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The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

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  • #5942
    hooch-85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    True, the main difference between a GTD and a 150 would be the suspension upgrades and XDS diff. They are a different car after a remap though, but you could say the same about GTi, i've been in a revo'd tuned PP GTI and it was very impressive.


  • #5943
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    theintern wrote: »
    Drove a GTD today and while it's a lovely car, it really isn't much of a step up performance wise from the 150 2.0L diesel. It made my mind up to go for the GTI.

    To be honest, I'm not sure I'd recommend someone pay the premium for the GTD over the 2.0L, the extra 34bhp are hard to notice.

    Did you drive them both back to back?

    Judging how fast a car is in isolation isn't easy. I've often thought a car felt not very fast but then get back into a less powerful car and that's when you see the difference.


  • #5944
    vintagevrs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    hooch-85 wrote: »
    True, the main difference between a GTD and a 150 would be the suspension upgrades and XDS diff. They are a different car after a remap though, but you could say the same about GTi, i've been in a revo'd tuned PP GTI and it was very impressive.

    From memory the xds isn't a diff at all. More of a traction control type affair that nips the brakes on the wheel with less grip to transfer the torque to the other wheel. It's an inefficient way of doing it as you're trying to accelerate and the car is nipping the brake at one of your wheels.


  • #5945
    hooch-85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    vintagevrs wrote: »
    From memory the xds isn't a diff at all. More of a traction control type affair that nips the brakes on the wheel with less grip to transfer the torque to the other wheel. It's an inefficient way of doing it as you're trying to accelerate and the car is nipping the brake at one of your wheels.

    Yeah it's not an actual diff, similar to the torque vectoring in the Ford STs. It worked really well in the Fiesta I had. It definitely does help with traction.


  • #5946
    theintern
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭theintern


    Lance Tall Beagle wrote: »
    Did you drive them both back to back?

    Judging how fast a car is in isolation isn't easy. I've often thought a car felt not very fast but then get back into a less powerful car and that's when you see the difference.

    Hopped out of my own 2.0L and into the GTD, then home in the 2.0L so yep, back to back to back :)

    Don't get me wrong, it felt different, nice handling through the corners and a small bit more pep. But the engine response felt very very similar in both.


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  • #5947
    dastardly00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,561 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    While a lot of posters here on this thread have since moved on from a GTI/GTD/R, I have just very recently joined the club. I picked up the keys to a new GTI a few days ago :):):)

    I've wanted a GTI for a long time... I first posted in this thread almost three years ago saying so! :D I've been driving a '06 Focus 1.4 for the last five years (:o) and whilst upgrading it was always at the forefront of my mind, I could never think of an alternative other than a GTI that I would be satisfied with. It was an itch that I just had to scratch. My job circumstances changed late last year which gave me the green light to pursue a GTI. My plan was to buy a 1-3 year old MK 7/7.5 with the major requirements being that it had DSG and it wasn't white. The standard Milton Keynes alloys were a non-runner also. There were very, very few cars on sale in Ireland that matched my criteria, and I wasn't comfortable importing from the UK.

    So I realised that getting a brand new car was actually the option I would be happiest with. Two weeks ago I went into my local VW dealership and specc'd up the car I wanted and all was good... until I was told that it would take 18 weeks :eek: I just couldn't bear to wait that long so the salesman checked the GTI stock in the country and he found one that ticked most of my boxes (DSG, not white, 19" wheels, Tech pack). I was more than happy to take this car, especially since I would get it so soon. There were a few extras that I had wanted, but I decided I could live without them.

    Fast forward to today, and after ~600 km of driving, I am a very, very happy man :) The car is magic, it's everything I could have wished for... and more! I know I'm coming from a '06 Focus 1.4 and pretty much anything new would feel great, but the GTI really is something else. I've had such a smile on my face each time I sit into the car and turn on the engine. The power, grip and acceleration is astonishing.

    I know in about 12-18 months time the Mk 8 GTI will probably be out so people might wonder why did I not wait until then. Again, given the car that I was coming from, I just couldn't bear to wait any longer.

    I would like to say a MASSIVE thanks to JoeA3 for all his advice and knowledge over the last few weeks. He's given me a lot of help and I am very grateful; he's a gent.

    And finally... this is my 10,000th post (it's a pure coincidence I swear!) :D :pac:


  • #5948
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Wailin


    Love reading posts like this! Well wear, great car.


  • #5949
    JoeA3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,554 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    You'll have to post a few pics now and not keep everyone else in suspense :pac:


  • #5950
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,480 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Pics or it didn't happen :)


  • #5951
    dastardly00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,561 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    You'll have to post a few pics now and not keep everyone else in suspense :pac:
    DaveyDave wrote: »
    Pics or it didn't happen :)

    Okay, okay, okay... :pac:

    I only have a few crappy quality photos of the car; I was planning on taking some good quality ones but the outside of the car is now filthy after all the driving done over the weekend! :D

    Here ye go:

    473450.jpg

    I will take some decent photos when she's clean again and post them!


