2006 wrote: »

A trip on LCC in town seems to be a waste of money to me. I don't think it's much faster versus walking on a short trip like Parnell to Dawson St.

I work in the IFSC by Connolly and live in Charlemont. So getting a Green Line to O'Connell and Switching to a red line to Connolly gets me pretty much door to door. It's a 35 minute walk, and around a 25 minute Luas Journey if I don't end up waiting too long and I can do it in line 15 on a Dublin bike. I tend to switch it up between them depending on the weather.

Last night I was going home from Malborough Luas and it was gonna be a 10 minute wait, so I walked it. I think the tram beat me to Harcourt by about 2 minutes. The main advantage on the luas is I can post on boards on my way to work. Harder to do that walking.

thomond2006

Shut up Buer and get the feckin' Crunchies outta the car.

Buer

thomond2006 wrote: »

A trip on LCC in town seems to be a waste of money to me. I don't think it's much faster versus walking on a short trip like Parnell to Dawson St.

It isn't and it won't be until they remove private vehicles from the city centre.

Which they won't do until they improve public transport.

Which the won't do until they remove private vehicles.

Which they won't do until they improve public transport.

Which they won't ......

thomond2006

A trip on LCC in town seems to be a waste of money to me. I don't think it's much faster versus walking on a short trip like Parnell to Dawson St.

errlloyd

Squidgy Black wrote: »

If the Luas line was extended further out than just running through Cabra or even have park and ride stations further over the Northside that makes it more feasible for us to infect the southsiders with our working class ideologies and bring down their housing prices.

Tbh the luas is pretty glacial through town. I don't think you'd want to commute much further than Cabra - Sandyford on it, but I guess there are a few ways you can.

From Clonsilla you could get the Maynooth train to Broombridge and then switch to green line. From Killester you could get the Dart to Connnolly then go Red Line (or walk) and then Green Line.

From Skerries you'd get the Connolly train and connect the same way.

I haven't fully looked at what impact heavier rail would have on the suburbs. Is it possible that without upgrading the track or whatever we could get an increased Luas service as far as Charlemont (with a new terminus being built there). It seems sort of crazy to me that we have the same number of trams going through college green per hour as we have on the mostly dedicated Sandyford - Charlemont stretch.

Buer

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I was out in Microsoft for a training course for the past couple days, was a horrible commute from the Northside as it was either M50, the eastlink which is mental in the mornings, or through town.

Believe me when I say the M50 has been absolutely wonderful this week compared to how it normally is.

Squidgy Black

I was out in Microsoft for a training course for the past couple days, was a horrible commute from the Northside as it was either M50, the eastlink which is mental in the mornings, or through town.

If the Luas line was extended further out than just running through Cabra or even have park and ride stations further over the Northside that makes it more feasible for us to infect the southsiders with our working class ideologies and bring down their housing prices.

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WFH all day erryday

awec

Buer wrote: »

Will it? I'll go out on a limb and say that those screaming the loudest right now don't actually use the Luas a huge amount. I would wager that they're more concerned about maintaining their area and property prices. And the politicians speaking out know full well that those running this campaign are the ones who have the highest voting turnout.

People don't want anything that is going to potentially detract from their area even temporarily whether it's a transport project or housing.

Will you just let me rant?

I am glad I am moving away from the green LUAS.

Buer

awec wrote: »

And when that happens, you can guarantee it'll be the same utter **** who blocked this who'll be screaming the loudest.

Will it? I'll go out on a limb and say that those screaming the loudest right now don't actually use the Luas a huge amount. I would wager that they're more concerned about maintaining their area and property prices. And the politicians speaking out know full well that those running this campaign are the ones who have the highest voting turnout.

People don't want anything that is going to potentially detract from their area even temporarily whether it's a transport project or housing.

mfceiling

Traffic...What's that? Leave home at 6.20 and the spin in to town is relatively quiet. Leave work about 3.30 and it's a handy spin home leaving plenty of time to watch tipping point and have a quick game of nap roulette on the sofa. Be grand... Remember it's a bag of cans and not a bag of cant's.

awec

The misinformation from those **** at Rethink Metrolink hasn't helped.

This is a disaster for Dublin south.

The Luas in the mornings and evenings is a total **** show. It is only going to get worse. I think people will only wake up to this when commuters are being turned away from stations, or you have to start buying a special ticket to be able to get on the Luas at peak times. And when that happens, you can guarantee it'll be the same utter **** who blocked this who'll be screaming the loudest.

Zzippy

Ah lads, move to Galway. We've got none of that Luas hassle. Just sit in your nice warm car going nowhere in traffic for 2 hours a day instead! Simples!