The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

Max Q

OSI wrote: »

I call bull for the simple fact the radar isn't integrated into the badge in those images.

Also, the Golf performance models have dropped the Golf logo on the boot ever since the mk5 and on..

Wailin

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

Gotta say I'm not a fan, to me it looks like an evolution of the old seat ibiza from behind

Looks pretty much like a facelifted MK VII to me.

st332

https://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/first-drive-why-and-how-the-new-290ps-golf-gti-tcr-will-leave-you-breathless-37761080.html

Article says "only" 20 scheduled for Ireland; seems like a decent number for an expensive and niche model.
Must find an excuse to take one for a test drive!

Anthonylfc

driving a 2007 passat 1.6 115hp since 2010 ( kids came along )

now i've 20k or bit more to spend on a new car

i'm thinking between GTD or GTD

mileage i do is prob 15km a year ( finglas - swords ) surrounding areas

i want speed and comfort

GTD might be lighter on insurance than the GTI

i'm in 2 minds

somebody please sell me the idea of which one to buy as im indecisive :pac::pac:

Mickiemcfist

Anthonylfc wrote: »

driving a 2007 passat 1.6 115hp since 2010 ( kids came along )

now i've 20k or bit more to spend on a new car

i'm thinking between GTD or GTD

mileage i do is prob 15km a year ( finglas - swords ) surrounding areas

i want speed and comfort

GTD might be lighter on insurance than the GTI

i'm in 2 minds

somebody please sell me the idea of which one to buy as im indecisive :pac::pac:

15k a year, go for the GTI. Mileage isn't near high enough for a diesel.

drunkmonkey

The GTI will cost you €1700 in fuel doing 15k a year and having fun. That's a manual.

hooch-85

Yeah at that mileage I would go GTi. Depending on your age, there is very little difference between them insurance wise.

Anthonylfc

hooch-85 wrote: »

Yeah at that mileage I would go GTi. Depending on your age, there is very little difference between them insurance wise.

38

full clean driving licence

i've been putting €50 a week easily into my passat so happy you think gti is less

but even if its the same or slightly more thats all good

want something fun

theintern

Anthonylfc wrote: »

38

full clean driving licence

i've been putting €50 a week easily into my passat so happy you think gti is less

but even if its the same or slightly more thats all good

want something fun

I'm in a similar boat to you, and everything I've read says go for the GTI. The GTD is a lovely car, and has a fair bit of poke (have driven it) but apparently the GTI is another league. Unless you're doing double that in mileage the advice seems to be go for the GTI.

ChuckLarry

Anthonylfc wrote: »

38

full clean driving licence

i've been putting €50 a week easily into my passat so happy you think gti is less

but even if its the same or slightly more thats all good

want something fun

If your putting €50 a week easily into a 1.6tdi your doing more than 15k a year, or is your commute going to change soon?

I’ve a 1.6tdi golf, I know the Passat is heavier but roughly the same, I do 15-20k a year and wouldn’t go anywhere near €50 a week with it..

Personally having been doing about 15k a year in a Gti for many years (and mostly long trips at that) I think its well into GTD territory as you go through a lot of petrol even on 15k a year. Especially when I started doing the same tip for a few months in 1.6tdi and saw the vast difference (I know GTD would be somewhere in the middle). I was going to change the Gti to a GTD every year for years and just never got around to it. The Gti really devours petrol in traffic too.

SaintsYB

ChuckLarry wrote: »

If your putting €50 a week easily into a 1.6tdi your doing more than 15k a year, or is your commute going to change soon?

Not necessarily. If you're doing town driving, stop/start driving is going to cause you to have terrible MPG regardless of petrol or diesel.

ChuckLarry

SaintsYB wrote: »

Not necessarily. If you're doing town driving, stop/start driving is going to cause you to have terrible MPG regardless of petrol or diesel.

Fair enough that probably came across wrong, I was comparing my own 1.6tdi on similar mileage and €50 could would sometimes see me a month.

Assuming the OPs driving style doesn’t change surely he’s looking at a higher fuel bill from a larger petrol engine?

Then factor in the novelty of the extra horsepower for the first month or two

SaintsYB

ChuckLarry wrote: »

Fair enough that probably came across wrong, I was comparing my own 1.6tdi on similar mileage and €50 could would sometimes see me a month.

Assuming the OPs driving style doesn’t change surely he’s looking at a higher fuel bill from a larger petrol engine?

