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Sean O'Rourke Today Show

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    #5492
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,562 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    jeremyj1968 wrote: »
    Ridiculously biased "reporting" from Ellen Coyne. You could tell her disdain for the man bringing around the ultrasounds to the abortion clinics. Why would anybody going for an abortion have a problem with having an ultrasound, shur it's not a life isn't that what we have been told to believe?

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/anti-abortion-clinic-offers-free-ultrasounds-to-lure-less-well-off-w936qlj5x

    It's not a new story.
    I didn't hear biased reporting.
    They are following the lead of anti abortion groups in the US.


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    #5493
    Aska
    Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭Aska


    Court report on next from strokestown.

    Usual suspects ?


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    #5494
    Callan57
    Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    I've listened to various discussions on the Children's Hosp fiasco over the last few days and all I seem to be hearing is "we need a hospital & so we have to keep going no matter the cost" ........ this seems to me beyond belief! We are prepared to plough ahead even though we have absolutely no idea, not even a vague notion, what the final bill is going to come in at.
    Tell me again who was it referred to "skin in the game"? Once again the taxpayer is being taken for a ride ... over a cliff


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    #5495
    jay0109
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    There's people starting to come forward from the Medical profession to support the Minister with the line that the hospital needs to be built and lets just plough on ahead. It would be my opinion that the top Doc's are being prompted to do this by the Minister and his spin merchants.
    'Think of the children' type of debating level.

    Varadkar panicked with the negative press and came out yesterday saying the terms of the PWC report would be changed to allow for individuals to take blame. But this is Ireland...no one ever takes the blame and Varadkar is only buying time. The report will come out with a lot of generalisations, otherwise the legal profession would butt in as usual and start proceedings down the High Court to protect the 'good name' of the public servants involved.

    The taxpayer is getting screwed here and contractors are cleaning up. And thats how it will always be in Ireland


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    #5496
    dulpit
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    Just listening to Maria Steen talking about Catholic education. She is a troll of epic proportion, I'm actively getting angry at her just listening to the podcast...


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    #5497
    Mad_maxx
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    dulpit wrote: »
    Just listening to Maria Steen talking about Catholic education. She is a troll of epic proportion, I'm actively getting angry at her just listening to the podcast...

    Troll is a term used by the intellectually dull and feeble

    She spoke great sense about how there is no such thing as a neutral ethos education and that goes for the state too


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    #5498
    elperello
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    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Troll is a term used by the intellectually dull and feeble

    She spoke great sense about how there is no such thing as a neutral ethos education and that goes for the state too

    That's the beauty of radio.
    Brings all those different opinions and points of view into our daily lives.
    I disagree with her but I wouldn't call her a troll.


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    hotmail.com
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    Maria Steen home schools her children.


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    #5500
    Mad_maxx
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Maria Steen home schools her children.

    More people will chose the same going forward, they are becoming left wing madrasas


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    #5501
    serfboard
    Registered Users Posts: 4,679 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    More people will chose the same going forward, they are becoming left wing madrasas
    Indeed. I believe that they’re even teaching this “evolution” thing now ...


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    #5502
    Callan57
    Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    More people will chose the same going forward, they are becoming left wing madrasas


    God forbid that their little darlings might come in contact with a traveller, refugee or anyone of another religious or ethnic group. You have to keep them well within the fundamentalist Catholic tribe .. otherwise they might actually start to ask questions and you don't want that! :rolleyes:


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    #5503
    hotmail.com
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    Mad_maxx wrote:
    More people will chose the same going forward, they are becoming left wing madrasas


    Maria is defending schools that she doesn't even send her own kids to. They aren't Catholic enough for her!


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    Mad_maxx
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    Callan57 wrote: »
    God forbid that their little darlings might come in contact with a traveller, refugee or anyone of another religious or ethnic group. You have to keep them well within the fundamentalist Catholic tribe .. otherwise they might actually start to ask questions and you don't want that! :rolleyes:

    Was more thinking about the feminist politics which inspires the new coriculum, didn't mention other races so you can apologise for assuming incorrectly


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    #5505
    serfboard
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    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Was more thinking about the feminist politics which inspires the new coriculum
    What are you talking about?


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    #5506
    [Deleted User]
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    Ireland has had almost 200 years of primary-school teaching, which for most of that time has been dominated by men, and if anyone says the words "feminist curriculum" again, I will personally visit your home, vomit on your phone and then [MOD] Ban you [/MOD]

    Let's not even go there.


