Lesbian transgender couple declares their plan to transition their 5-year-old son

Louis Theroux did a documentary featuring cases like this. It came across that the parents were driving it and it was at best very unclear whether the kids were actually tg at all.

Five is too young to assess something like this. The fact the parents have spoken to the press about it does not reflect positively wrt their motivation.

mvl wrote: »

And were any of the cases presented having regrets later in life for being encouraged towards it, or were all the cases presented too recent (so effects would be seen later) ?

There are hundreds (thousands?) of videos on Youtube from detransitioners. Just search detransitioning.
These are young people who made their choice to trans usually in mid to late teens, so I don't know about younger kids.
Studies have shown minimum 70% of trans teens have experienced childhood adversity. There is exceptional comorbidity (70 - 90%) of transgenderism with anxiety, depression, autism.
The Tumblr trans ghetto has had a big effect on teenagers. ROGD.

The effects of hormones on the children is stark when you watch timeline videos - astonishing transformations take place. The effects of T, as the transmen call it, (testosterone) on the teen girls body is exceptionally strong - and many are finding now that when they detransition after several years taking T they are left with the increased body hair, deeper voices, masculinised face and body shape and male pattern baldness. These changes seem to last even years after detrans and may be life long which leads to considerable new dysphoria.

It is worth noting that some of the youtube celebrity transwomen like Blaire White for example, have not only used hormones, but have also enough money to access plastic surgeries, so their level of passing as female is not available to most. Another example would be Jenna Talackova, who has also had significant facial feminisation surgery - most people cannot ever aspire to that kind of investment, so they are being presented with pipe dreams.



Anyways, I'll stop there.

When I was 5 I wanted to be Big Bird from Sesame Street. If it was like then what it's like now then I'd probably have feathers surgically implanted.

I felt like a fairy as a child. To be honest, I still do. The shee/sidhe kind now, not the...oh, never mind.

People sometimes say, oh they knew from 4 or 5 that they felt like a girl (if a boy) or like a boy (if a girl). But this presupposes that girls or boys feel like something definable. Which is extremely conservative. It is such a deeply square, limited and retrograde idea that I find it laughable that it is left wing thought.

This born in the wrong body idea is a deeply destabilising idea - no one is, they may feel more feminine if a boy (and vice versa), but so damn what, let them be uber feminine/masculine, what is the fricking problem?

If people were left to feel and live and fully express as masculine in female bodies and feminine in male bodies - to the nth degree and without hideous and damaging medical intervention - then they would still be fertile, have fully functioning sex organs, have no difficulty with potency, have lovely orgasms with no difficulty, and so on.

Instead we have this dreadful drastic interference in the human form on the basis that feeling masculine means you HAVE to have a fascimile of a male body, and feeling feminine means you HAVE to have a fascimile of a female body. You absolutely do not. Loosen up, you 'progressive' squares!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Yes. And....?

If he wants to play in a dress,, so what...?

Again: I'm against any permanent or formal change, and definitely against any parental ciersion.

People saying that five year olds shouldnt get to make choices are complaining beacuse their under the impression that the five year old ISN'T getting to choose - he's being forced into the gender role according to them!!

(At least according to the OP: nor according to the story, which no one seems to have bothered reading)

What? You're the one who doesn't appear to have read the article. As said numerous times, it's not the child wearing dresses, it's his parents planning to transition him as soon as possible. One of the parents is even using female pronouns regarding the child already.

Wearing dresses at five does not necessarily mean he's trans. Why does this even have to be explained?

Also telling someone they seem closed-minded, as you did on the basis of one post (a post which was not written in a hostile manner at all) makes you look closed-minded also. Not every liberal outlook is a positive - and a person can have their reservations about it without being a closed-minded individual.