Then factor in the novelty of the extra horsepower for the first month or two

Yeah, you'd expect it to rise somewhat at least but not a huge amount over what it currently costs him. My 116d would sort me for about a week and a half on €50 but I do 25,000km p/y.

easyvision

Even in horrendous traffic i get 35-40mpg in the GTD, would def be below that in a GTI. I do maybe 30km a year, would love a GTI, dunno if I could justify double fuel expense, but would love a GTI DSG. at 120-130km/h your looking at 50-52mpg in sport mode on GTD. I doubt a GTI at that speed would come that close? Mind you prob feels faster acceleration wise, just don't know if I want to spend double in fuel long term and more tax, more for insurance for me, Im 28

bazz26

Imo if OP is that worried about fuel costs then go with the GTD otherwise OP just won't enjoy the GTi as much.

I’d struggle to average 25mpg in the Gti if driving exclusively in heavy traffic.

drunkmonkey

Yea it'll be thirsty if stuck in traffic, how'd the new fiesta st fair in traffic?

everlast75

My own tuppence worth is I bought the GTD and had GTi envy within 6 months.

Ended up swapping.

It turned out I had a GTi itch I needed scratching.

Go for a long test drive in both.

Worry about the fuel later.

dmigsy

Lance Tall Beagle wrote: »

I’d struggle to average 25mpg in the Gti if driving exclusively in heavy traffic.

My R is the same.

hooch-85

I'm doing 30k a year so I faced the music and bought the GTD, would i have went for a GTi if i was doing half that, without a doubt. I average around 45mpg in mine. The GTD is a fine car and plenty quick (especially after a tune) but it's missing that "je ne sais quoi" that you only get from a petrol engine. I had a Fiesta ST before it and I miss the way I used to wring the neck off it.

Anthonylfc

ChuckLarry wrote: »

If your putting €50 a week easily into a 1.6tdi your doing more than 15k a year, or is your commute going to change soon?

I’ve a 1.6tdi golf, I know the Passat is heavier but roughly the same, I do 15-20k a year and wouldn’t go anywhere near €50 a week with it..

i have a 1.6 fsi not tdi

Anthonylfc

looking at new ones in uk and here

wtf are we paying €5000 more here

**** screwing us all the time

even with currency converter its €5000 diff

SaintsYB

Anthonylfc wrote: »

looking at new ones in uk and here

wtf are we paying €5000 more here

**** screwing us all the time

even with currency converter its €5000 diff

VRT.

Anthonylfc

SaintsYB wrote: »

VRT.

i gathered that

but its aload of bollix isn't it

always getting shafted

SaintsYB

Anthonylfc wrote: »

i gathered that

but its aload of bollix isn't it

always getting shafted

Oh it's a complete joke. It's not likely to change though, is it?

DaveyDave

Anyone reckon the Leon Cupra will get some love now that the standard GTI is gone? It's not on the Seat configurator so I don't know the spec but the UK model seems to have the usual stuff like digital dash, LED headlights etc. I believe DCC is also standard.

The Leon looks a bit soft/round looking compared to the Golf but seeing it in videos it's not too bad. Alcantara on the door cards and everything. Looks well.

290hp for €40k vs 245kp for €44k, also currently 0% vs 1.9% to save a few quid again.

Ionised

DaveyDave wrote:

Anyone reckon the Leon Cupra will get some love now that the standard GTI is gone?

Mine gets lots of love.
It was a bit of a toss up between Cupra and Gti but the standard kit (especially Dcc) along with the price difference swung it. No regrets at all.

Anthonylfc

DaveyDave wrote: »

Anyone reckon the Leon Cupra will get some love now that the standard GTI is gone? It's not on the Seat configurator so I don't know the spec but the UK model seems to have the usual stuff like digital dash, LED headlights etc. I believe DCC is also standard.

The Leon looks a bit soft/round looking compared to the Golf but seeing it in videos it's not too bad. Alcantara on the door cards and everything. Looks well.

290hp for €40k vs 245kp for €44k, also currently 0% vs 1.9% to save a few quid again.

yeh fooking what when

what on earth do you mean , you telling me gti is gone ?

Mickiemcfist

Anthonylfc wrote: »

yeh fooking what when

what on earth do you mean , you telling me gti is gone ?

Until the MK8 you can only buy GTI PP's, TCR & Golf R's I think. The GTI still exists.