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    #5507
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users Posts: 19,176 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Ireland has had almost 200 years of primary-school teaching, which for most of that time has been dominated by men, and if anyone says the words "feminist curriculum" again, I will personally visit your home, vomit on your phone and then [MOD] Ban you [/MOD]

    Let's not even go there.

    Oooooooh.......better fish out the auld Nokia:eek:


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    golondrinas
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    Callan57 wrote: »
    I've listened to various discussions on the Children's Hosp fiasco over the last few days and all I seem to be hearing is "we need a hospital & so we have to keep going no matter the cost" ........ this seems to me beyond belief! We are prepared to plough ahead even though we have absolutely no idea, not even a vague notion, what the final bill is going to come in at.
    Tell me again who was it referred to "skin in the game"? Once again the taxpayer is being taken for a ride ... over a cliff

    Think of the children.

    F>>> the cost is the mantra.:eek::eek:


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    #5509
    dulpit
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    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Was more thinking about the feminist politics which inspires the new coriculum, didn't mention other races so you can apologise for assuming incorrectly
    1. Feminism = equality, not women > men
    2. Hopefully there'll be more of a focus on the English curriculum...
    3. :rolleyes:


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    #5510
    Mad_maxx
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    serfboard wrote: »
    What are you talking about?

    Talk of consent classes from an early age etc


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    #5511
    dulpit
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    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Talk of consent classes from an early age etc

    How are classes to do with consent possibly a bad thing? The earlier they are ingrained in children that they need consent to do anything to somebody else the better. For small children it will be simple things like you can't touch somebody/push somebody/etc without their approval, it's obviously not going to be a class with 7 or 8 year olds being told about date rape/etc.


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    #5512
    Callan57
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    dulpit wrote: »
    How are classes to do with consent possibly a bad thing? The earlier they are ingrained in children that they need consent to do anything to somebody else the better. For small children it will be simple things like you can't touch somebody/push somebody/etc without their approval, it's obviously not going to be a class with 7 or 8 year olds being told about date rape/etc.


    A rational person would think that but this is the Iona fundamentalists we have here. :rolleyes:


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    #5513
    Mad_maxx
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    dulpit wrote: »
    How are classes to do with consent possibly a bad thing? The earlier they are ingrained in children that they need consent to do anything to somebody else the better. For small children it will be simple things like you can't touch somebody/push somebody/etc without their approval, it's obviously not going to be a class with 7 or 8 year olds being told about date rape/etc.

    You might be fine with your son being taught to hate himself from he is the age of five but I'm not


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    #5514
    Mad_maxx
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    Callan57 wrote: »
    A rational person would think that but this is the Iona fundamentalists we have here. :rolleyes:

    Yes, anyone who doesn't subscribe to the feminist Bible is a fundie


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    #5515
    dulpit
    Registered Users Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    You might be fine with your son being taught to hate himself from he is the age of five but I'm not

    How is a consent class a lesson in boys hating themselves? :confused:


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    serfboard
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    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Talk of consent classes from an early age etc
    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    You might be fine with your son being taught to hate himself from he is the age of five but I'm not
    Where is the evidence that consent classes are going to be taught to five year olds in Irish schools?


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    #5517
    Mad_maxx
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    serfboard wrote: »
    Where is the evidence that consent classes are going to be taught to five year olds in Irish schools?

    Academic from nuig was on radio two weeks ago saying it needs to begin being taught prior to primary school


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    #5518
    Mad_maxx
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    dulpit wrote: »
    How is a consent class a lesson in boys hating themselves? :confused:

    It's about creating a narative that unless boys are taught not to assault females, they will

    It pathologises maleness and effectively makes it a disorder in need of serious intervention

    Hence all the "toxic masculinity" b0ll0cks.

    Poisonous stuff


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    #5519
    dulpit
    Registered Users Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    It's about creating a narative that unless boys are taught not to assault females, they will

    It pathologises maleness and effectively makes it a disorder in need of serious intervention

    Hence all the "toxic masculinity" b0ll0cks.

    Poisonous stuff

    :rolleyes:


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    #5520
    Mad_maxx
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    dulpit wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    Some of us will send our sons to private schools, I love my son too much to have some poisonous feminist ideology scar him


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    #5521
    dulpit
    Registered Users Posts: 10,482 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Some of us will send our sons to private schools, I love my son too much to have some poisonous feminist ideology scar him

    I find it odd that you're using a rainbow avatar and spouting nonsense like this, but okay...

    On topic: did anyone hear the segment about Whatsapp and security? Some TD was saying Whatsapp should allow governments/etc the ability to curb what is being sent on it, but couldn't see the inherent risks this would introduce re. security. The lad from the civil liberties crowd sounded very fed up trying to explain it..


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