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  • #5952
    vintagevrs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    That looks the business, enjoy! I am a little out of the loop now on the options on these but am I right in saying that it's a performance pack model? saying that based on the red details, also think the non pp isn't available anymore but I might have made that up.

    I think the GTI PP is the pick out of the range, including the R.


  • #5953
    JoeA3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,554 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    yeah, its the PP. I don't think you can get a non-PP now, they've discontinued it.


  • #5954
    hooch-85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    Now that's a car! Well wear, looks a brilliant spec and a class colour.


  • #5955
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,480 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Looks well :) I like the red accents against the blue. It's too bad the Brescia isn't standard for the PP.


  • #5956
    SaintsYB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭SaintsYB


    That's some spec! Well wear!


  • #5957
    Roger Mellie Man on the Telly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭Roger Mellie Man on the Telly


    Lovely car health to enjoy!


  • #5958
    Hebegeebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭Hebegeebee


    Well wear dastardly. What’s the full spec?


  • #5959
    ILikeBoats
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    dastardly00 wrote: »
    Here ye go:

    473450.jpg

    I love this.

    Might do what you did and say I'll get one and come back when I do :D


  • #5960
    dastardly00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,561 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Hebegeebee wrote: »
    Well wear dastardly. What’s the full spec?

    It's the 245 bhp PP version (the non-PP has been discontinued), it's DSG and it has the 19" Brescia wheels and the tech/winter pack. The colour is Atlantic Blue Metallic.

    If I was going to wait the 18+ weeks for a factory order... I would have got Dynamic/Adaptive Chassis Control, and maybe the Honeycomb cloth seats.

    I would also have chosen Indium Grey metallic... but I'm so happy I have the Atlantic Blue metallic; I absolutely love it. It's a lot different in the flesh compared to the colour on the VW Configurator.


  • #5961
    Muppet Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    Well wear Dastardly - bring it to Coffee and Cars and share the new car smell. Colour Looks awesome but as you say no picture does it justice. That new car feeling/smell is hard to beat. Its a huge step up for you. Well done mate.


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  • #5962
    tossy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭tossy


    Well wear Dastardly , i love that colour - well wear. I recently joined the mk7 club myself and loving it.


  • #5963
    MarkN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭MarkN


    Lovely job!


  • #5964
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,792 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    This author is usually very well informed. some info on mark 8 gti

    https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/volkswagen/vw-golf-gti-mk8-whats-in-store-for-2019s-hot-hatch/


  • #5965
    SaintsYB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭SaintsYB


    Not sure about the front end in that mock-up. Those red bits that come back around would look better in black I think, similar to the current Golf.


  • #5966
    ChuckLarry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭ChuckLarry


    Have seen some other preview pictures and really not into the new style of headlights (if they end up looking like the pictures)


  • #5967
    dastardly00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,561 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    I noticed that the GTI TCR is available on the Irish VW configurator now


  • #5968
    JoeA3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,554 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    This author is usually very well informed. some info on mark 8 gti

    https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/volkswagen/vw-golf-gti-mk8-whats-in-store-for-2019s-hot-hatch/

    That’s mostly speculation.
    I know VW invited some employees to a preview of the car recently and by all accounts it doesn’t look much like that. It’s a very slight evolution of the current car... one thing confirmed is that the door mirrors are moved down onto the door skin (like the Arteon) and a some Polo-like creases down the flanks.

    There’s a couple of spy shots of the heavily disguised cars doing the rounds.


  • #5969
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,028 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    dastardly00 wrote: »
    I noticed that the GTI TCR is available on the Irish VW configurator now

    It's way too close to the R in price. It's the kinda car that should be available with a manual box and handbrake.
    Stage 1 map on a PP and there would be nothing between them only a lot of money.


  • #5970
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,792 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    That’s mostly speculation.
    I know VW invited some employees to a preview of the car recently and by all accounts it doesn’t look much like that. It’s a very slight evolution of the current car... one thing confirmed is that the door mirrors are moved down onto the door skin (like the Arteon) and a some Polo-like creases down the flanks.

    There’s a couple of spy shots of the heavily disguised cars doing the rounds.

    That guy Georg Kacher usually is spot on with his facts though whatever about the artist impressions.
    I wouldn’t be mad about the fog lights as described and surprised the base gti horsepower is not higher.


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  • #5971
    Mickiemcfist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    This author is usually very well informed. some info on mark 8 gti

    https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/volkswagen/vw-golf-gti-mk8-whats-in-store-for-2019s-hot-hatch/

    Gotta say I'm not a fan, to me it looks like an evolution of the old seat ibiza from behind

    800px-2004_SEAT_Ibiza_SX_1.2_Rear.jpg?1550740849280


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