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Car bomb has exploded in Derry City Centre

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  • #212
    [Deleted User]
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    There is no compulsion to invade other countries, bomb from 10,000 to control areas you wish to plunder either, but many in the world do it all the time.

    If you create the conditions then violence is inevitable. And Britain has created the conditions for violence here for centuries and perpetrated violence as well.

    You this post is self serving sanctimonious rubbish tbh.

    fixed that for you.


  • #213
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,515 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Aegir wrote: »

    there are plenty of people on here who are cho,ping at the bitfor the trouble to kick off again, because they can tenuously blame da Brits for it.

    Of course, we could never expect you to blame those who wish to re-partition Ireland Aegir. That wouldn't be cricket, would it?


  • #214
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Aegir wrote: »
    unfortunately for the people of the north, there are plenty of idiots in the south, tucked safely behind their keyboards, who are busy willing on and making excuses for a few impressionable young idiots who think it is great fun to set off car bombs.

    there are plenty of people on here who are cho,ping at the bitfor the trouble to kick off again, because they can tenuously blame da Brits for it.

    It's sad really, expecially when half of them weren't even a stirring in their fathers y fronts when some of the owrst of the violence was taking place.

    Can you point out one solitary post praising the car bombing?
    If someone were to explain why someone might rob a bank, would that make them a supporter of robbing banks?
    I don't see anyone praising this on here.


  • #215
    maccored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,809 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Orders come from high up, defend ANYTHING "republican" no matter what.

    Same posters saying the same things over and over for years, blame anyone but the brave boys.

    "Good republicans" all :rolleyes:

    where do you get that twaddle from? Is there a book or something?


  • #216
    maccored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,809 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Folkstonian wrote: »
    No I think you are wrong.

    A hard border, whilst certainly undesirable socially and economically, does not ‘inevitably’ lead to violence.

    Nobody is compelled to construct explosives, put them in vehicles, and detonate them in busy public areas.

    These are all simply decisions made by the worst examples of humanity.

    I do feel though, with the media and in some cases politicians, warning of an ‘inevitable return to violence’ with a hard border, this kind of person is made to feel that there is an expectation, and therefore a kind of rationalisation, for such reckless and obscene criminal acts.

    This is just not the case at all.

    yourself, timberrrr, wheres me jumper etc ... dont be worrying about it. its either all hype or it'll happen because of the media - whatever floats your boat. You'll be safe down here anyway so who cares, eh? :rolleyes:


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  • #217
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    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Can you point out one solitary post praising the car bombing?
    If someone were to explain why someone might rob a bank, would that make them a supporter of robbing banks?
    I don't see anyone praising this on here.

    Not praising, making excuses for and justifying it though. Plenty of it.


  • #218
    maccored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,809 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Aegir wrote: »
    Not praising, making excuses for and justifying it though. Plenty of it.

    i think you are confusing 'making excuses for and justifying it' with realism. I havent read any post 'making excuses for and justifying it'.


  • #219
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,515 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Aegir wrote: »
    Not praising, making excuses for and justifying it though. Plenty of it.

    Do you try to understand why things happen or just take the defence of the realm angle EVERY single time it gets criticised? Same posters appear everytime the British get criticised on here.

    Facts are, there are posters who said this would happen and it has.


  • #220
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    No they're not compelled but what's happening again is the UK is completely disregarding the peace process because British nationalism. The Good Friday agreement is being put in danger and a psychotic loyalist party is in bed with the Tory party. This is all bound to make tensions rise considerably. Violence isn't compelled but it's to be expected if the trends we're seeing now continue.

    I could go into a loyalist estate and hate British people. Only the biggest knuckle draggers would attack me but that doesn't mean I didn't act in a way to provoke the violence.

    Sure violence is a choice but endangering a peace process also unsurprisingly can be held responsible for the loss of peace.

    The biggest threat to peace on this island is Irish Republicans and the people giving them excuses.

    These are most likely kids, brought up in a diet of Irish nationalism and jingoism.

    The kids that were raised singing songs about the glorious RA, that played at the GAA grounds named after a “volunteer” and went along to a memorial service for someone who was killed planting a bomb.

    Every person who comes out with statements like yours is just as guilty of giving them an excuse to try and kick it all off again as the politicians are who would build a hard border.


  • #221
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Do you try to understand why things happen r just take the defence of the realm angle EVERY single time it gets criticised? Same posters appear evrytime the British get criticised on here.

    Facts are, there are posters who said this would happen and it has.

    I understand it Fran, I’m just not prepared to make excuses for them.


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  • #222
    maccored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,809 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Aegir wrote: »
    The biggest threat to peace on this island is Irish Republicans and the people giving them excuses.

    These are most likely kids, brought up in a diet of Irish nationalism and jingoism.

    The kids that were raised singing songs about the glorious RA, that played at the GAA grounds named after a “volunteer” and went along to a memorial service for someone who was killed planting a bomb.

    Every person who comes out with statements like yours is just as guilty of giving them an excuse to try and kick it all off again as the politicians are who would build a hard border.

    How could a post on boards have the same affect as a hard border? that really makes no sense whatsoever


  • #223
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,515 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Aegir wrote: »
    The biggest threat to peace on this island is Irish Republicans and the people giving them excuses.

    These are most likely kids, brought up in a diet of Irish nationalism and jingoism.

    The kids that were raised singing songs about the glorious RA, that played at the GAA grounds named after a “volunteer” and went along to a memorial service for someone who was killed planting a bomb.

    Every person who comes out with statements like yours is just as guilty of giving them an excuse to try and kick it all off again as the politicians are who would build a hard border.

    The Sammy Wilson Guide To The Troubles. You'll be telling us there was never a hard border next ala Arlene.


  • #224
    DrPhilG
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    Lorry abandoned outside St Mary's school, being treated as a bomb threat.


  • #225
    maccored
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    i was going to type something but ive decided I cant be arsed. All i've learned from this thread is that some people still havent a clue and only care about themselves


  • #226
    RobMc59
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    The Sammy Wilson Guide To The Troubles. You'll be telling us there was never a hard border next ala Arlene.

    Just as predicted,the DUP love it-playing right into there hands!it could almost be a DUP plot to get their own way!


  • #227
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,515 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    Just as predicted,the DUP love it-playing right into there hands!it could almost be a DUP plot to get their own way!

    Do you believe Aegir, Sammy and Arlene on this? :) Heaven help anyone who has that grasp of our history.

    The DUP when they eventually have to give up their sickening deal with the Tories will be the most isolated party on these islands.


  • #228
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    maccored wrote: »
    How could a post on boards have the same affect as a hard border? that really makes no sense whatsoever

    what hard border?

    How would you class this post, by the way? (different thread, I know)

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=109140652&postcount=25


  • #229
    RobMc59
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Do you believe Aegir, Sammy and Arlene on this? :) Heaven help anyone who has that grasp of our history.

    The DUP when they eventually have to give up their sickening deal with the Tories will be the most isolated party on these islands.

    Agreed-it`s sickening to see them fawning over each other in Westminster-it`s just this escalation will probably result in a tit for tat mentality and everyone loses out.


  • #230
    maccored
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    Aegir wrote: »
    what hard border?

    How would you class this post, by the way? (different thread, I know)

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=109140652&postcount=25

    What hard border? The one that looks like its on its way that no-one wants. Thats whats going to cause the unrest - not a post on boards.

    You link is to a pic of something that exists ... hows that backing up your claim that people in this thread are justifying/glorifying/whatever yer having the carbomb?


  • #231
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,405 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Attempted hijacking of a bus in Moss Park.

    That's 3 hijackings at least, plus a bomb scare outside a school.

    When does this end?


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  • #232
    Wheres Me Jumper?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Wheres Me Jumper?


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Do you try to understand why things happen or just take the defence of the realm angle EVERY single time it gets criticised? Same posters appear everytime the British get criticised on here.

    Facts are, there are posters who said this would happen and it has.

    nothing has happened!

    just a few suggestible cretins, who show criminal disregard for public safety. i'd put them in the same category as footie-hooligans & joy-riders, unlike you who seem to look up to them as the 2nd coming of Paddy Pearse.


  • #233
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Amazing how many posters on this thread previously said that a united Ireland would lead to loyalist violence. I guess they're excusing violence too?


  • #234
    indioblack
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    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Can you point out one solitary post praising the car bombing?
    If someone were to explain why someone might rob a bank, would that make them a supporter of robbing banks?
    I don't see anyone praising this on here.
    You can explain why someone might rob a bank - that would be the practical method. If you then try to understand why they might do this - the motivation behind it, and if you don't disagree with the motivation, it could be argued that you're not deploring this action.
    If these actions are a response to Brexit, then they are disproportionate and potentially dangerous and counter-productive.


  • #235
    Wheres Me Jumper?
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    Sureal wrote: »
    I don't see anyone glamourising them. It's just a fact that Irish people have rebelled against British rule for centuries. It grows when people feel under threat. Why do you think now would be any different? It will always be this way. "Ireland unfree shall never be at peace", I know it's often quoted but I think Pearse has and will be proved correct.

    not glamourising these criminals, yet he goes on to compare them with P. Pearse.

    is there such a term as "ironic stupidity"? dear God, is there any point...


  • #236
    Lackey
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    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Lorry abandoned outside St Mary's school, being treated as a bomb threat.

    Am I right in saying that’s a catholic school ?
    Are we looking at tit for tat?
    Either way back to this sh!te again ....it’s not good.


  • #237
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,158 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Lackey wrote: »
    Am I right in saying that’s a catholic school ?
    Are we looking at tit for tat?
    Either way back to this sh!te again ....it’s not good.

    Why would,it be tit for tat it’s the same dole louts who have falling for some old tails. Sure one of the guys arrested today is 50. God sake that man need to wise up

    ******



  • #238
    DrPhilG
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    Bomb disposal now apparently in Drumahoe on the Waterside.


  • #239
    NIMAN
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    The police and security people probably know who most of these guys are, that's why a handful were scooped for questioning fairly quickly.

    Let's hope they can find something on them to keep them inside for a while.


  • #240
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,608 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Bomb disposal now apparently in Drumahoe on the Waterside.

    Where are you getting your information Dr? I'm not seeing much on the PSNI feed.


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  • #241
    Sureal
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    Aegir wrote: »
    The biggest threat to peace on this island is Irish Republicans and the people giving them excuses.

    These are most likely kids, brought up in a diet of Irish nationalism and jingoism.

    The kids that were raised singing songs about the glorious RA, that played at the GAA grounds named after a “volunteer” and went along to a memorial service for someone who was killed planting a bomb.

    Every person who comes out with statements like yours is just as guilty of giving them an excuse to try and kick it all off again as the politicians are who would build a hard border.

    Am, do you know that it was loyalists who began the war that is referred to as the troubles?


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